Here's another clue for you all - GLASS ONION: A KNIVES OUT MYSTERY -- dir. Rian Johnson; Daniel Craig, Edward Norton, Kate Hudson, Dave Bautista, Janelle Monáe, etc etc

funny thing is he always struck me as phony as an actor around his American History X days but I've grown to enjoy him much more in his later career.

I thought he was the real deal as early as Primal Fear and I loved him in Everyone Says I Love You but I never thought about him twice until the late '00s.

He was fun in "Moonlight Kingdom." In some ways he's the most insufferable when he's doing Serious Acting, and the most enjoyable when he's doing silly character stuff (like this or Wes Anderson or iirc "Birdman").

yeah josh otm i feel the same way,

he was good in MOtherless Brooklyn (as an actor at least), even though the movie/adaptation wasn't good

and in The Grand Budapest Hotel.

This was our Christmas brunch movie with the kids, everyone enjoyed it. I agree it's more cartoony than the first one, although the first one was pretty silly too. The twin sister plot was creaky for sure, but it was also a relief because I was afraid for a minute that Monae was actually going to be out of the movie. I enjoyed getting to see her do so much. (Also agree she and Hudson were the clear standouts, aside from Craig.)

I don't think these are exactly great movies, but they're good entertainment. And the timing of this one hitting just as Elon Musk is showing his ass every day is pretty stellar. When Benoit Blanc goes into his rant about how Norton's character is actually just an idiot, who in the audience isn't thinking about Musk?

Thought this was a big improvement over the first, ie actually funny. Not sure it's worth any consideration beyond that but entertaining adult comedy w/ big names hamming it up is worth 2 hours of time.

I also agree he’s a better filmmaker than writer, he should get a good co-writer to punch up his scripts.

Was anyone expecting this one to be more than fun, or, for that matter, think the first one was aiming for more than fun? I thought they both were a blast, more or less grown up entertainments that are smart, unpretentious, well-made, fun for the whole family and bear (and seem designed for) repeat viewings. Couldn't ask for more, really, especially for a genre that's surprisingly hard to pull off, let alone a sequel with literally every single person watching closely, trying to figure it out in real time. It's a neat trick, surprising people perpetually primed for a surprise.

Fwiw, I thought the twin stuff was amusing for its pro forma audacity. It's such a murder mystery trope, but tackled here with some degree of novelty, imo.

yeah I enjoyed all of that, it’s definitely a movie that is mostly just celebrating the fun of its genre tropes & going a bit silly with it all

who in the audience isn't thinking about Musk?

Or Sam Bankman-Fried, or for some us Liz Truss... it's been a weird year.

We rewatched it tonight, the writing really is amazing.

Watched this tonight. MVP is the costume designer, big laugh when Craig appeared in the blue and white striped top and revealed a moment later he was wearing matching shorts.

craig’s costuming was deliriously good

So, is Blanc gay? A cameo by a Certain Star who acts as his boyfriend suggests so.

yah

that striped bathing suit was excellent

cameo by a Certain Star who acts as his boyfriend suggests so.

That plus hollering Losing My Mind to himself in the car in Knives Out.

I did enjoy Derol’s introduction of just wandering thru things with a half-full 12-pack of coronas on the beach

is there a breakdown of all the artwork?
i’d do a rewatch just to try & catch all of that

Yeah Johnson confirmed the queer Blanc a few months ago.

A particular scene in the sequel, seen by Insider, indicates that Blanc is living with a man. When asked during a press conference at the London Film Festival, whether this means the character is queer, Johnson replied: "Yes, he obviously is."

Johnson added, referring to the actor who cameos as Blanc's lover: "And there's nobody in the world I can imagine in bringing me more joy for Benoit Blanc to be with."

Rewatched Knives Out last night and Glass Onion tonight with the family; in the latter case I was the only one who had seen it already, and it passed the same test that Knives Out did for me in that the beats and moments, now that you know to look for them, all still land just right. And both films are heightened reality character types a-plenty; that’s why they land, and little surprise the ‘real’ lead in both films, carefully hidden by the marketing, is someone who comes across as an actual person who could exist (though admittedly in GO’s case we don’t get to know that person as thoroughly due to the plot mechanics, an unavoidable weakness in comparison).

