She slept on the floor for this?
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link
this is terrible product management
― akm, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link
Oh good, I was worried a whole day would go by without a hilariously stupid development.
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link
Soothes the dumbest blue checks who think it is a special privilege, keeps the door open for the grifters because their victims will never go looking for the “official” tag.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link
BRB, claiming @GeirHongro
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 00:53 (one year ago) link
I actually have a new prediction: Elon musk is going to create a second kind of blue check that will be given to those who already have them. Perhaps it’s not a blue check - or maybe the $8/month isn’t for a blue check. Either way, it’s going to be very funny— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) November 1, 2022
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link
got him lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link
Good piece, about right imo.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/11/08/1062886/heres-how-a-twitter-engineer-says-it-will-break-in-the-coming-weeks/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, November 8, 2022 3:42 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
it should have occurred to me that if they actually fired engineers based on code commits or whatever, then they fired all the people who keep the site running
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 01:43 (one year ago) link
Note I am skeptical the site will break in the coming weeks, more likely the product and advertiser situation fails to stabilise and that does medium term damage. But it would be extremely funny if the product breaks and that article makes a good case that it might happen.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 02:31 (one year ago) link
lmao @ sending this lady out to announce the plan, I guess Elon didn't wanna admit he capitulated
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 03:03 (one year ago) link
is there anything we can do to help it break
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 06:06 (one year ago) link
tweet @ Elon that crypto lowers sperm count, he'll black out and go on a banning spree
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 06:29 (one year ago) link
Official
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link
look this is undoubtedly a better idea than just letting everyone be "verified" for $8 but I bet you Elon personally is gonna make a lot of decisions regarding who gets to keep "verified" status
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link
thing is they just should let anyone who wants to get verified but theyre unwilling or unable to actually do the verification, and it should be free, or they could even charge a one time processing fee sure why not, but fake verification as a revenue stream is just wrong and shortsighted, as many have pointed out twitter itself greatly benefits from having reliable identities on there
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link
lmfao
Update: It's now gone https://t.co/5C0t7txi14— Marques Brownlee (@MKBHD) November 9, 2022
I just killed it— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 9, 2022
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link
things just went from "well, this could have been done better" to "we like the shitshow option better for now"
― mh, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link
Poor Esther slept on the floor for this
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link
$8chan
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link
twitter itself greatly benefits from having reliable identities on there
on the whole I'd say the general anonymity of posters on the internet is more of a bane than a boon. it promotes recklessness through lack of accountability. but it is now deeply embedded in all our expectations of how the internet works and any imposition of rules requiring use of your true identity would cause riots. people like to indulge their own recklessness, even if they deplore it in others.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link
good postmight kinda qualify for the post / username thread too
― nxd, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link
No problem with people not using their real names online (or offline, really). A pseudonymous identity is fine as long as it’s fairly stable and doesn’t involve impersonation.
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link
Facebook has people posting blood and soil fascism attached to their real names, photos and places of employment.
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link
people posting blood and soil fascism attached to their real names, photos and places of employment
it's not like anyone willing to do that under their true name will ever shrink from owning their fascism under any circumstances. still seems marginally preferable to their doing it pseudonymously.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link
Googling around reveals that this may have been being pushed out for a few months now, but I opened the app earlier this morning and it popped up asking to connect to other devices on my local network. Uh, no thanks. When I saw it I assumed the worst of Elon, but I guess this was being rolled out before he came into the picture as part of the newer ios requirements for asking permission. Something to do with video casting, but skeptical af as to why Twitter would need that.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link
The official label is still going out as part of the @TwitterBlue launch -- we are just focusing on government and commercial entities to begin with. What you saw him mention was the fact that we're not focusing on giving individuals the "Official" label right now.— Esther Crawford ✨ (@esthercrawford) November 9, 2022
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link
im personally all for internet anonymity but for twitter its good for them if official sources are official, as far as randos prob doesnt make much difference
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link
but if randos want it let them have it why not thats called customer service, having it be a profit center obvs corrupts the whole idea tho
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link
the labels shd be "nob" for blue ticks and "mob" for the rest of us, its in the constitution in fancy C18 language (nobility vs mobility)
― mark s, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link
Yes Reddit has proven than even “moderated” anonymity is a failure. $8chan roffle
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link
idk anonymity is also extremely important for marginalized people (especially trans people) plus lots and lots of people who do not live in the USA. I've also heard a few nightmare anecdotes about getting verified by FB requiring you to upload passports and the like
― rob, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link
yeah there are good legit reasons to be anon like safety for vulnerable people, and good non legit reasons like its nice and its internet, i dont think reddit really proves anything outside reddit sucks and maybe huge platforms suck (something proven by all huge platforms including and maybe especially facebook which requires real names)
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link
Outside of Facebook I don’t think I’ve ever used a gendered username anywhere, and there’s a reason for that.
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link
which is not to say that huge platforms dont have nice qualities too but lets be real how many serious genocide attempts have been promoted via facebook at this point
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link
xpYes, excellent point. See also ethnicity, religion, and caste for last names.
gyac and lagoon both otm that FB puts the lie to non-anonymity being preventative of much
― rob, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link
reddit seems to be moderately successful?
on the other hand I've heard rumblings that most of their new traffic is all porn
― mh, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link
should also be noted that to some extent were all vulnerable to bad things happening re our names being tied to our posts whats the chance say the usa goes full fash in the next five years its not zero even tho im a cis white straight american male info worker doesnt mean i really want public posts next to my real name saying “ it is good too burn police stations lol”, thats a dramatic example but you could get fired lose yr health care etc over some fb bs too
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, November 9, 2022 12:51 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I think Twitter anonymity is more "u know Miles Prower from Sonic the Hedgehog eats ass" type stuff
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link
lmao it's happening already
Josh McDaniels is out as head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, sources tell ESPN. pic.twitter.com/iS58wVVThK— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefterN0T) November 9, 2022
¡Nueva York, no me voy a ningún lado! ¡Estoy feliz de anunciar que renuncié con los yankees por 3 años más! #RepBX ________________________________________New York, I’m not going anywhere! I’m happy to announce i’ve re-signed with the Yankees for 3 more years! #RepBx pic.twitter.com/jbgELEppHe— Aroldis Chapman (@AroIdisChapman) November 9, 2022
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link
Weird use of "renunciar" in that tweet.
Did he mean "me renuí"? Still doesn't sound right but closer.
I think he needs a new Spanish tweeter.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link
hah I zeroed in on that too, first clue it was fake
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link
*me reuní
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link
absolute fucking pandemonium. this is the end of this website pic.twitter.com/RhAK7VOEst— adrian (@crawf34) November 9, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link
The goal of Twitter DMs is to superset Signal— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 9, 2022
― after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link
love to superset signal
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link
this is a good point. twitter's product development is slow in part because if they are required to follow an extremely pedantic process agreed with the FTC in order to settle with them. i'm thinking this is not what musk is doing.
By the way, is there anyone left at Twitter who remembers that the company is still under a pretty stringent FTC consent decree that has, you know, some requirements about launching new products & services and having a written plan about their security? https://t.co/ZjytSLUq1W pic.twitter.com/Wc1iJKeEEZ— Mike Masnick (@mmasnick) November 9, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link
unless the FTC has any actual teeth to enforce that decree, i don't think musk cares much about it - see his own agreement with the SEC to have an outside advisor pre-approve all tweets, which is also not what musk is doing
― 龜, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link
no i'm sure he doesn't, but the FTC does have enforcement capabilities.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link
free advertising
https://i.imgur.com/iLIrKLf.png
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link
this might actually make twitter better now that i think about it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link