The Death of the Record Collection

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do flacs fit in regular sized CD binders

tylerw, Thursday, 30 July 2009 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I have that Cage piece, but at a low bitrate, anyone have a FLAC?

m0stlyClean, Thursday, 30 July 2009 04:44 (fourteen years ago) link

With 2 Freaking Terabytes, you could even fit in the semi-relevant ones.....

m0stlyClean, Thursday, 30 July 2009 04:45 (fourteen years ago) link

no fooling, every blues track from 1910-1939 = how many bytes?

m0stlyClean, Thursday, 30 July 2009 04:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I've only looked at the start of this thread, so maybe this point already made. Basically, I am struck by how one of my record collector friend heavily fetishises and collects vinyl and only vinyl. He is part of some retro muso scene where these people collect olde vinyl records and play them at discos. How quaint. Anyway, I reckon that maybe in general record collecting might well die off, but you will still get people who collect vinyl records, in the same way that other people collect stamps.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link

hey cracklebox, would you say that your 1000 cd uncollection is a fairly comprehensive overview of classical music?
like; most of the major works of the major composers?

because 800MB x 1000 CDs = 800 000MB = not even HALF of an SDXC card.
an SDXC card the size of your thumbnail.

that is some scifi madness there. you can play that card in your FLYING CAR.

....."look what i found between the sofa cushions, classical music! all of it."

2 f r e a k i n g t e r a b y t e s . . . . . .

m0stlyClean, Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

do flacs fit in regular sized CD binders

― tylerw, Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You might as well put up a big sign on your house that says "steal all the music in existence"!

Then we'd really be screwed...

Moodles, Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

800MB x 1000 CDs = 800 000MB = not even HALF of an SDXC card....
= uncompressed digital audio; not mp3s, not FLAC = gggaonbvap984tl!!

m0stlyClean, Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't want all music ever to take up no space; wtf do you keep on your shelves once yr books are on a Kindle and yr music's on a memory stick? Porcelain dogs? No fucking way.

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

You take down the shelves and put up some cool art.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

That's pretty much my plan, anyway!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I have cool art up too!

I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i keep my porcelain dogs in binders but shit is padlocked so don't even think about it kleptos

unban dictionary (blueski), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Expect a visit from ASPCA.

Moodles, Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

six years pass...

Is there a records collectors thread on ilm? Using this one now... Record collectors of ilm: how often do you consider selling all your records?

I've collected for abt seven-eight years and have enjoyed it, learned a lot from it, but feel a bit like maybe letting it go now. Not sure I wanna keep spending the money, and feel like a static collection is kinda like... death. Otoh I enjoy some of the memories connected to the records and am not comfortable letting go of those... Anyway, dunno what to do, will prob give it a year or so. But rn feel like spotify and a bit of piracy is maybe all I need.

niels, Thursday, 12 November 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

I barely buy records at all anymore - I just don't have the $$$ - and periodically I'll cull my collection but no way would I get rid of it at this point (25+ years on), I listen to it all the time

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 November 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link

Love records but too many cheeky £1 charmers that have been smoking behind the bikesheds for the last 10-15 years are now lording it up silly prices, those lads might just have to find themselves a new home

saer, Thursday, 12 November 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

Have sold off hundreds of records at local record markets, once a year past four years, it's been good, feel like I have a nice and trimmed collection.

When I started collecting I made it a point to not listen to mp3s, I know the two are not mutually exclusive but for some reason I wanted to try using only physical media. Which I've now done for quite a few years. Then last week I bought a chromecast audio and hooked it to my stereo with spotify connect - and now I feel like that's maybe the way I prefer playing music on my stereo. I'll probably have to give it at least a year before I know how I like it... But not entirely sure I enjoy the needle drop enough to not just spotify everything.

niels, Thursday, 12 November 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

I hate spotify so, not an issue!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 November 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

Hehe, too easyhttps://www.hifiklubben.dk/

niels, Thursday, 12 November 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

Lol did not mean to cp that link stupid ipad

niels, Thursday, 12 November 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

Record collectors of ilm: how often do you consider selling all your records?

15 years ago i moved from up north to down south.
at the time i decided to get rid of some of my unloved vinyl.
worst mistake ever.
yes, most of it i have been able to replace on cd, but there are certain things, that i still wake up in the middle of night while screaming 'WHY!' (eg. Drinking Gasoline 2*12 by Cabaret Voltaire, Seven Songs by 23 Skidoo).
i have never ever got rid of anything, vinyl or cd, since. despite the fact i now use a NAS drive/sonos.
i don't need the money or space anymore, so fuck it.
even if the archive is worthless i care not, i am like gollum and his ring, its precious, and that's the way it is.

mark e, Thursday, 12 November 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

I have sold records in the past and regretted it almost every time. Even when I got stupid money for it, I later wished I had it. If you desperately need the money for food or shelter, then do what you have to do. Otherwise, if you're like me, you'll regret getting rid of them.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 12 November 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

the fracturing of the streaming services market - and possibly its eventual collapse - should be reason enough for people not to liquidate their collections unless they absolutely have to or want to for some good reason...

skip, Thursday, 12 November 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

^^^

this idea that all music will be available from some online service is sorta silly

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

"in perpetuity" should've been in there somewhere

Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

another example : it took me 15 years to find a kind soul to help me replace my CHAKK album/extra ltd 12" groove given the album has never had a reissue.
bottom line : never ever ever get rid of vinyl/cds.
yeah yeah re space, yeah yeah re convenience, yeah yeah re old fucker.
but i would rather be wrong, very very wrong, as opposed to never being able to play my CHAKK album again.

