xp - pretty sure that's a code violation tbh ... or if he actually legally converted them that would be SF Dept of Building and Planning working at record speed ...
― sarahell, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 08:22 (one year ago) link
i'm in a doctor's office w/ my dad (routine checkup), I disconnected from the work network, and yet Outlook is still sending me work emails.
can't figure out how that's happening
― fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 January 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link
office365? could be that they don't lock online office crap to the work vpn/network
― mh, Friday, 13 January 2023 20:48 (one year ago) link
possibly. it only ever works sometimes is the weird thing.
― fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 January 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link
so today, I have a meeting with someone and they're still not back from their appointment at that time. so I close the meeting (or so I thought) and start doing work, and figure I'll wait for her to ping me that she's back and restart it.
so I'm talking to myself, using my usual profane self-talk, and all of a sudden I'm startled by the voice of my trainee joining the session that I apparently DIDN'T actually close.
the words I think I said out loud were "fuckin' perv" related to something not even work related, right as she was joining. hoping she didn't hear them, though she definitely didn't react like she did.
― fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 January 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link
musta been reading the bassnectar thread or something
This seems like a valid point:
Despite the heavily politicized and fractious debate over working from home that both sides participate in, for the most part the actual main benefit of working from home is weirdly under-discussed by both its supporters and critics.
So I’ll say it: the primary benefit for remote work for a lot people, if not most of them eventually, is that it makes balancing career with family much easier.
https://erikhoel.substack.com/p/remote-work-is-the-best-thing-to?r=2jqch&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
― o. nate, Thursday, 26 January 2023 22:19 (one year ago) link
one of my best friends works for my company (in fact, I met him there 18 years ago), and he loves his job, and he let me know that there's an opening for the same position he has right now. I'm qualified for it AND my salary is only in the median of the pay range (meaning I could get a raise upon hire and annual raises again), so I just posted.
I don't hate what I'm doing now, but it's hard to lead 8 hour trainings with the unpredictability of dad, whereas this role would let me work a more flexible schedule, where if I miss an hour here or there, I can log on later at night to catch up. not to mention I love math and this is a pension-related job, working with a partner site that I already know and have a good relationship with.
I am nervous because my head isn't what it was the last time I did a job like this, but the fact that I have my friend to lean on a bit helps. and I can always bail if the job sounds less like a good fit. financially i think it'd be ridiculous to not try for this.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 March 2023 17:15 (one year ago) link
good luck - sounds like a great opportunity!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 March 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link
Good luck! You're sure you don't hate what you're doing now?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 6 March 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link
lol I know my posts make it sound like that. the actual act of training people, I actually do still enjoy, it's mostly the other nonsense politics I don't. I'd be free of them cos I'd be in a completely different wing of the business for the first time since....well...ever.
this friend of mine isn't exactly a mega-positive person so when he says he loves it, that's a p good endorsement for me. not to mention the money.
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 March 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link
basically, the customer care wing hired a complete dolt 8 years ago, and inexplicably, he's kept the position and run the unit into the ground. I'd be leaving that wing to a non-customer care side.
Is there a good thread where the conversation is about people being miserable at work, possibly post-Covid era, possibly related to being burnt out, possibly related to office use or under-use?
― djh, Monday, 6 March 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link
Here would work
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 March 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link
Work situation: knackered at work and conscious that most of those around me are also. Burn out gets mentioned a lot, without any obvious solutions. The office was previously (pre-pandemic) a decent place to (do difficult) work. Lots of very legitimate reasons for working from home (often around childcare, sometimes about saving money on commutes and/or saving time, sometimes about working preferences). Lots of reasons legitimate reasons for working more in the office (support, functioning work). I suspect "the Covid Years" changed something and people are a little broken. Stuck on what might resolve things, even a bit.
― djh, Monday, 6 March 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link
The thing that helped me when I was burnt out from work was a month of leave
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Monday, 6 March 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link
I'll take two
― nashwan, Monday, 6 March 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link
lol otm
― ꙮ (map), Monday, 6 March 2023 22:23 (one year ago) link
I have been seriously burnt out for two years, but no amount of time off will solve it tbh.
There is no finish line; there is no "done." It is a matter of finding a series of more or less tolerable situations until I can embrace a reasonably dignified death
...and on that cheerful note, how b out them Mets?
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 03:48 (one year ago) link
had to withdraw my application, apparently there are multiple versions of this role open, and the one I posted for was not the one my friend's division is posting. it's in a division where they work crazy hours and are work-obsessed, so I'm going to wait for my friend's division to post theirs and re-post. he works 40 hour weeks and takes vacation literally all the time.
re: burnout, yeah - sometimes even time away doesn't work, though I wouldn't refuse it if someone told me to take a paid month off (Narrator: It wouldn't be paid).
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
I'm a teacher and hell yes to burnout. I think 'I'm too old for this shit' probably 10 times a day. If I knew of a way out, I'd chew yer arm off/be like a rat up a drainpipe/move like shit off a chrome shovel. (Is writing poor figurative language a job option?)
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link
Chinaski: my friend, I was in a job interview today and I literally said "this is your baby, and I'm the midwife."
And then I paused to wonder if I had really said that out loud, and it turns out that I had.
Fortunately it went over well - I can easily imagine it going the other way.
Welp.
