This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2022

Listening to the first part of the Film Comment "live reveal" podcast that just dropped and a moment of unintentional comedy when all panelists admit that none of their own personal #1 choices of the year didn't even make the aggregate top 10.

https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/the-film-comment-podcast-the-best-films-of-2022/

film comment list insanely good

― flamenco drop (BradNelson),

Insanely well-designed too.

I have been jealous of their template for some years now

I voted for Kristen Stewart in Best Supporting Actress fwiw

It's a bit crazy to compare the FC list to the one from 20 years ago to see just how much more diffuse and diverse (not a bad thing) critical consensus has become.

1. Far From Heaven (Todd Haynes, U.S.)
2. Adaptation (Spike Jonze, U.S.)
3. Y tu mama también (Alfonso Cuarón, Mexico)
4. Talk to Her (Pedro Almodóvar, Spain)
5. About Schmidt (Alexander Payne, U.S.)
6. Time Out (Laurent Cantet, France)
7. The Fast Runner (Zacharias Kunuk, Canada)
8. Punch-Drunk Love (Paul Thomas Anderson, U.S.)
9. Russian Ark (Alexander Sokurov, Russia/Germany)
10. Gangs of New York (Martin Scorsese, U.S.)
11. Minority Report (Steven Spielberg, U.S.)
12. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, Japan)
13. In Praise of Love (Jean-Luc Godard, France/Switzerland)
14. I’m Going Home (Manoel de Oliveira, Portugal/France)
15. Bloody Sunday (Paul Greengrass, U.K./Ireland)
16. The Piano Teacher (Michael Haneke, Austria/France)
17. What Time Is It There? (Tsai Ming-liang, Taiwan/France)
18. Femme Fatale (Brian De Palma, U.S.)
19. The Pianist (Roman Polanski, Poland/U.K./France)
20. Late Marriage (Dover Kosashvili, Israel)

Then again, maybe it's not so far off ... a lot of the names above were, in 2002, still pretty fresh on the scene.

Spirited Away is better than Punch-Drunk Love ffs

Their gushing over Far From Heaven messed with my head for years.

I get the reception for Gangs of New York in general back then but ... it's un-good

Spirited Away is better than Punch-Drunk Love ffs

Well it's better than all of the 19 other movies on this list, as we well know now

ANDELE ANDELE MAMI EO EO

Well one former ILXor is still in Ye's corner:

Chris Boeckmann (critic, programmer)

There Will Be No More Night
The Rehearsal
El gran movimiento
Mr. Bachmann and His Class
The Fire Within: A Requiem for Katia and Maurice Krafft
Petite maman
We
TÁR
We’re All Going to the World’s Fair
One Man Dies a Million Times
Jackass Forever
Friends and Strangers
Top Gun: Maverick
A Night of Knowing Nothing
Barbarian
jeen-yuhs: A Kanye Trilogy
Dog
I Didn't See You There
Deep Water
Dos Estaciones

there are a lot of films from the Film Comment list that I'm interested in seeing

I love when Keith unleashes the big guns, and am surprised this isn't a zero-star review:

https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/babylon-review-damien-chazelle-margot-robbie-brad-pitt/

Babylon is all exclamation points.

Darren Aronofsky has company.

Both can take a just back seat to S. S. Rajamouli from here on out

i just watched On Deadly Ground the other day and did not expect it to come up in that review

Running Time: 188 min

whyyyy?

I might be into seeing a movie as disastrous as this sounds, but even if it were as good as The Leopard, I cannot handle a three-hour movie without an intermission.

it's why I refused to go to the screening: a three-hour-plus Chazelle movie and you can't piss all over the screen?

Visualizing a future of cinema that none of his pastiche characters will live to see, Chazelle traces an extremely Western canon line from Singin’ in the Rain to Vivre Sa Vie to Persona to a certain James Cameron-helmed blockbuster that just so happens to have a belated sequel out this year.

Is there anything more Oscar-bait than putting a "Magic of Movies" montage right in your movie?

So if it really is going to be Banshees vs. Everything Everywhere for best picture, that'll be ... meh

I'm starting to think Farrell's got at least his first nomination.

So if it really is going to be Banshees vs. Everything Everywhere for best picture, that'll be ... meh

Tar will be in there, as will Triangle of Sadness.

Meant to clarify I was talking Oscar there. Variety is now floating the ridiculous (?) idea that the field is laying out so as to leave a wide path for Top Gun to win, which would be the perfect way to follow up a win for CODA tbh

feeling suspiciously like that field will include Decision to Leave

I'd be surprised about that. It's picked up a few critics' prizes for best foreign-language film and in categories like editing and cinematography, but it doesn't have much momentum in major categories like picture or director. At this time last year, Drive My Car (to pick an obvious comparison) had won best film from New York, Boston, and Los Angeles critics groups.

FWIW, this is the current Gold Derby expert predictions for Oscar best picture nominations:

1. The Fabelmans
2. Everything Everywhere All at Once
3. The Banshees of Inisherin
4. Top Gun: Maverick
5. TAR
6. Women Talking
7. Avatar: The Way of Water
8. Elvis
9. Glass Onion
10. The Woman King

(#11 is Babylon, which I think could easily sneak in there.)

i always feel like the oscars best picture noms need to include one unambiguously great film and i suppose i think that's the park chan wook this year

that is a great film, but I don't think it's likely.

i need to watch tar to see if that's unambiguously great. Maybe Women Talking is unambiguously great? I don't think anything else on that list could be.

Tar is very good

most great films are not destined for oscars

for sure! but it feels like there's always one in the list. this theory bears exploration.

