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wld think this is just the tip of the iceberg as far as collusion is concerned, seems like theres always tons of funds sloshing around between various big holders for unknown reasons

This is a useful reminder that some top crypto people -- executives, whales, investors -- are in small private group chats discussing other market players and coordinating activity. There's a club and they're in it. https://t.co/7thi054UUt

— Jacob Silverman (@SilvermanJacob) November 18, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link

not sure if this embed properly but he's in the replies:

Its a long story but we were scammed just like you guys, its ok --justice is coming

— Zhu Su 🔺 (@zhusu) November 13, 2022

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

that was in reply to this question: "If you smelt a rat, what convinced you to become one of the biggest traders on their exchange?"

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

The Papa John interview is lovely pic.twitter.com/bpDMDm9t9G

— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) November 26, 2019

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

lol, solid follow up Q at the end

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

what the fuck are you talking about
hehe im talking about something

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

"stay tuned" with that facial expression is peak tim heidecker

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

he looks soaked. Does he douse himself from head to toe in baby oil?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

anyway zhu su tweet is very spiderman pointing at spiderman

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 18 November 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

papa john's greasy sweat is the secret ingredient in papa john's pizza

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

interesting, gbtc is guess is some bitcoin derivative and its price has sharply decoupled from bitcoins

Based on GBTC's 43% discount to NAV, #Bitcoin is already trading well below $10K. I think this is the real price of Bitcoin, as when you sell $GBTC you get paid real cash. But when you sell #BTC you get paid #Tether. To get actual cash for Bitcoin you must accept a huge discount.

— Peter Schiff (@PeterSchiff) November 18, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

idk why you couldnt just cash out the tether tho, if thats not working seems like we would be hearing about it

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

omfg haaa

.@llegrarosenberg went deep into Caroline Ellison's alleged Tumblr. It wasn't just a Harry Potter fan blog. It was a RATIONALIST Harry Potter fan blog.https://t.co/OX3t2kTJbS pic.twitter.com/fOcKg8YHtb

— Ryan Broderick (@broderick) November 18, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link

lol of course

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 18 November 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

haaaa

Departing from J. K. Rowling's original books, Yudkowsky supposes that Harry's aunt Petunia Evans married an Oxford professor and homeschooled Harry in science and rational thinking.[6][8][9]

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

Same guy who created a panic over an imaginary vengeful superintelligence, by the way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk#Reactions

jmm, Friday, 18 November 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

lag00n found your alt

Peak crypto living.

No physical possessions but a trusty rug to sleep on (rugged 4 lyf), an @FTX_Official hoodie that doubles as a pillow, a laptop (w/ Rust compiler ofc) and mechanical keyboard (max WPM for CT shitposting).

Everything else in NFTs or earning yield on #Solana. pic.twitter.com/bcqgfEIDS6

— Tristan (@Tristan0x) November 17, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 November 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

hard to tell without touching the thing (could be printed or machine made) but to this persian that looks like a couple thousand dollars worth of persian rug. also if sleeping on that is rugged then my grandma in her end of life stage (rip) was also rugged

the late great, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

pretty sure thats in ikea rug fwiw, and not because i bought it and thats my home be serious i would have a blanket too

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

lmao the mechanical keyboard is such a nice touch

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

really? that's pretty legit looking for a fake! last i checked the detail on ikea rugs looked a lot less crisp, though tbf since i started owning a dachshund (2010) i've stopped owning rugs

the late great, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

a trusty rug for the rugpulls

jmm, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

yup there u go

https://i.imgur.com/89FqxJq.png

lag∞n, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

it's a pretty nice rug

ciderpress, Saturday, 19 November 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

rugs are the original nfts

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 November 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

(I posted this to ILE but was informed there was an FTX discussion already happening here...)

Crypto skeptic Molly White's (creator of "Web3 Is Going Just Great") writeups are excellent - here's part 3 of her FTX coverage: https://newsletter.mollywhite.net/p/the-ftx-collapse-the-latest-revelations

Some highlights from it:
* The spreadsheet included an entry for “Hidden, poorly internally labled (sic) ‘fiat@’ account: -8 billion”. Apparently SBF wishes for us to believe that he somehow just misplaced an account representing eight billion dollars in liabilities. SBF also included an attempt at remorse in the balance sheet (as one does): “There were many things I wish I could do differently than I did…”

(I'm reminded of the Robin Williams joke about putting $50,000 on your tax form for "snacks".)

* The clean-up guy (who oversaw Enron's bankruptcy) John J. Ray III said: "Never in my career have I seen such a complete failure of corporate controls and such a complete absence of trustworthy financial information as occurred here. From compromised systems integrity and faulty regulatory oversight abroad, to the concentration of control in the hands of a very small group of inexperienced, unsophisticated and potentially compromised individuals, this situation is unprecedented."

* The Debtors do not have an accounting department and outsource this function.

ernestp, Saturday, 19 November 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

Heads up: rotating a few FTX wallets today (mostly non-circulating); we do this periodically. Might be a few more coming, won’t have any effect.

