Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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liew is probably my favourite sports journalist, although I am also partial to jonathon wilson parodying himself.

oscar bravo, Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

i think my comprehension of fey may be slightly out of date itself. my only understanding was a feeling of elation/fairylike deception as a prelude to disaster and death. certainly not 'affected'. 'you're not going fey on me are you George?' (from TTSS). it meaning 'affected' is tedious: affected how?

Fizzles, Sunday, 27 November 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

What's TTSS?

the pinefox, Sunday, 27 November 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

"a feeling of elation/fairylike deception as a prelude to disaster and death"

That still doesn't seem to describe ENG 0-0 USA very well. Not much elation, at least for ENG.

the pinefox, Sunday, 27 November 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

no i agree. i’m with tom d. just think he misused. and apologies pf - tinker tailor soldier spy. it’s uttered by pompous civil servant Oliver Lacon, when George Smiley first starts putting his paranoic seeming theories forward.

Fizzles, Sunday, 27 November 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

etymonline does its best to insist that fey and fay are distinct words w/difft roots (the first germanic the second romance) and that the "fairylike" element derives from and appends only to the latter -- but evidently they've p much fused in sense these days, ftb now sounding identical

(were they pronounced differently in like the 14th century? i do not know)

my new theory is that lacon is also misusing the word, entirely bcz i dislike the character

mark s, Sunday, 27 November 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

i mix up fey and fay, and the combined word in my head has always had fairyland connotations in that sense of fairies as dangerous and not to be trusted and beguiling unto death

this display name blocked by FIFA (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 November 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

Lud-in-the-Mist to thread.

Fizzles, Sunday, 27 November 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

what does ftb mean?

I didn't really know that these were in fact two different words.

'Morgan Le Fay' (a masculine looking name for a woman character if I have remembered it correctly?) is perhaps many people's encounter with it - and suggests fairies and danger I think.

Interesting that John le Carré had the word in mind and thought he knew what he meant by it. le Carré was quite precise with words, I would say.

the pinefox, Sunday, 27 November 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

ftb means because

mark s, Sunday, 27 November 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

Why?

the pinefox, Sunday, 27 November 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

i don't know: it's old internet slang that popped out of my head and into the post without me catching and reworking it into grown-up english

mark s, Sunday, 27 November 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

it's short for "for the because"

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 27 November 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link

Have to hand it to Liew - here he is basically correct about a big, dreadful development, which I can discern even as the same old TV and radio consumer I've always been.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/28/world-cup-technology-fans-qatar-2022

the pinefox, Monday, 28 November 2022 13:10 (one year ago) link

Ronay, his profile photo increasingly looking like Dorian Gray's portrait, produces an odd article.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/28/gianni-infantino-fifa-world-cup-2022-qatar

He and others have attacked FIFA for years. Now he says that the World Cup is producing controversies, and what is needed is strong action from ... FIFA.

Doesn't really add up. I agree that Infantino has been less visible, but find that a good thing. Like many, I have enjoyed the soccer.

Fifa has bowed to Qatar’s will on the armband-of-love, even as Qatari officials wear their Palestinian rights symbols in the seats.

Do they? I haven't seen that at all, but if they do, they've gone up in my estimation. Doesn't sound like Ronay's keen on it though.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 11:02 (one year ago) link

Freeman celebrates her arrival at the Sunday Times. Her followers concur.

Hello, Sunday Times When did feminism become a dirty word?https://t.co/yJ4PHIbK4y https://t.co/11zgllgVwv

— Hadley Freeman (@HadleyFreeman) December 3, 2022

the pinefox, Monday, 5 December 2022 11:35 (one year ago) link

The journalist @HadleyFreeman has recently resigned from The Guardian. She joins @emmabarnett to talk about her claims of being “censored” from writing about gender identity, trans issues and antisemitism.

Listen here ⬇

— BBC Woman's Hour (@BBCWomansHour) December 5, 2022

the censorship tour starts here

devvvine, Monday, 5 December 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link

I wonder if Barnett challenges her on anything? I expect not. I will not listen to check.

the pinefox, Monday, 5 December 2022 13:24 (one year ago) link

I think Emma Barnett would be the last person in the world to challenge her on anything.

Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Monday, 5 December 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

didn't it turn out that the 'censorship' she keeps complaining about was just that the guardian's editors wouldn't accept her pitches for all sorts of deranged transphobic stories because they were way outside her brief (celebrity profiles/banal columns) or just too repetitive

ufo, Monday, 5 December 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link

i just listened to it. Barnett not terrible actually. but i think most listeners would be baffled. HF keeps saying that everyone’s very mean to her, and that management is “afraid” of the reaction if they published (anti-trans) “gender-critical” pieces. Barnett points out that the Guardian website carries a number of pieces by and interviews with exactly the people that HF says were “censored”. but in general they’re studiously avoiding why people get angry with HF. why people call her a bigot. you’d think that after former friends and allies all over tarnation have called you a bigot and dropped you like a hot potato the issue might be you and not them?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 December 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

HF dropped in questions about gender and Woody Allen in some of her interviews, which should've been cut. If anything she was given far too much freedom to do what she wanted.

I wonder whether she left or was pushed, and if it was the latter what did it.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 December 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link

think it's quite likely she was poached, given where she ended up

mark s, Monday, 5 December 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link

Did she jump or was she poached?

Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Monday, 5 December 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

Peter Preston’s son is exec editor of the Sunday Times and is married to Janice TERFer. She got a golden parachute but I bet she’s not on Caitlin Moran money.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Monday, 5 December 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

I AM BEING CENSORED, i yell on a popular national radio programme as i begin my new job as a columnist on one of the nation's top broadsheets

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 December 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

incredible that this shit still works

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 December 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/2022/dec/09/fading-tories-stealing-ideas-labour-keir-starmer

"The fading Tories are stealing ideas from Labour – a transition has already begun. Andy Beckett"

the pinefox, Friday, 9 December 2022 10:00 (one year ago) link

It's fun to peer into Wonderland sometimes

jus do jus (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 December 2022 10:02 (one year ago) link

"On probity in public life, private schools, poverty and wealth, whom the economy should prioritise, social values and the environment, Labour and the Tories remain miles apart."

I don't think this is true.

the pinefox, Friday, 9 December 2022 10:03 (one year ago) link

How can Labour make any claims about probity in public life given the corrupt, mendacious and factional way the party itself is run?

Surprising that someone as intelligent as Beckett could publish this.

the pinefox, Friday, 9 December 2022 10:05 (one year ago) link

Since 2015 the gap between Labour and the Tories – in style, ideology and policies – has often been larger than ever.

it was true 2015-19, but fuck knows what this stupid cunt is blathering on about now

calzino, Friday, 9 December 2022 10:30 (one year ago) link

I hope he isn't getting paid for writing that shite.

Gulf VAR Syndrome (Tom D.), Friday, 9 December 2022 10:44 (one year ago) link

you can't measure the vibes that bullshit graun hacks feel about the PLP, in the absence of any evidence that proves they are anything other than a bunch of dishonest tory cunts

calzino, Friday, 9 December 2022 10:52 (one year ago) link

Important to remember a lot of them honestly believe this bullshit

jus do jus (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 December 2022 11:32 (one year ago) link

The Guardian is running a headline about a 93 year old's 25 hour ambulance wait over the weekend right inside its ambulance strike coverage. Only the third paragraph mentions this happened before the strike started. pic.twitter.com/4bzq2VJGaI

— libcom.org (@libcomorg) December 21, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 12:07 (one year ago) link

Surely it's even more noteworthy if this was 'normal service'? And linked to why they're striking?

kinder, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

their IT network has been fucked by some ransomware. Couldn't happen to nicer people.

calzino, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

xp was going to say, besides the attack on the IT system, there’s been headlines all year about people having to wait hours for ambulances in dire circumstances

bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

xp oh wait did you mean the guardian not the nhs

bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

yeah the graun, the staff have been instructed to work from home and they are "confident" about getting tomorrow's copy ready on time.

calzino, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

I genuinely hope they all have a shit time of it!

calzino, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

xp lmao, Sonia Sodha crying and find replacing dates on one of her usual op-eds is it

bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

Well my expectations were already low

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 1 January 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link

Dark Side of the Moon LOL

Twa pehs an' an ingin ane an' aw (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 January 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link

do have to wonder how much he was paid to write that shit, didn't even have to drive up the M1 this time.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 1 January 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link

quiet desperation is what I feel when this dickhead is quoting DSOTM, not once but twice in one piece. It's all about brexit is it? Nothing to do with the austerity that enabled it and both main parties still being 100% committed to it. That's not a JH problem.

calzino, Sunday, 1 January 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link


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