mark e, Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link

Great inputs! I guess even if I stop playing them as much as I used to, they still look great and improve room acoustics. And I prob don't want to regret letting go of any of the rare/sentimental ones...

niels, Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

hear my cry niels.

even with your CA amp, (the diss in that hi-fi thread made my eyebrows rise a lot), your currently unloved music still has a future ..

mark e, Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:58 (eight years ago) link

getting rid of music you don't want any more - go for it. I just donated about 100 CDs that aren't valuable and I know I'll never listen to again in order to create some space. Dumping or not buying music you like just because it's available on Spotify doesn't make much sense though. And that last sentence describes pretty much everyone I know...

skip, Thursday, 12 November 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link

"I've collected for abt seven-eight years and have enjoyed it, learned a lot from it, but feel a bit like maybe letting it go now. Not sure I wanna keep spending the money"

as someone with a store, i'm kinda waiting for the avalanche of very heavy almost new "vinyl is back" collections to start coming through the door. i can't give you 30 dollars for that RSD release though. i know, i know, that's what you paid for it.

not speaking about niels specifically. just feel like eventually a lot of people will find spotify more soothing and less of a money drain.

scott seward, Thursday, 12 November 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

I do have that thought of selling it all sometimes, when i think about the ridiculousness of having all of these records. I guess it's not that many but I've been buying them since the late 80s and I keep thinking that I should just do everything digitally and get some cash for stuff that is now ridiculously overpriced. Then some Sunday morning I pull out something I hadn't heard in awhile and that feeling subsides.

I do purge stuff once a year with little-to-no regret, as I get lots of credit at a local store. I don't buy as much new stuff nowadays so I can make that credit last a long time and it feels like a self-sustaining hobby.

city worker, Thursday, 12 November 2015 22:58 (eight years ago) link

Yeah,I'm in purge mode as I can sell stuff I played loads but won't play again, and that pays for 'new' things.

(not always brand new, mostly old but unheard)

Mark G, Thursday, 12 November 2015 23:12 (eight years ago) link

Its on discogs, not priced cheap to shift if I sort-of want to keep it.

Mark G, Thursday, 12 November 2015 23:12 (eight years ago) link

dont do it Mark G !

you will regret it ..

even those birdland 7" ..

mark e, Friday, 13 November 2015 00:40 (eight years ago) link

it's hard to know

i've purged shit that i later regretted a ton, a few that i even re-purchased years later

plenty of others that i'm glad are gone and that felt like a burden to see on my shelf

marcos, Friday, 13 November 2015 03:10 (eight years ago) link

Same here macos. If I'm thinking of getting rid of something, I usually think about "How easy/hard would it be to reacquire this if I change my mind?"

Austin, Friday, 13 November 2015 03:42 (eight years ago) link

i sell 100s of my LPs a year and probably only regret two or three sales ever. it's nice not having stuff.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 13 November 2015 05:14 (eight years ago) link

If I ask myself how hard it would be to replace, I figure I shouldn't be selling it. But I'm resigned to having too much stuff.

nickn, Friday, 13 November 2015 05:37 (eight years ago) link

mark e, its funny there are a few things I sold that I should 'regret' but I don't really. Two spring to mind, the first orange juice and undertones, but they all still exist out there..

Mark G, Friday, 13 November 2015 07:01 (eight years ago) link

well we live in an age where if you really want to hear something, it is impossibly easy to find it again

with some important exceptions, of course, like if you collect 78 rpm records from central asia

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 13 November 2015 07:13 (eight years ago) link

Even then, eventually..

Mark G, Friday, 13 November 2015 07:22 (eight years ago) link

Nothing wrong with rotating records, doesnt have to be static

A lot of stuff is hard to get again though, especially with prices going through roof for many things

saer, Friday, 13 November 2015 07:25 (eight years ago) link

if you collect 78 rpm records from central asia that is indeed the sort of thing we are interested in and by & large sharity is over. i've been buying again cos i can't find OOP stuff to DL anywhere online
i think people got tired of sharity not cos of the fear of being busted (bin to the year 3000) but cos of the neverending slew of stuff which could /would need sharing maintaining a blogspot will elucidate its own pointlessness and the ephemerality of existence (partic when predicated on hey here's a cool ltd ed dictaphone cassette from 1984 featuring takehisa kosugi's mum doing the hoovering)

massaman gai, Friday, 13 November 2015 07:26 (eight years ago) link

well we live in an age where if you really want to hear something, it is impossibly easy to find it again

A tiny fraction of the last hundred years' recorded music can be found on the internet.

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Friday, 13 November 2015 07:27 (eight years ago) link

<i>ephemerality</i>

is a positive!

saer, Friday, 13 November 2015 07:30 (eight years ago) link

xpost yes, but finding a copy is quite easy.

Mark G, Friday, 13 November 2015 10:03 (eight years ago) link

just feel like eventually a lot of people will find spotify more soothing and less of a money drain.

or they owning a physical product but start realising that used CDs are cheap and plentiful and kinda wacky and retro and you can get lots of titles that you can't find easily on vinyl and they're a little more resilient than LPs and all that shit and the whole cycle starts all over again

gabba cadaver (NickB), Friday, 13 November 2015 10:10 (eight years ago) link

or they *like* owning

gabba cadaver (NickB), Friday, 13 November 2015 10:11 (eight years ago) link

scott: are you afraid of going out of business if vinyl revival loses momentum or is your store more based around lifetime collectors?

niels, Friday, 13 November 2015 11:09 (eight years ago) link


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