US Politics, December 2022: "They're now the working class party, man."

Moodles I don't know if asking a President to declare martial law is in itself a crime, as they could just say "well he could say no!".

but it's part of a broader conspiracy I would guess. I'm no lawyer though.

i tried calling marshall law once but he wasn’t home

i called marshall law once in his vegetable garden but he said, my name’s not law, and i said, you can say that again

so he said my name’s not law

and then he arrested me for disturbing the peas

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lol and now the Jan. 6 committee is just withdrawing subpoenas left and right. I mean, the targets were never going to comply, but still, they basically ran out their own shot clock.

to me, the kind of thing I would look for in texts that would constitute a more straightforward crime would be a politician discussing how they were helping to arm and provide logistics to Proud Boys in order to take over the Capitol and kidnap key members of Congress. Most of what I've seen so far looks far more vague.

RIP Kevin O'Neill
http://www.bedetheque.com/media/Planches/PlancheS_34233.jpg

remember 1987, when superheroes were so culturally dominant and being taken seriously by adults that we needed satire that vicious, black and obvious

like i keep saying, DeSantis is a sincere crank and I think it will be off-putting on a national stage. https://t.co/C0HvOSb8Xi

— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) December 13, 2022

is he sitting in front of a wall of karens?

National Front Wall of Karens

Whoever "they" is are about to learn how petulant and frog-faced DeSantis is.

DeSantis is also "creating a grand jury to investigate mRNA shots & Big Pharma" — yeah this kind of stuff makes me think he's just not very smart. Either he believes this anti-vax bullshit, which means he's intellectually dumb, or he is so far ensconced in the right-wing bubble that he thinks things that are very important there are very important to the broader population, which means he's politically dumb. (I suspect the answer is both — he's dumb and he's dumb.)

his eyes always seem a little bloodshot, maybe from the relentless scowl

It's both, and he thinks he'll win lol

About 20-25% of the population is convinced that great crimes were committed by Fauci/pharma/etc during the Great Lockdown era and is out for revenge. But I just don't see that playing all that well on the road.

his eyes always seem a little bloodshot, maybe from the relentless scowl hooch.

What the pundit class hasn't figured out is how Trumpism without Trump isn't popular either.

Someone on that Rupar thread points out that Florida had more than double the Covid deaths of Canada

i think it has more than twice the population of canada tho

nope, 20 million vs. 37 million for Canada, about half

so 4x Covid deaths, roughly

per capita

The real revelation people should have had from COVID was that a lot of people will be perfectly happy for you to die rather than inconvenience themselves. The naked selfishness of pandemic politics.

100%

Yea the death stat is one Ronnie's stans blame on the elderly population, which ignored other populations that skew that way that didn't have our death.

We had large pockets of low vaxxed areas thanks to his politicized DOH, and these often tended to be elder areas

The exceptions: Cuban seniors, who believe their doctors as much as God and, as I've heard many times, were willing to say "Trump was wrong" about masks.

Cocoa Beach area REALLY bad. During the first wave, I would drive down there because I missed my visits there, but I wasn't willing to go to the beach/bars/etc. I'd just make the drive and jam tunes to recreate something fun while waiting for shit to get better.

But I went into a corner store to get a soda and had a mask on and some fossil snickered behind his back.

Nobody out there has masked since like...one month in April 2020

yeah, to my relief, I'm seeing slightly more masking in Publix (where employees have somewhat masked since spring '22).

DeSantis is awful, but I don't see too many impediments to him eventually taking over the republican party. I'm not sure I believe people who are saying he could never be elected because he is too short/too uncharismatic/too unappealing or too unlikable. He is likable enough to a lot of people who are of a similar mindset.

His eagerness to inflame culture wars though, in the most crass possible ways - that is really creepy and maybe it will be his undoing

Believe the Floridians. Can he win the nomination? Sure. But ask Scott Walker.

He is likable enough to a lot of people who are of a similar mindset.

The problem is getting the other 10% of the population. If everything has gone to shit by Nov. 2024 he could win, sure - but it's an uphill battle because most people find this form of culture war off-putting.

Trump 2016 was nowhere near as revolting for normies - xenophobia and racism are as American as apple pie and you get to hide behind cover like "illegal" immigration. Psychotic denunciations of doctors and classroom litter box and Satanic Panic 2.0 shit seems insane to people who just want to get by in life with a little less stress.

I understand the tendency not to understate any GOP candidate's chances after 2016 (I did too)...but that was a one-off year. Six years later and the midterms have if anything proved that the swing voters who really care about this shit are fucking bored of Trumpism no matter who embodies it.

I wore a Fuck DeSantis shirt for five minutes and got a compliment

Yeah, friend’s partner wrote this, the weirdness is probably unpalatable https://newrepublic.com/article/169050/masters-vance-weird-right-republicans

I regularly get compliments on my Obama t-shirt. No one has ever said anything negative about it.

re: milo's and alfred's posts - I guess, I hope so

Trump 2016 was nowhere near as revolting for normies

Because Trump was a TV star. He was pre-existing IP. Once he was in office and had to actually, you know, be President, people who had previously been neutral-to-"how bad could he be?" fucking hated him. DeSantis doesn't have that built-in cushion. He's not a celebrity, just a politician.

Basically everyone who read The Invisible Bridge in 2014 and noted Reagan's deep talent on radio and TV forgot how Trump had been following a similar path for nearly a decade before 2015, not to mention another decade of headlines.

I still remember one of my partners in 2016 saying that Trump wouldn't be so bad because he would be surrounded by good, competent people.

I think that DeSantis's cushion might be that culture war shit, which he is really playing up

A lot of people in 2016 were also saying that Trump would be a lot more moderate than he was, and it wasn't totally unreasonable at that point, but DeSantis has an actual record that he can't hide from, he isn't fooling anyone.

Not many feathers left in that cushion, Dan, as the midterms proved.

Look, I'm just trying to keep ILE from scareporning over this guy.

:)

;)

A ridiculous amount of OTM in the last 10-15 posts

Honestly, on the most superficial grounds there's no way DeSantis will ever be president.

1) His speaking voice
2) His inability to stand or walk like a normal human
3) His inability to feign happiness or pleasure in front of cameras
4) He looks like Michael Dukakis after one semi-successful eyebrow-threading appointment

lol I sincerely hope that's how people see him

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