? if i'm going based on reputation alone:

2021: Drive My Car?
2020: Minari
2019: I mean, I guess Parasite?
2018: The Favourite
2017: Get Out/Lady Bird/Phantom Thread
2016: Moonlight
2015: Fury Road
2014: Boyhood
2013: Wolf of Wall Street, maybe Nebraska?
2012: Amour?
2011: Tree of Life?

2011 is ROUGH man: Woody's last generally accepted film, War Horse, The Help, Scorcese's kids film...

I'd tag The Fabelmans unambiguously great but it doesn't exactly fit the profile outlined in forks' list

I was not crazy about Eo. Eo's cuter than Balthazar, I'll grant.

I had my issues with EO and yes, it's not the Balthazar we want ... but it's the Balthazar we deserve.

Sight and Sound Top 50:

https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/polls/50-best-films-2022

At some point, Aftersun landing atop an aggregate list was inevitable

Still haven't seen that damn Hansen-Løve.

Oscar shortlists:

Documentary Feature

“All That Breathes”
“All the Beauty and the Bloodshed”
“Bad Axe”
“Children of the Mist”
“Descendant”
“Fire of Love”
“Hallelujah: Leonard Cohen, a Journey, a Song”
“Hidden Letters”
“A House Made of Splinters”
“The Janes”
“Last Flight Home”
“Moonage Daydream”
“Navalny”
“Retrograde”
“The Territory”

Documentary Short Subject

“American Justice on Trial: People v. Newton”
“Anastasia”
“Angola Do You Hear Us? Voices from a Plantation Prison”
“As Far as They Can Run”
“The Elephant Whisperers”
“The Flagmakers”
“Happiness Is £4 Million”
“Haulout”
“Holding Moses”
“How Do You Measure a Year?”
“The Martha Mitchell Effect”
“Nuisance Bear”
“Shut Up and Paint”
“Stranger at the Gate”
“38 at the Garden”

International Feature Film

Argentina, “Argentina, 1985”
Austria, “Corsage”
Belgium, “Close”
Cambodia, “Return to Seoul”
Denmark, “Holy Spider”
France, “Saint Omer”
Germany, “All Quiet on the Western Front”
India, “Last Film Show”
Ireland, “The Quiet Girl”
Mexico, “Bardo, False Chronicle of a Handful of Truths”
Morocco, “The Blue Caftan”
Pakistan, “Joyland”
Poland, “EO”
South Korea, “Decision to Leave”
Sweden, “Cairo Conspiracy”

Live-Action Short Film

“All in Favor”
“Almost Home”
“An Irish Goodbye”
“Ivalu”
“Le Pupille”
“The Lone Wolf”
“Nakam”
“Night Ride”
“Plastic Killer”
“The Red Suitcase”
“The Right Words”
“Sideral”
“The Treatment”
“Tula”
“Warsha”

Animated Short Film

“Black Slide”
“The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse”
“The Debutante”
“The Flying Sailor”
“The Garbage Man”
“Ice Merchants”
“It’s Nice in Here”
“More than I Want to Remember”
“My Year of Dicks”
“New Moon”
“An Ostrich Told Me the World Is Fake and I Think I Believe It”
“Passenger”
“Save Ralph”
“Sierra”
“Steakhouse”

Original Song

“Time” from “Amsterdam”
“Nothing Is Lost (You Give Me Strength)” from “Avatar: The Way of Water”
“Lift Me Up” from “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever”
“This Is A Life” from “Everything Everywhere All at Once”
“Ciao Papa” from “Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio”
“Til You’re Home” from “A Man Called Otto”
“Naatu Naatu” from “RRR”
“My Mind & Me” from “Selena Gomez: My Mind & Me”
“Good Afternoon” from “Spirited”
“Applause” from “Tell It like a Woman”
“Stand Up” from “Till”
“Hold My Hand” from “Top Gun: Maverick”
“Dust & Ash” from “The Voice of Dust and Ash”
“Carolina” from “Where the Crawdads Sing”
“New Body Rhumba” from “White Noise”

Original Score

“All Quiet on the Western Front”
“Avatar: The Way of Water”
“Babylon”
“The Banshees of Inisherin”
“Black Panther: Wakanda Forever”
“Devotion”
“Don’t Worry Darling”
“Everything Everywhere All at Once”
“The Fabelmans”
“Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery”
“Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio”
“Nope”
“She Said”
“The Woman King”
“Women Talking”

Makeup and Hairstyling

“All Quiet on the Western Front”
“Amsterdam”
“Babylon”
“The Batman”
“Black Panther: Wakanda Forever”
“Blonde”
“Crimes of the Future”
“Elvis”
“Emancipation”
“The Whale”

Visual Effects

“All Quiet on the Western Front”
“Avatar: The Way of Water”
“The Batman”
“Black Panther: Wakanda Forever”
“Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness”
“Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore”
“Jurassic World Dominion”
“Nope”
“Thirteen Lives”
“Top Gun: Maverick”

Sound

“All Quiet on the Western Front”
“Avatar: The Way of Water”
“Babylon”
“The Batman”
“Black Panther: Wakanda Forever”
“Elvis”
“Everything Everywhere All at Once”
“Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio”
“Moonage Daydream”
“Top Gun: Maverick”

It's too short for that gesture.

it would be so rad if naatu naatu won best song

“Applause” from “Tell It like a Woman”

This is the Diane Warren presumptive nominee this year, for those keeping score

We could be looking at Oscar nominee James Murphy

was gonna happen sooner or later

“My Year of Dicks” is gonna be one hell of an animated short

the only thing that will get me to watch the oscars is the promise of a "naatu naatu" performance