— SBF (@SBF_FTX) September 28, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oFfScP0S_M

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 20 November 2022 00:45 (one year ago) link

lol

mh, Sunday, 20 November 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

lmao

, Sunday, 20 November 2022 12:13 (one year ago) link

ah well

Sequoia Capital Managing Partner speaking about FTX:

"[We did] careful due diligence...We’ve looked at it. There’s nothing much we could have done any differently...I can tell you that, for the next three to six months, we’re going to dream a little less"

[@CNBC] pic.twitter.com/6JxCJaFv0u

— The Transcript (@TheTranscript_) November 20, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 20 November 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

https://mobile.twitter.com/patio11 Has always struck me as a terrible bore who knows what he’s talking about. He seems pretty adamant that tether is about to go.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 20 November 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link

Give it to me baby

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 20 November 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link

lets goo

lag∞n, Sunday, 20 November 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

A person I have known for more than ten years, who I consider trustworthy, is convinced the cryptocurrency economy will shortly experience a systemic risk. I don’t know anything concrete, but if I were exposed, I would be concerned.

— Paul Graham (@paulg) November 20, 2022

Vitalik subtweeting Paul Graham calling him out for being a total loser is the closest I’ve been to being bullish crypto https://t.co/7N1iw8zXJH

— Bucco *Parody* Capital (@buccocapital) November 21, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 November 2022 02:21 (one year ago) link

lol the entire crypto industry is very publicly crashing and burning, paul grahams friend told him

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link

am I to understand that if Tether goes it's game over

frogbs, Monday, 21 November 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link

yeah

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link

http://view.pics-or-gtfo.com/20221118-1ac139e922fcc59d088de21c946d2d81.jpeg

Put simply, the crypto system as it currently exists is unsustainable. Absent clear and easily enforceable property rights, relying solely on private investors to monitor and discipline the behaviour of opaque intermediaries has never been safe and effective. There is no prospect for a technological solution to these age-old problems.

So, the big question is whether authorities ought to create a new regulatory and supervisory framework that protects property rights and enforces the principles of safety and soundness. Concerned about further losses from the collapse of crypto, many people are calling for new rules to protect consumers.

Ironically, however, attempts to create a separate structure for regulating and supervising crypto will just make the financial system less, not more, safe.

This is true for two reasons. First, it will encourage banks both to purchase crypto assets and to lend against them as collateral, making the banking system vulnerable to plunging market values. In contrast, even the ongoing collapse of crypto values and institutions has had virtually no impact on the wellbeing of the traditional financial markets and firms.

Second, new rules would lead to a migration of financial activity from traditional finance to the still less regulated, but newly sanctioned, crypto world. Both crypto and traditional finance are simply combinations of a database and computer code. It would be straightforward for a group of technicians to convert any set of conditional cash flows from one into the other. For example, imagine someone choosing to issue claims on their firm as a crypto token rather than as conventional equity to take advantage of looser rules for disclosure, accounting, custody, and the like.

If any new rules are needed, they are ones that limit exposure of traditional leveraged intermediaries to the crypto world.

Banks, dealers, insurers, and pension funds should not be allowed to purchase and hold crypto or accept it as collateral. For the most part, crypto today is just a multiplayer online video game (like World of Warcraft). If virtually all the transactions remain internal to the crypto world without links to the real economy, the process might as well be occurring on Mars, leaving traditional finance unaffected.

The overriding goal of policymakers should be to keep crypto systemically irrelevant. The best way to do this is let it implode under the pressure of its unsafe and unsound business practices. Meanwhile, authorities should constantly point to the record that crypto is rife with failures and fraud.

Rather than creating a new legal and regulatory framework that legitimises crypto, we should simply let it burn.

https://www.ft.com/content/ac058ede-80cb-4aa6-8394-941443eec7e3

Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 November 2022 10:26 (one year ago) link

reasonable point

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 11:58 (one year ago) link

Isn’t Tether obviously fraudulent?

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 21 November 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link

yes

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

Just curious why the shoe hasn't dropped there yet.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 21 November 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link

idk im sure not what it would take, all the big crypto players obvs really do not want it to happen

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link

I assume there is a lot propping it up right now. also I don't really understand the finer points of stablecoins but my understanding is they can run on pixie dust for a while

frogbs, Monday, 21 November 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

yeah theres tons of collusion various fund sloshing around and whatnot, maybe itll take the rest of the industry deteriorating to the point where they just cant keep the charade up anymore

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

yeah I wonder if this is nearing the end of a big musical chairs game

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 21 November 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

seems like it

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

heh

lmao, wtf is wrong with these people? https://t.co/U5uvh2MtMl pic.twitter.com/sZIoBO7Pjb

— Cas Piancey (@CasPiancey) November 21, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 21 November 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link

the grift is strong

mh, Monday, 21 November 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link


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