Elon Musk

xp "However, the arrival of the Cybertruck might significantly change its ranking."

its funny ppl still think the cybertuck a vehicle flagrantly in violation of crash safety regulations will ever come out

i mean theyll prob put a truck out eventually but the public prototypes to date are absolute fantasy

how much car safety regulation in the US is at the state level? this feels like it could be another front in interstate culture wars.

think that stuff is all federal

meanwhile theres three electric pickups that people are extremely stoked on already out with a bunch more coming

don't worry, they're going to switch to making semis for truckers!

the reviews of the semi so far are pretty bad

funny thing about the semi reveal is they made absolutely no claims about full self driving cause they know the professional buyers wouldnt be falling for it

Iirc they've been boasting about how much it can haul without revealing how much the fucking empty truck itself actually weighs, which will have a huge effect on capacity, road damage, etc.

xp huh, yeah i hadn't bothered to think about the age of their product lines as a thing but that is a weird huge unimaginable failure to understand their market space it seems to me. so much about cars (and many many things) is getting the new new.

I am watching a movie clips about @elonmusk's Tesla Semi - remember, the truck that was to revolutionize the transport industry when it entered the market 4 years ago 🤡

And I am going to tell you'all why it is a completely stupid vehicle. And I won't even want to talk about (1)

— Tomasz Oryński (@TOrynski) December 8, 2022

he really said "I'm Rick, bitch"

cars are designed to DOT standards first, i think, which are federal (hence why cars have gotten bigger in last 10 years as has been discussed on ilove cars, the need to implement crumple zones and such).

california as a state has a lot of power here though since they're a huge market and are able to hold automakers to higher standards than federal through their state standards - if a car can be sold in california, it can be sold anywhere.

the level of competition and improvement on fit and finish/interiors etc in cars currently is crazy too, like you never want to have an old lineup but thats particularly rough now, especially when your quality lagged behind in the first place

ha this thread is amazing seems like they didnt consult a single trucker or anyone who knows about them

i). Drivers sits in the middle. This makes overtaking or looking ahead more difficult. But also makes it impossible to reach out of the window to pass the paperwork or to talk with the guy in the gatehouse when you enter a port or a factory or, say, a tollbooth. (4) pic.twitter.com/5vLmgHNhP0

— Tomasz Oryński (@TOrynski) December 8, 2022

A few weeks ago someone said that Elon is terrified of reliving the fall of apartheid, and it’s totally changed the way I see his posts pic.twitter.com/ENU9lY6WbI

— DEI coordinator for sinaloa cartel (@Forever_Wario) December 12, 2022

lol I do make a point of repeating the phrase "white South African billionaire" a lot. It helps to remember who we're dealing with.

emerald mine heir etc

Elon basically IS the villain demographic from movies and TV shows in the late Reagan/Poppy Bush era, when Russians got less fashionable as bad guys but everyone could agree rich white South Africans were terrible.

they have such gross accents too

california as a state has a lot of power here though since they're a huge market and are able to hold automakers to higher standards than federal through their state standards - if a car can be sold in california, it can be sold anywhere.

― 龜, Monday, December 12, 2022 2:22 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

also 🇪🇺. lol at anything like the cybertruck ever being sold there.

Popular image of white South Africans in the 80s =

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9dmoT9AfoI

yeah feel like cali/eu tagteaming must be pretty common - like it was big news here when cali announced they were gonna ban ice engines by 2035 but really they were just aligning with the eu's decision to do the same a few months before xp

I rode in my first Tesla this week (Uber) and the interior looked like a 30 yo Star Trek: TNG set. All the controls and instruments are in what looks like an offbrand Surface Pro strapped to the very center of the dash. So many unnecessary changes to basic car controls/functions just for the sake of reinforcing that the car was special. Needed instructions to open the door from the outside and the inside. Interesting design choice to force the driver to take their hands off the wheel to scroll through several levels of screens for basic controls (radio, comfort, wipers?) that nearly every other car company now puts on the steering column or wheel.

