lemme ask you guys: is there really nothing to this guy? is it that everything the two companies he founded had accomplished has been in fact the work of underlings that he took credit for and he's just another rich guy whose bluster obscures his stupidity? Or is it that obeisance he has received from mainstream culture, combined with the brain rot that twitter has self-evidently rendered upon him, has slowly and steadily destroyed his ability to focus? It is really really annoying that NYT business section refers to him as the world's riches man at least once in every piece, as if any reader whatsoever at this point doesn't know who he is… the way they use that phrase almost seems like they're about to come every time it's employed…
― veronica moser, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I’d really appreciate it if some clown who has no idea what he’s talking about kicked in the door of my business, threw a wrench into the machinery, and then publicly shat on the work I’ve been doing on it for 6 years. What an asshole.
I quit a job several years ago when the CEO forced a CTO on us who did exactly this. It was unbearable. He fired people out from under me, and that was the final straw. He then went on to fire 80% of the engineering team without replacing them, then quit. Stellar six month tenure. It took the company three years to recover.
― akm, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link
He didn't found Tesla
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 14 November 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link
Well he's definitely not a good engineer, and 95% of his ideas are fucking idiotic, and that dates back to the PayPal days. I too am curious what exactly this guy has managed to accomplish that shows him as more than just a loud & incredibly lucky rich guy. I'm not saying this as a hater, though I am a hater. He has such a bad track record when it comes to promising stuff and this stuff has real consequences; see all those poor saps who paid for full self driving 5 years ago. He's got the Trumpy skills - good at drawing attention, throws huge tantrums that make national news, manages to drive an army of simps because he's just as insecure and petty as they are. Everyone seems to be saying "if I had that kind of money I'd just fuck off forever"...well, if he was capable of doing that, he wouldn't be the lightning rod that's attracting everyone's attention right now.
― frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link
He's benefitted a lot from being in the right place at the right time, and also at least projecting the illusion that he is one step ahead of everyone else, a visionary, thus duping people into deferring to his presumed genius. It reminds me of the early '80s, when all these virtuoso keyboard players, like Herbie Hancock or Greg Phillinganes or Jann Hammer or Hans Zimmer or Harold Faltermeyer, started popping up everywhere, playing this rinky-dink synth stuff way below their pay grade, I assume because no one else even knew how to turn the things on so just threw money at them. Like, Foreigner's "Waiting for a Girl Like You" features Thomas Dolby on it, as if no one else could come up with such rudimentary little synth wiggles. Or "Axel F" or hell, "Rockit." Herbie Hancock actually *is* a musical genius, and that song is fun, but it's not exactly a showcase of his abilities.
Anyway, the people that give Musk long-leash support are like the labels throwing money at some '80s synth guy.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link
that was not a direction i expected on this thread
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 November 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link
i think hes good at business, in that particular move fast a break things way, he didnt found tesla but he was with them early and for sure had a vision for the company that has panned out, tho tbf the core of that vision was the work of the actual founders which is make a cool high performance electric car, until then they had been lil nerdy efficiency vehicles, doing a car startup was considered impossible at the time and succeeding at it was no mean feat, he did a lot of shady scammy stuff along the way for sure and tbf a more honest operator mightve failed, there still might be some very shady stuff going on at telsa who know their success could illusory
he was also very good at doing the media he really understood how to tell a story that would rev them up so to speak haha and also really understood the value in that, he put a lot of work into building his image and it paid off hugely, i doubt telsa wouldve made it without millions of articles calling him tony stark
which! makes this whole twitter situation and just his weirdo persona for the last few years so mystifying, he threw all that hard won good will away, maybe he got over confident or just tired of the whole thing, idk hes def a bit unstable its part of the mix for sure
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link
doing a car startup was considered impossible at the time and succeeding at it was no mean feat, he did a lot of shady scammy stuff along the way for sure and tbf a more honest operator mightve failed, there still might be some very shady stuff going on at telsa who know their success could illusory
it seems to be widely accepted in certain circles that there is, so again it's the whole Trump thing, he's willing to break the law and commit fraud to make it look like everything is constantly going up uP UP. I mean Trump was notoriously one of the worst businessmen in the history of America and he wound up becoming President, so I guess being a scumbag pays off. I mean you can't really talk about Elon's business success without mentioning the billions of dollars the US government gave him, much of which seems to have gone right into his own pocket
― frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link
yeah american business is incredibly corrupt, def some parallels with trump, except that musk was actually successful at business, trump did get to be president tho which is pretty nice too
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link
and yeah elon has done well to position himself in front of the government subsidies spigot
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link
free money baby who doesnt like free money
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link
shit like this should really be a jail type situation
