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the 2017 album was Bucky, McVie, Mick and Xtine… but you can't call it Fleetwood Mac. Stevie has said a number of times that she doesn't want to record new music any more, because the massive budgeted studio method they emblemized can no longer provide her a return she considers sufficient, but the 2017 was evidently done in a cost efficient manner. But no, that could not be called a Fleetwood Mac record. Whereas Xtine left for 15 years but they could call it Fleetwood Mac, and when Bucky leaves, ditto. Perhaps Irving Azoff has concluded there can be no Fleetwood Mac without Stevie, but it's just as likely that's what she thinks.

Xtine kinda stuck with organ and piano, huh? does anyone know if she fucked with synths on any of the records? Seems to me that the intros for "Little Lies" and "everywhere" would be Lindsey or Dashut or someone like that? Or am I wrong?

veronica moser, Thursday, 1 December 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

She's definitely playing the handful of synth parts on the 1975 album and Rumours, probably played less of the programmed stuff by the time of Tango.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 1 December 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

My favorite video of Christine McVie and Stevie Nicks blasted all the way to mars pic.twitter.com/dpFloDpemo

— erb (@bentleyliz2) November 30, 2022

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 December 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

Xtine kinda stuck with organ and piano, huh? does anyone know if she fucked with synths on any of the records? Seems to me that the intros for "Little Lies" and "everywhere" would be Lindsey or Dashut or someone like that? Or am I wrong?

― veronica moser, Thursday, December 1, 2022 3:20 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

She's definitely playing the handful of synth parts on the 1975 album and Rumours, probably played less of the programmed stuff by the time of Tango.

― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, December 1, 2022

She's credited with ARP as far back as Heroes Are Hard to Find.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 December 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

She could also kick out the jams on accordion!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5HQ2sEqZZE

Steve Winwood on FB:

“Christine was a lovely lady. I knew her briefly in the early days of the blues and folk scene in Birmingham, then later in the mid 80s when she lived in L.A., and shortly after I was lucky and privileged to play on one of her solo albums.

She had a beautiful alto voice that had elements of blues and church choral music, which in many ways set her apart from some of her melismatic contemporaries. Her beautiful, syllabic style was a joy to listen to. Together with her engaging, heartfelt songs she will be greatly missed. R.I.P. Christine” - SW

...some of her melismatic contemporaries OTM. Listening to the Christine Perfect album yesterday for the first time in a long time, it struck me that while she was of the British blues boom, she's never exactly emulating Etta James or Tina Turner on the songs of theirs she covered. She replaced the overemoting of many of her contemporaries with a sort of "coolness" that served her well as Mac became a pop band.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link

That's the best thing Winwood's ever written, including "Valerie."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

There are definitely some good tracks on Chicken Shack's "Blue Horizon Sessions" collection.

I've always thought Christine's take on "I'd Rather Go Blind" was very beautiful and definitely shows the laid back coolness of the delivery. I got to think she liked some Dusty Springfield and maybe in a different set of circumstances, you could see some US label signing her like they did Rod Stewart out of that scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao9HpsXfuzY

earlnash, Thursday, 1 December 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link

I remember Sony sneaking that track on to The Best of Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac CD from 2002. A cheat, but a welcome one.

birdistheword, Thursday, 1 December 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link

Lindsey has now posted a handwritten message:

Christine McVie’s sudden passing is profoundly heartbreaking. Not only were she and I part of the magical family of Fleetwood Mac, to me Christine was a musical comrade, a friend, a soul mate, a sister. For over four decades, we helped each other create a beautiful body of work and a lasting legacy that continues to resonate today. I feel very lucky to have known her. Though she will be deeply missed, her spirit will live on through that body of work and that legacy.

birdistheword, Thursday, 1 December 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

rip :(

dyl, Friday, 2 December 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

so sad :'(

flopson, Friday, 2 December 2022 00:52 (one year ago) link

Erin Osmon with some grand thoughts

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2022-12-01/fleetwood-mac-christine-mcvie-stevie-nicks

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 December 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

There's a picture in that LA Times article of Christine onstage in 1977 playing a tom-tom, what song could they be performing?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 2 December 2022 01:29 (one year ago) link

That's a good question. Supposedly Atlanta GA, 1977. She would step out front for World Turning, but usually with maracas.... for the jam sesh portion Mick would come out with a talking drum or whatever so that's my first guess- an unusual jam part of World Turning.

