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🚨BINANCE_US RECEIVES $10 MILLION $USDT INFUSION FROM BINANCE MAIN WALLETS.

THESE ARE NOT SEPARATE ENTITIES. FUNDS ARE COMMINGLED ACROSS ENTIRE BINANCE NETWORK!

BINANCE_US IS A FRONT, JUST LIKE FTX_US. https://t.co/bIXgnLkFZX pic.twitter.com/PbxXc25bjf

— DIRTY BUBBLE MEDIA: WHO AUDITS THE AUDITOR? (@MikeBurgersburg) December 17, 2022

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

who burgs the burgersburg

more crankable (sic), Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

why has bitcoin not been crashing these past four months? what's keeping it up?

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

The international crime ring keeping it afloat through wash trades?

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

Collusion

I mean, I get that, but every day it seems there's a new reason that it should crash for good now, and yet...
I mean are we just waiting for Tether to go?

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

yeah i think so tho maybe binance going under could trigger it too, i mean the vast majority of crypto is held by a relative handful of people aka the conspirators and theyre going to continue to pump it until they lose their ability to do so or until i guess there just no point which is to say there are no more suckers walking in the door, so in some sense prob itll never end but i do think theres going to be a major crash and then itll just become much smaller for good

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

recent bloomberg article not sure if it was posted here detailing a leak of fed prosecutors discussing whether they should charge binance now or gather more evidence and charge them later, gotta think theyre all up in tethers shit too

lag∞n, Saturday, 17 December 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

Bitcoin doesn't have a single associated company to be brought down by, people buying bitcoin are generally just voting "it's worth this amount right, it makes sense that it's worth this amount?". It might not make sense, but as long as there's people who think it does, the price will stay up. It's the one that the SEC doesn't consider a security.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 18 December 2022 02:58 (one year ago) link

theoretically true but not actually how it works

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 December 2022 03:05 (one year ago) link

because of the fraud

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 December 2022 03:17 (one year ago) link

I think you maybe need to reread that

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 18 December 2022 09:50 (one year ago) link

ok i did now what lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 December 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

oh sure in theory bitcoin and some others could be theoretically purchased from an exchange and dumped into a cold wallet you keep at home, making it portable between exchanges and whatever

in practice, very few people do this and the exchange holds the actual blockchain-linked wallet(s) and they claim to hold some notional amount of crypto. don’t worry, the ability to pull your crypto out of an exchange (especially og bitcoin) is directly time-limited according to how many other people are currently attempting a transaction

mh, Sunday, 18 December 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

no URLs. no usernames without the URL. no bypassing restrictions on URLs (like writing example dot com). no posting images with usernames in them.

free speech! pic.twitter.com/S3ZnwxkvSQ

— Molly White (@molly0xFFF) December 18, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 December 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

sry wrong thread

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 December 2022 18:30 (one year ago) link

#onethread

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 18 December 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

ah look at that

Global Drug Conspiracy Used Binance To Launder Millions In Crypto, DEA Investigation Finds.

Good job Binance. 😂 https://t.co/iNSd6fekQl

— Bitfinex’ed 🔥🐧 Κασσάνδρα 🏺 (@Bitfinexed) December 20, 2022

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

“This is actually an example of where the transparency of blockchain transactions works against criminal actors,” Price told Forbes. “The bad guys are leaving a permanent record of what they're doing.

i mean it prob wouldve worked if they didnt buy the bitcoins from a fed in the first place

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

Only programmers would decide to use the internet to arrange their illegal transactions instead of a network of scary guys keeping ledgers in a shoebox

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

there was a super long and interesting New Yorker article a year or two back abt the feds using blockchain analysis to bust people, not gonna go into details but bad people

sleeve, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

yeah its a good way to extract money from cyber crimes but besides that better to do it the old fashioned way

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

🚨 BREAKING: The SEC has officially charged Caroline Ellison & Gary Wang with defrauding FTX investors. https://t.co/r1dLYLuxRw

— Tiffany Fong (@TiffanyFong_) December 22, 2022

🚨 BREAKING: Caroline Ellison & Gary Wang have plead guilty to fraud & are cooperating with prosecutors.