In 2015 I decided on a whim to check out Tesla's battery swap station that was earning the company 9 figures in California ZEV credits, and found it wasn't real. Instead Tesla was using diesel generators to charge cars. Here's how this changed my life 🧵— E.W. Niedermeyer (@Tweetermeyer) May 20, 2022
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link
I mean
Part of today will be turning off the “microservices” bloatware. Less than 20% are actually needed for Twitter to work!— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 14, 2022
very much the "nearly all government spending is wasteful, we can easily do away with 90% of it" mentality that idiots like Ted Cruz have
― frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link
they should 100% go back to rails, break out the fail whale, lets do this
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link
lol excited for him to just turn off services at random until the site breaks
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link
my friend who is a fast cars and electric engines nerd -- like she can literally talk abt types of battery for hours at a stretch -- says she will never climb into a tesla and that they are ludicrously and unimagineably dangerous. she DETESTS musk since long before all this
stripping out the resilience then outsourcing the risk -- i mean the risk at twitter is that i have to look elsewhere for my "cats with jobs" needs but he is running it the exact same way
― mark s, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link
someone should rig him up a board with a bunch of switches he can throw xp
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link
NEW: Twitter has lockdown it’s code base, freezing production changes to Twitter systems until further notice. Exceptions made if Elon explicitly says so, according to an internal email. 1/— Zoë Schiffer (@ZoeSchiffer) November 14, 2022
lmao it might not last the end of the day
― frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link
also idk if it's been mentioned itt but the site nearly broke during every World Cup goal 4 years ago and the 2022 one starts next week so good luck Twitter
― frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link
this is it its happening
https://static1.colliderimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Untitled(1).jpg
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link
what if twitter and crypto fail on the same day does that mean none of it counts, we all just wake up from a dream
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/Bolon_Yokte%27_K%27uh.jpg
― mark s, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link
i feel bad for twitter workers but this is tremendous content
he absolutely had some of his tesla sycophants have some very brief chats with people about stuff they barely understand, who then explained it to him and now he's micro-managing the infra pic.twitter.com/IlDrkPdBvn— wint32 (@mountain_ghosts) November 14, 2022
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link
If I worked there I would be so mad if I were one of the ones that didn’t get laid off
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link
btw no one uses the term rpc right, hes just trying to say request
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link
Yeah he means requests probably
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link
and the reason he thinks theres a thousand requests for a page load is because he doesnt understand what graphql is doing
i just looked up rpc and based on ten seconds of scanning it seems like its a situation where you make a request that could be fulfilled locally or remotely, which would describe how graphql works
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link
or he does understand how it works he just decided he doesnt like the batching
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link
and hes trying make the situation sound much worse than it is to give him an excuse to break twitter, idk lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link
i mean some of the requests are rpcs as an implementation detail. no one talks like that though.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link
someone told him the word and he loved it
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link
someone told him it was more hardcore than REST
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
tbf rest is not very hardcore, just taking it easy, thats the life
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 November 2022 bookmarkflaglink
What
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 November 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link
I love his energy
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 14 November 2022 16:31 (one year ago) link
He’s fired— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 14, 2022
― 龜, Monday, 14 November 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link
what a pos
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link
pic.twitter.com/6GykHxlH5r— Josh Mankiewicz (@JoshMankiewicz) November 13, 2022
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link
tweeting a screenshot of a tumblr post…nature is healing
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link
xpost - I 100% buy that Elon had no intention of firing that guy until he saw the tweets suggesting he do so
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link
lol otm
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link
oof the replies to his tweets are a new level of dismal
― rob, Monday, 14 November 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link
Found another one, Elon! https://t.co/0HjqXZpyr1— ✨Chicago✨ (@chicago_glenn) November 14, 2022
need a new snigglet for combo of snitch and stan
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link
"team freedom of speech"
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link
He can name her to his new Katch All Rogue Employees Now Squad.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
lol
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link
however degraded musk is people rooting for firings in his comments are somehow lower
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link
note the meme signature
@elonmusk pic.twitter.com/qPSBr3PK8j— Tesla DMV -Washington DC, Maryland, Virginia (@FSDbetaa) November 14, 2022
― lag∞n, Monday, 14 November 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link
oof
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link
come on, evil young children. turning point usa is where you want to work, not this flameout twitter stuff
― Karl Malone, Monday, 14 November 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link