My only other guess is it could be a proto Sisters of the Moon.... what? I looked for some more pictures of this show by the same photographer, and one of the results is a shot of Lindsey with short hair and no beard, playing a Les Paul. He went with his new look when they started Tusk in 78, but stopped playing Les Pauls by 79, IIRC. Assuming the city is correct this could be from 8/29/78. Sisters is the only new song in that setlist and it is a song that Stevie holds a cowbell for. Maybe C hadn't worked out her part yet?

majorairbro, Friday, 2 December 2022 05:17 (one year ago) link

the 16 songs she takes lead vocal on (15 of which she wrote) from their 1971-1974 period would make a classic double LP.

probably someone more knowledgeable than me might know this: how often did the band revisit those tracks after buckingham/nicks arrived? so many of those tracks could have fit in beautifully on the s/t or rumours or tusk. it remains sort of a lost era (for the entire band, really.)

omar little, Friday, 2 December 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

There are live takes of "Why", "Spare Me A Little of Your Love" and "Station Man" (among other early tracks) on the deluxe S/T album box, but I think the Christine stuff from that era didn't last much longer as concert material once Rumours came along.

Hadn't seen this before. Paul Bartel!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnuKxTff55s

Even for 1984 that's a lot of makeup.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 December 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

I love when Fleetwood Mac (as a band and solo) goes country.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 December 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

I saw that in 1984 on my local video show! Obviously someone thought that it could be of interest to an audience of 12-year olds. That was before the advent of "mature" rock videos for older artists and audiences.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 3 December 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

If you can believe it, "Got a Hold On Me" was in heavy rotation in early 1984.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 December 2022 15:24 (one year ago) link

Even for 1984 that's a lot of makeup shoulder pads.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 5 December 2022 04:57 (one year ago) link

It was either make that video, or do a six episode arc as Lady Christine Thistlewick on Dynasty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjH84W_-V1c

Bob Welch w/Christine & Mick in '81

Brown Eyes is the best FMac song

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 8 December 2022 10:08 (one year ago) link

I recoil from that breathy tone Welch uses.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 December 2022 10:23 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Yeah, Soto otm re: Mick's gifts. And John, he's pretty great, too, of course; iirc Mike Mills had a "what would John McVie do?" maxim. I think in their case as a rhythm section, it could be the result of all those formative years woodshedding, which helps them swing and shuffle through stuff like "Over My Head."

I can confirm also reading an interview mention of the Mills McVie maxim.

It’s Only Her Factory, Girl! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 00:12 (one year ago) link

I missed this good bit from the L.A. Times obit:

Her grounding presence was a welcome contrast to Nicks’ nymph-like persona, not because it positioned the two against each other, but because it offered two very powerful frameworks for womanhood and female friendship within the same chart-topping band. The idea that women must choose — that one is either a Christine or a Stevie — is an outmoded and reductive binary in the year 2022. Instead, the fruitful pairing of McVie and Nicks, how their writing and personalities elegantly commingle and reflect back on one another, offers an antidote to the notion that women can be only one thing.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 00:23 (one year ago) link

Nice

It’s Only Her Factory, Girl! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 00:25 (one year ago) link

And yet, they sure didn’t seem to work together much the last 25 years.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 30 March 2023 13:41 (one year ago) link

And where were all these Nicks/McVie partisans when Behind the Mask came out?

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 30 March 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link

Blasting "Save Me."

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 March 2023 14:09 (one year ago) link

Or, like Rolling Stone, saying "the addition of Rick Vito and Billy Burnette is the best thing to ever happen to Fleetwood Mac".

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 30 March 2023 14:10 (one year ago) link

This is my favorite song from the 1988-1990 era. Nicks, McVie, and the ringers harmonize well, and the woozy synths complement them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtAFOlNSDP8

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 March 2023 14:12 (one year ago) link

I feel like I said this somewhere else but man, “Prove Your Love” is a terrific song. The wordless refrain with the sawing violins is just magic. Anyone who thinks she needed Lindsey never heard this.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 8 April 2023 02:36 (one year ago) link


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