— Tiffany Fong (@TiffanyFong_) December 22, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 02:29 (one year ago) link

hope some vcs go down with this

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 02:31 (one year ago) link

welp that's why Caroline and Gary were so quiet

Statement of U.S. Attorney Damian Williams on U.S. v. Samuel Bankman-Fried, Caroline Ellison, and Gary Wang pic.twitter.com/u1y4cs3Koz

— US Attorney SDNY (@SDNYnews) December 22, 2022

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 22 December 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link

credit where credit’s due, thank you feds and bahamas

mh, Thursday, 22 December 2022 02:55 (one year ago) link

that plea deal must have been sweet to roll over so quickly, or people really hate paying lawyers

mh, Thursday, 22 December 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link

hope some vcs go down with this


the vcs are how the sec has jurisdiction here, unfortunately

, Thursday, 22 December 2022 03:02 (one year ago) link

DOJ and SEC often don’t file charging docs until they already have the plea.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 22 December 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

the vcs are how the sec has jurisdiction here, unfortunately
― 龜, Wednesday, December 21, 2022 10:02 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

they can still be guilty of crimes right

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

i mean, yeah, but what would you charge them with?

, Thursday, 22 December 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

pumping n dumping shitcoins

but just generally there seems to be a ton of collusion between the various crypto whales were some of them vcs do any of the cooperators know anything about that, and even outside of ftx seems like industry wide were going to have a lot of telling happening soon, its probably happening now tbf

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

my intuition is that your general traditional VC type firms like a16z or sequioa did not run crypto prop trading desks, but who knows

, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

nor would you need to to be involved in a conspiracy

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

as weve seen absolutely all of the big crypto players who face any scrutiny end up being dirty, and most of the big money flowing into crypto during this last boom was from vcs, im sure they would like you to believe that theyre just innocent investors, but that of course is not at all how they operate, theyre all up in the business, andreessen horowitz for instance has been intimately involved in building a bunch of these difi etc companies promoting their weird coins which they get at a discount and so forth, theyre totally in it

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

i know a16z had a big crypto fund (down 40%), but didn't know they were also promoting coins?

, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

they invest in companies that produce coins and then they talk about the coins, im not going to write that abbreviation i hate it so much andyhorys whole schtick throughout the late stage of the crypto boom was to have companies theyve invested in whether they were originally crypto or not produce a coin of which they get a bunch at a nice presale price, they were printing money off this shit its much easier to make a coin than an actual good company, the whole thing looks extremely pump n dumpy, idk of course whether it meets the legal definition, but so far everything thats come to light ends up being actually way more criminal than it even looks

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

yeah man, i hear you a lot of shady shit went down, i just dunno if your big traditional VC types were actually pumping and dumping coins

, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

it does look exactly like they were

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

guess well find out soon enough tho

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

https://archive.ph/NgRtb

looks like there already are (private) lawsuits alleging this

, Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

pumpy dumpy

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

yeah theres no doubt that these companies that they built allowed rampant fraud and they knew about it and profited from it, which is bad enough on its own, but then the further question would be if they also did the fraud themselves, seems like it would be pretty temping to have some coins and a pump n dump machine at your fingertips, and also the entire industry is built on pumping and dumping

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

or they couldve also outsourced it to some coconspirator just by sending a text or whatever

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

ftx executives are flipping on bankman f so then who does he flip on whos upstream from him, tether is the obvious one, but also maybe vcs, other crypto whales idk

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/UWpoXhJzvl

— Sean Morrow (@snmrrw) December 22, 2022

lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

Marc andreessen going to jail bc of crypto would be pretty sweet, though that seems pretty unlikely

circles, Friday, 23 December 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YB0AAOSwaadiZVo0/s-l500.jpg

mh, Friday, 23 December 2022 02:50 (one year ago) link

ftx executives are flipping on bankman f so then who does he flip on whos upstream from him, tether is the obvious one, but also maybe vcs, other crypto whales idk

― lag∞n, Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:13 (yesterday) link

I'm skeptical they would cut SBF a break to get to some VC or whale. SBF is already a cartoon villain now, they need to take him down hardcore, dope on the table.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 23 December 2022 03:54 (one year ago) link

I mean to be clear, he deserves it. But I would be shocked if they give him a deal to some more powerful and less publicly known person.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 23 December 2022 03:55 (one year ago) link


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