Popular image of white South Africans in the 80s =

https://media.tenor.com/Xe2unUKcr0MAAAAC/diplomatic-immunity-diplomat.gif

"The demn blex"

xxp next gen will be dope though, octagonal wheels and “knights who say ni” when you honk the horn.

Does Tesla have any actual automotive engineers on staff? Who thought it was a good idea to put the driver in the center?

prob elon

he is a centrist, you know

The average Tesla driver could have their seatbelt break, get lodged in the windshield of their car, and will still go on Twitter while in the windshield and post

"hi Elon, love your cars, had a small issue with the belt today but it allowed me to have a once in a life time experience today"

yeah feel like cali/eu tagteaming must be pretty common - like it was big news here when cali announced they were gonna ban ice engines by 2035 but really they were just aligning with the eu's decision to do the same a few months before xp

― 龜, Monday, December 12, 2022 3:04 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

right also the CCPA is not a million miles from the GDPR IIUC.

Does Tesla have any actual automotive engineers on staff?

"tesla engineers poached" = About 862,000 results (0.69 seconds)

All through 2017-2020 Apple, Rivian, and Ford were hiring Tesla engineers. Alan Clarke (who was Tesla's manager of new programs engineering and had been there for 12 years) split for Ford in February.

my coworker has an older tesla (although maybe not old, because they never come out with new models!) and any time I ride in the back seat I have to be reminded of how to open the damn door

the design decision where holding the "door open" button rolls the window down a little bit so it can clear the frame, because the top of the window goes into the roof and not into a slot in the top of the door, is just weird

Does Tesla have any actual automotive engineers on staff? Who thought it was a good idea to put the driver in the center?

"It looked cool in the McLaren F1 so it will look cool here too."

It's the logic of a 12-year old drawing their ideal Ferrari-Lambo-Space Shuttle.

the design decision where holding the "door open" button rolls the window down a little bit so it can clear the frame, because the top of the window goes into the roof and not into a slot in the top of the door, is just weird

― mh, Monday, December 12, 2022 3:46 PM (twenty-nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

lmao had not heard about that, think saw something similar on a review of an old lamborghini back from when they were designed by literal insane people

everyone's first reaction is "oh, I must have hit the window button and not the door open button" because it's unintuitive and they're not labeled. and then you end up rolling down the window on your second try

"tesla engineers poached" = About 862,000 results (0.69 seconds)

All through 2017-2020 Apple, Rivian, and Ford were hiring Tesla engineers. Alan Clarke (who was Tesla's manager of new programs engineering and had been there for 12 years) split for Ford in February.

I was mostly being tongue in cheek, but honestly that design choice seems to be one made by someone who knows virtually nothing about automotive design . . . or driving, for that matter.

If your point is that Tesla's best engineers have been poached, that makes sense.

someone should tell them to check out door handles xp

for some reason i thought the car homer designed in the simpsons had the driver at the center, but even homer had the sense to keep the driver on the left hand side

https://media.wired.com/photos/593252a1edfced5820d0fa07/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/the-homer-inline4.jpg

xpost I had the darndest time closing the door in my friends Tesla. I was sure it was still open a tiny little bit, not fully closed, but I cannot figure out how to do it without him pulling the car over and showing me.

that called innovation baby

Disruption

$TSLA hit a new 12-month low by a couple of pennies today, i think. the rally is over!

I do wonder how Tesla owners are currently feeling about the fact that they’re driving around automotive MAGA hats these days.

Anecdotally, I don't think they care. Though I bet it puts a dent in future purchases, especially once you factor in all the alternatives out there.

I am seeing a lot of the EV Kias and Mustangs lately, as well as a lot of Volvos and VWs.

yeah theres starting to be a shit ton of evs to choose from, at least model wise not sure if a shit ton of actual cars exist yet

glenn, thank you

The same worthless media liberals who never break stories, who never do any reporting, who just sit around mimicking each other every day - speaking only to and for one another in servitude to Dems - all write the same articles because they're all hive-minded empty herd animals. https://t.co/CK74mXWPJN

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) December 12, 2022