i could see her arms looking like that for real, after all she's old and skinny and works out a ton
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 30 July 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry, I thought it was a generally known thing that Madonna's arms, due to an insane diet and fitness regimen, look a bit unusual and frightening, which you wouldn't say to Madonna's face because they also look like she could tear you and several phone books in half with them
― nabisco, Thursday, 30 July 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
sometimes one forgets to differentiate between "notable facts people actually know" and "some random celebrity junk everyone talked about for a few days"
― nabisco, Thursday, 30 July 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahaha no, no, I wasn't disagreeing with you nabisco
― Turangalila, Thursday, 30 July 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye4gtLdwO1o
― calstars, Monday, 14 August 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link
She's so good here. Love that husky quality of her voice.
― calstars, Monday, 14 August 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link
https://pagesix.com/2022/10/12/plastic-surgery-experts-on-the-work-madonna-did-to-her-face/
No Judgements here but she looks kind of like kabuki or something in that dinner party pic - I say she can do what she wants! Leave Britney alone!
― | (Latham Green), Monday, 6 February 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link
It's funny to me how that article makes six separate references to her in this time-honored format: the “Like a Prayer” singer; the “Like a Virgin” singer; the “Material Girl” singer; the “A League of Their Own” star; the “La Isla Bonita” singer; the “Vogue” singer.
(No judgments, but she is unrecognizable now.)
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Monday, 6 February 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link
the “You Must Love Me” singer
― i saw mommy kissing twink henry kissinger (breastcrawl), Monday, 6 February 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link
Still aging a lot better than Simon Cowell
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 6 February 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link
SO many "schock of science" exploitation films of the 50's for the possibilities of plastic surgery (Jail Bait by Ed Wood) yet it took this long for the reality to come to season
― | (Latham Green), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link
https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-XUW1fhyJHd5dFQDu-wfzfsg-t500x500.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
can we not do this
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link
A bunch of dudes picking on the cosmetic decisions of a woman?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link
co sign
― sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link
There are photos where she looks pretty close to what she used to look like, photos where she looks like a 64-year-old woman who's almost certainly had some work done, and photos where she looks like a cross between Genesis P'Orridge and Orlan. And that's great! And here's why!
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:43 (one year ago) link
not picking on cosmetic decisions, as stated
― | (Latham Green), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link
kinda self-hate for the times i've ever poked fun at anyone trying to improve their appearance via whatever methods they choose, and due to that i feel hypocritical trying to preach but i don't think anyone deserves to get dragged for their decisions about their own looks, it just shouldn't even be a thing at this point. a couple friends of mine have moms who were vv much in the public eye and they're aging for the most part normally, and they get dragged for that too. it's a no-win, in the shifting goalposts set up by many members of the watchful public.
― omar little, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link
she's also in an industry where people share public photos of them daily and praise or mock how she looks, and also one that rewards people that 'age well', so there could be a litany of reasons she chose to do it.
i don't gaf why, let her live, and will be seeing her in September.
― owl apollo g's (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link
omar otm
Latham I know you say no judgment but you did follow that up with a few posts of mockery, and sharing gossip column article is likely to generate such circular "look at her" firing squads. i just don't want us to turn into Star magazine like portions of old-ILX could tend to be
― owl apollo g's (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link
I get it, but it's Madonna, she wants people to talk about her.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link
― | (Latham Green), Tuesday, February 7, 2023 6:44 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
if you say "no judgment" yet your post is extremely judgmental, that says a lot about how little accountability you're used to taking for your statements
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link
You're right, it was judgmental. But know this, it was not meant to be harmful. Be that as it may, I take it back if it has caused harm. I do have a poison pen at times, and this is not helpful to anyone, nor productive.
― | (Latham Green), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link
It's possible to comment on someone's changing appearance without mocking them for it. I find her face (and the additional stuff she does, like the gold teeth and the eyebrow bleaching and stark, extreme makeup and whatnot) fascinating, not in an "Oh my god, look at her face! What a tragedy!" way but in more of a "Huh, that's an interesting look" way. I'm actually more interested in it because I don't think it's about allegiance to conventional beauty standards or fear of aging or whatever. It's sort of like what John Waters said about Divine: that he didn't want to be pretty, he wanted to be a monster. If Madonna wants to be a monster (and I don't mean that in a pejorative sense at all, I mean it in a folkloric/mythological sense), that's cool. And I view it as I would any other cosmetic decision — she did it because she knew people would be looking at her and she wanted them to see her in a certain way, the same as if she'd gotten a big, obvious tattoo. So look at it! Have thoughts about it! But you can't condemn without knowing the reasons why. And unfortunately there are no interviewers capable of having a real, serious, interesting discussion about it with her without coming off like finger-pointing assholes.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, February 7, 2023 12:43 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah something I've noticed about that sort of extensive surgery is there are always some angles where they look fine but when you look from a different angle or change the lighting suddenly everything looks off. that's a thing with Elon Musk too
who knows why she does any of the things she does, I think people forget that Madonna was sort of on the same level as Michael Jackson, there ain't no human being on the planet like 'em. agree though that it would be cool if an interviewer could take her seriously and try to find out
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link
I do have a poison pen at times
Oh for fuck’s sake. This got a major cringe lol out of me.
― zacata, Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link
same
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link