I have to add this as well: there’s a certain moment I can’t discuss in GO without spoiling but let’s just say my entire family absolutely loved it because there’s someone in my family history who was saved from death in an incredibly similar circumstance. Best private unplanned in joke ever.

I thought that was something that only happened in movies/Tv!

Good piece on the artwork in the movie https://news.artnet.com/art-world/glass-onion-art-collection-production-design-2233174 I thought that the Rothko looked a bit odd.

Anyone know who did the eskimo painting with multiple ice holes? Thought it may be Miguel Calderon but seems not.

london's prince charles:
https://imgur.com/a/JgcWSM5

i mean:
https://i.imgur.com/DMW3vKo.jpg

I thought that was something that only happened in movies/Tv!

the Blanc bathing suit (and the "DONG"s) seem like Evil Under the Sun references and also good Last of Sheila vibes

haven't seen this yet so I'm trying to avoid the Ben Shapiro thread but LMAO at him complaining about the movie's "misdirection". like have you ever seen a movie before dude

Helen had her sister's diaries with her and in her room didn't she. I think she mentioned going through them. Definitely had had one in her jacket pocket so not going to be around for any further perusal.

THIS IS A NON SMOKING GARDEN

(I think I liked this even more than the first one, certainly more over-the top with the ending)

"It's a dangerous thing to mistake speaking without thought for speaking the truth" was an all time zing

And her reaction too, deciding to take it as a compliment.

THIS IS A NON SMOKING GARDEN

― sleeve, Monday, December 26, 2022

A line with resonance -- someone said it to me not long ago

PLEASE KEEP OUR WATER CLEAN ALFRED

Pretty much everything was smoking by the end innit.

lol

heh

I thought that was something that only happened in movies/Tv!

I don't know if we're talking about the same thing, but my wife's uncle got in a motorcycle accident once where it's possible the only thing that saved his leg, or at least saved it from serious damage, was the phone in his pocket, which worked as a buffer when he slid across the street. The phone was iirc shaved down in half by the friction.

Pretty much everything was smoking by the end innit.

Which is a payoff to the no-smoking garden! At first it comes off as some stupid rich tech guy affectation, but then it's revealed there's a reason there's no smoking allowed, lol.

Live footage of Ben Shapiro tweeting about why he didn't like Glass Onion. pic.twitter.com/YXXLu50Plq

— Adam Lance Garcia (@AdamLanceGarcia) December 26, 2022

i thought parts of this were pretty cringey, as the kids say. It's alright I guess.

I havent seen anyone mention it yet but the vert start where they were all invited as his "closest circle of friends" to a private island to "be normal" was a clear swipe at Kim K.

Oh! And Benoit playing "Among Us" in the bath haha that one only just occured to me.

i disliked the breaking glass climax a great deal. happy to see the mona lisa consumed though

Benoit getting even more outraged as he realizes the "only idea with panache" was actually stolen from him was A+++, so many good little bits throughout this

"my therapist says this is a toxic relationship"

Was there any point to the painting's seurity screen going up and down constantly? (other than it being quite funny).

Rian Johnson is just online (the recurrence of "pancaked" is an I Think You Should Leave reference, i bet) and just funny enough to give these movies some teeth. While Star Trek and other franchises kissed Musk's ass (and even Herzog treated him seriously in one of his docs), Johnson is apparently one of the few people in Hollywood who realized he's an idiot, with no "but my Tesla" equivocation, full stop. That combined with how truly infectious Craig and Monae's enthusiasm is made this legitimately entertaining.

I was loudly outraged by all the malapropisms throughout the movie, so it was a nice payoff when that unexpectedly delivered

xxp I think being funny is enough, but it's possibly also there to give us a fair shot at realising what's going to happen just before it does, that it's not "oh yeah the Mona Lisa, they mentioned that an hour ago"