Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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Um, just catching up, 45,000 is not by any means a large number in pretty much any context when it comes to # people (esp since the 45 virus is to an extent worldwide, not US only)?

That x people should do a specific daft thing is surely only remarkable if x has I dunno seven digits or more, maybe eight?

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link

I mean (and I choose this team at complete random) the Lansing Lugnuts at the high-A level of Minor League Baseball: how many unique spectators (ie not counting repeats) do they draw in the course of a season? I have no idea, but baulking at 45K doing a Dumb Thing seems somewhat in need of calibration.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

I see it could come across that way: No shade intended at the Lugnuts!

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

Gonna have to push back as no one chooses Lugnuts at complete random! This has been proven by probability science. Also, everyone who attends Lugnuts games did a fantastic job, I wish I were there with them at every game, let’s go Nuts

Karl Malone, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

Xp too late! The Lugs are going to be playing angry this year

Karl Malone, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link

45k is not a big number... much to think about

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

I bow to your greater sagacity and will carefully reconsider my positions, users Karl Malone and lag∞n. I have also acquired an otherwise unexplainable urge to travel to Michigan, United States of America, for the viewing of non-superhero-level baseball. This is a thing I have never actually seen.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

(45k is not a big number)

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

its a big number for some things and not for others, its wild actually

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

It's no 45 billion, that's for sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J9MRYJz9-4

jmm, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link

If I look at a video of a Trump rally and think about those people in relation to knowing what an NFT is, 45,000 seems like a lot.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link

I still disagree. It is a small number. Sorry to be a pest.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

Elon Musk you really are quite funny, you sir have won the internet today, please buy me this Lansing Lugnuts hoodie

https://www.duened.com/milb-store-lansing-lugnuts-baseball-shir?prop%5Bcolor%5D=red&prop%5Bsize%5D=&product=31&item=1010064990&side=front

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

is there anything trump could organically sell 45k of in one day just by dropping an infomercial, what would be the best selling thing he could do it with a book maybe, would that sell 45k first day with no press nowhere to buy it except one website idk maybe im thinking probably not tho, what if the website was more complicated to buy things from than most sites, theres a ton of trump books already theres an insane amount of trump crap all the hardcore fans have a lot of it and are receiving constant calls to buy more many from trump himself, now are nfts considerably less desirable than any number of trump crap items absolutely yes, the digital pictures are not popular, but they are maybe the most fraudulent industry in the world, all that considered i feel comfortable in saying that those 45k nft did not really by any normal definition sell out

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

is there anything trump could organically sell 45k of in one day just by dropping an infomercial

Of course. 45000 is a small number. What the hell is difficult about this concept??

I just don't get it, apparently. Maybe it is I who should get an order-of-magnitude recalibration course, or something.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

one thing you could do is instead of being all *extremely nerds voice* based on first principles 45k is a small number you could look into how much of things is a lot to sell then try to figure out if that thing is similar to trump nfts

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

Fair. Ish. I didn't entirely get that your point was about the number of sales*; I thought it was about the number of weirdos**.

*) The last book I co-wrote sold about 700 including a few mandatory for national library etc. My co-writer has a garage full of the remaining 1300 or something.
**) in which case I believe I am right, regardless of nerdvoice register I apparently use. Apologies again; it's a fine line between being clear and being hectoring.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

would that sell 45k first day with no press nowhere to buy it except one website

It was all anyone was talking about the day of the announcement.

74 million Trump voters, plus who knows how many other Trump fans, plus anyone who might be disposed to buy one of these just to flip it, plus anyone who might be disposed to buy one on a lark. This is the context in which 45,000 is a not implausible number of people* who might be willing and able to buy a Trump NFT.

*I don't think it was literally 45,000 people, since people bought multiples. Say 45,000 sincere purchases.

jmm, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

yeah i mean theres what 8 billion people in the world pretty much anyone can sell 45k nfts in a day no problem case closed

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

tomorrow trump could announce a new tshirt and sell 45k and then the next day some socks or whatever

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

ayo anatol could you send me a small amount of dollars

more crankable (sic), Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

That ain't Chia Trump, that's Chia Frank Sivero

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 December 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

let’s go Nuts

much appreciated

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 17 December 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

:) i hope they do say that

Karl Malone, Saturday, 17 December 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

the bernie sanders “freedom choice” chia is $2 more on amazon than the trump one, thereby proving what we knew all along about socialism

the late great, Saturday, 17 December 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