These are the fortunes of someone with an English/philosophy double major trying to survive in business. Every once in a while, I choose a metaphor that lands wrong, and I find myself jobhunting again.
― Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link
I don't even like the Groundhog Day metaphor anymore, but everyday at my kitchen table is just like the last one, and the one before that
Sometimes a package gets delivered... sometimes I'll do some laundry. Some afternoons I'll have an iced vermouth, or walk around the neighborhood for twenty minutes.
I can't believe it's been three fucking years
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link
I've grown thoroughly comfortable with it, but it helps I have my routines, and while part of me wishes I didn't have to go in on Monday and Tuesday afternoons briefly it does provide some scheduled variety. Honestly if you told me this would be what I'd need to do for the next decade or so, say, I'd be perfectly fine.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link
reapplied for the correct job. apparently it's not exactly in my friend's division but it's not in the 'insane' division either.
going to ask for a $30k raise, wish me luck
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link
(not really but might as well aim high right lol)
xpost Ned - yeah, I actually don't want to go back to the rat race at all, just grumbling. We kept our San Francisco office (SOMA) but it's a total shambles with boxes and junk lying everywhere. No one will have their own desk or office anymore.. it'll just be all common space. But there are days where literally NO ONE goes into the office, not even the skeleton support staff (Operations, receptionist etc.). I don't know what the future is but it won't look anything like the past, every again.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link
For awhile our CEO was going on about 'I know that everyone is really psyched to get back in the office in person' but then she moved to Florida (thanks DeSantis) and she's dropped all that. Nobody talks like that anymore.. it's all vague talk about future events, summits, in-person scrums and team meetings, stuff like that
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link
X-post to Ye Mad Puffin: please tell me you were going for a job as an actual mid-wife.
― djh, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
This:
everyday at my kitchen table is just like the last one, and the one before that
And this:
No one will have their own desk or office anymore.. it'll just be all common space. But there are days where literally NO ONE goes into the office, not even the skeleton support staff (Operations, receptionist etc.)
... seem so familiar.
― djh, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link
xp YMP, your metaphor cheered up this miserable prick. Perhaps we could form a metaphor-writing company. The profundity apparatus. Needs some work; might fly.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:47 (one year ago) link
The Profundity Apparatus must surely be a novel by Nicholson Baker.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link
reapplied for the correct job. apparently it's not exactly in my friend's division but it's not in the 'insane' division either.going to ask for a $30k raise, wish me luck
Get it. Pound the table till you get it. You deserve it.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:52 (one year ago) link
Yup.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 22:06 (one year ago) link
cosign
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 22:07 (one year ago) link
I was pleased as punch when my current position was moved to WFH in 2016, well before the pandemic happened. Now we're a fully WFH company with no local office to even go into.
Not sure I could ever do the commute to and from an office gig again. I'm broken in the best way.
It's not a skilled position, and I really only make enough to keep my mortgage paid, but more $$$ usually equals more stress and, with no family obligations, I just want to live the rest of my life with as little stress as possible.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 22:14 (one year ago) link
xpost thanks all.
agree about y'all making the pun company too.
but what would you...name it
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 22:15 (one year ago) link
Metaphore on the Floor
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link
JF I am also (recently) 100% WFH and I am loving it
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 23:14 (one year ago) link
Chinaski, I am totally down with launching an artisanal metaphor store.
Metaphors from my working world that I am pretty tired of:
- "Big rocks" to mean "problems we need to solve"
- "The long pole in the tent" to mean "the thing we need to figure out before anything else can get figured out"
- "Shark in the water" to mean "unsolved problem"
- There's another one that I sometimes hear that's like "the wolf that's closest to the wagon" that means "the most urgent problem we have right now."
This business-speak is interesting because it's all about a fantasy of wilderness survival (which makes exactly zero sense for suburban IT workers). It's a little bit better than war or sports metaphors, but not by much.
In my ideal world, businesspeople would have a wider range and could draw from less macho realms. Like, "this reminds me of the My Little Pony episode where Twilight Sparkle needed to use the power of friendship." "Folks, we need to have a solution meeting about this - let's go into the Barbie Dreamhouse conference room."
Just once I'd like to hear "I think this executive summary needs more smize." Or "can this proposal get more pizazz?"
― Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:14 (one year ago) link
THE MERCHANDISE IS PIZZLED
(sorry)
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:17 (one year ago) link
oh and: best of luck to our favorite protohuman, Neanderthal. hope things go well.
― Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:22 (one year ago) link
I used a Marie Kondo reference at work today.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:29 (one year ago) link
lol, this budget item does not spark joy
― Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:30 (one year ago) link
"The long pole in the tent"
Jeez don't let me boss hear these, he loves a good 'everything looks like a nail' or whack-a-mole reference
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 00:37 (one year ago) link
I have found myself saying "heavy lift" multiple times over the past few weeks. I need to fucking stop with that.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link
i say "going forward" and "reach out" all the damn time now :|
― ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 03:08 (one year ago) link
lots of "check in" and "chat". less "circle back" and "touch base" though, thankfully.
― ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 03:10 (one year ago) link
i prefer faux-humble-folksy work lingo to sports metaphors
― ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 03:11 (one year ago) link
I prefer "heavy lift" to "big ask" fwiw
― Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 03:51 (one year ago) link