Apes:Slurp Juices::Trump:Wal-Mart Couture

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 18 December 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

lol/sob

People who buy Trump's NTF images don’t fully own them: if they sell the digital cards they have to kick back 10% of the sale price to Trump, who is not actually producing the things. Back in March he set up an entity called CIC which holds the rights to his image and name for NFT licensing. He then granted a license to a group called NFT International, LLC, which was also set up in March.
NFT International has been traced – first to a mailbox at a UPS store in a strip mall in Utah, then from there to an office building in Wyoming and finally to a tiny brick house in Cheyenne that is also the corporate “home” for several frauds and international criminals.
Other companies registered by Wyoming Corporate at 1712 Pioneer with a final address at 2710 Thomes Ave., include:
1) former Ukrainian Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko, who in 2004 was sentenced to eight years in a California prison for money-laundering and extortion, using shell companies and offshore bank accounts to hide stolen Ukrainian government funds.
2) Ira Rubin, who was sued in 2006 by the FTC in federal court for fraudulently using at least 18 different front companies to hide his role as a credit-card processor for telemarketing scams.
and it is also clear that the Trump images are simply his face Photoshopped into old images taken from various Internet websites and rendered to appear as if they are new artwork. Not clear if rights to use those images were obtained, but it appears they were not...

sleeve, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

He learned well from the mafiosos at his casino

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

Now that's classic Donald trump!

nickn, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

This fuckin' guy.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

That Nuzzi article is… something

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link

tl; dr?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 02:35 (one year ago) link

tl; dr?

Trump is a sad loser who nobody likes. He might not even run for president again in 2024, because he's really old and has loser stink all over him, so bad that even other Republican politicians can smell it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 02:54 (one year ago) link

AI Prompt: write a children's story about donald trump, a sad loser who nobody likes, who might not even run for president again in 2024, because he's really old and has loser stink all over him, so bad that even other Republican politicians can smell it.

"Once upon a time there was a man named Donald Trump. He was a sad loser who nobody liked. He always wanted to be President of the United States, but he just couldn't seem to get enough people to like him.

He tried and tried to get people to like him, but it just didn't work. He would spout off his opinions to anyone who would listen and try to get them to like him, but it never worked. He just couldn't seem to connect with people.

He tried to become President in 2020, but he lost to Joe Biden in a landslide. Everyone thought it was a sign that his time was up, and that he would never be President.

But Donald Trump was determined to try again. He started talking about running for President in 2024, but people weren't so sure. After all, he was really old and had loser stink all over him. Even other Republican politicians could smell it.

So, as time went on, people started to think Donald Trump would never run for President again. He was too old, too unpopular, and too full of loser stink.

But Donald Trump still hasn't given up. He still talks about running for President in 2024. Only time will tell if he's able to convince enough people to like him, or if he will just fade away into history as an old, sad loser."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 03:07 (one year ago) link

Found the small passing detail about Ivanka learning guitar as a key part of her post-White House life hilarious for some reason.

I hope she plays Smelly Cat (she does look like Lisa Kudrow a little bit, even)

StanM, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

he just couldn't seem to get enough people to like him

The people who liked him liked him because he was disliked - by people they disliked. "Has the same enemies as me" was a powerful drug in those days, but its shelf-life was limited as a formula for winning.

Ye Mad Puffin, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

Nuzzi's article was pretty good. IMO that's the only way you should really be writing about this guy - as reality star/"celebrity" first, politician second. Politicians have policy goals; Trump's endgame is getting on TV and selling hats and NFTs along the way. Was kinda surprised at the detail about the movie Sunset Boulevard...I would not have expected that

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link

It's that one story about Donald Fagen and Lou Reed that is buried in the archives.

A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link

He's really coming unglued.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

Increasingly isolated, even.

Ye Mad Puffin, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

the story briefly touches on this but it's obviously worth noting that Trump was surrounded by an F-team through most of his last campaign too...until the media propelled him to some early primary victories. as we all know they'll come crawling back the instant he starts winning. though I do have some serious doubts he can pull that off again.

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

this is a very low energy portrait its not good very sad, he needs new drugs maybe idk, tho it is worth noting that were still pretty far out and he doesnt really need to do all that early leg work that the other candidates do going to state fairs meeting with local mayors and whatnot, if he can get himself revved up he should still take the primary pretty easy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link

Even after trashing her you know Trump'll keep taking Nuzzi's calls. He absolutely cannot resist the New York media he grew up with.

His entire frame for seeing the world is still rooted in the Reagan era, when he was at his early showman peak.


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