This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2022

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I didn't review The Cathedral until last week. I"m glad I watched it.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 02:08 (one year ago) link

So is Eeyore.
― jaymc

omigod
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

Omigod x 2

and I thought Sebastian Meise's Great Freedom was really great

It’s Frank Rogowski who should be scooping up the citations this year (or last, not sure which year it counts here)

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link

I count it as a 2021 flick.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link

Another reason to strip Will Smith of his booty

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link

David Ehrlich's annual video countdown of the year is brilliant as always:

https://vimeo.com/786806921

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 09:36 (one year ago) link

Been awhile since we've had a good old-fashioned grassroots Sally Kirkland-style Oscar campaign:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/jennifer-aniston-sarah-paulson-andrea-riseborough-to-leslie-1235294300/

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 16 January 2023 14:05 (one year ago) link

Oh, and the Critics' Choice Award winners (i.e. the apex of detrius season):

https://variety.com/2023/awards/news/critics-choice-awards-2023-winners-list-1235488828/

Best Picture
“Everything Everywhere All at Once” (A24)

Best Director
Daniel Kwan and Daniel Scheinert – “Everything Everywhere All at Once” (A24)

Best Actress
Cate Blanchett – “Tár” (Focus Features)

Best Actor
Brendan Fraser – “The Whale” (A24)

Best Supporting Actress
Angela Bassett – “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” (Marvel Studios)

Best Supporting Actor
Ke Huy Quan – “Everything Everywhere All at Once” (A24)

Best Original Screenplay
Daniel Kwan, Daniel Scheinert – “Everything Everywhere All at Once” (A24)

Best Adapted Screenplay
Sarah Polley – “Women Talking” (MGM/United Artists Releasing)

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 16 January 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link

i am thinking everything everywhere is gonna win the best screenplay oscar and get locked out of everything else, which is fine i guess
any other year, yeoh would have a shot at actress

Ke Huy Quan is he surest bet among the acting categories rn

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 16 January 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link

Yeah, KHQ seems like a lock.

jaymc, Monday, 16 January 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link

I'd say it's him, then Blanchett, then Bassett, then Butler, in order of likelihood

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 16 January 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link

Butler over Farrell? I haven’t been paying much attention to awards conversation but figured Farrell would be a significant contender.

Legit it's a three-way contest still; but Butler feels pretty solid atm

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 16 January 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link

Butler has the Academy's awful history of rewarding biopics in his favor.

Farrell has the Academy's awful history of ignoring comedy against him.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 January 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link

Fraser has the Academy's awful history

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 16 January 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link

(I will have to watch it at some point, but if The Whale isn't the worst movie up for a top Oscar this year, I'll be surprised)

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 16 January 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link

at this point I'm thinking the chances for best actor are between Farrell (resolute but unshowy performance, respect for his body of work) and Fraser (sentimental and emotional performance, a comeback), and that they are both more way more likely than Butler

Dan S, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 01:32 (one year ago) link

The Whale is wore than your reckonings, my friend xpost

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 03:20 (one year ago) link

It's probably awful and I haven’t seen it, but given the sentimental gushing over the performance I’m guessing it’s not too bad a film for the Oscars.

On the other hand, most Best Actor wins don’t come from otherwise unloved films (Jeff Bridges in Crazy Heart and Forrest Whitaker in The Last King of Scotland come to mind, but they were well over a decade ago), unlike Best Actress wins

I don’t think Austin Butler is likely, he’s relatively unknown, hasn’t won any precursors so far, and Best Actor Oscars usually don’t go to handsome 30-year old men, especially for their first major roles. Adrien Brody was the only actor that age to win a Best Actor Oscar in recent memory

The narrative this year seems like it is about the comeback from obscurity - Michelle Yeoh, Angela Bassett, Brendan Fraser, and Ke Huy Kwan. Not saying they will all win, but Ke Huy Kwan definitely will

Dan S, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 01:50 (one year ago) link

Rami Malek was 37 when he won (and already had an Emmy), but might be somewhat analogous to Butler.

jaymc, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 02:04 (one year ago) link

Casey Affleck too at 41. but 30 is very young for Best Actor.

Dan S, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 02:13 (one year ago) link

anyway, I'm hoping the actors' branch comes through and Colin Farrell wins

Dan S, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 02:18 (one year ago) link

Welp, BAFTA sure loved All Quiet on the Western Front (and didn't much like Top Gun ... or, probably appropriately, RRR)

[q]BEST FILM
All Quiet on the Western Front
The Banshees of Inisherin
Elvis
Everything Everywhere All At Once
Tár

OUTSTANDING BRITISH FILM
Aftersun
The Banshees of Inisherin
Brian And Charles
Empire of Light
Good Luck to You, Leo Grande
Living
Roald Dahl's Matilda The Musical
See How They Run
The Swimmers
The Wonder

OUTSTANDING DEBUT BY A BRITISH WRITER, DIRECTOR OR PRODUCER
Aftersun
Blue Jean
Electric Malady
Good Luck to You, Leo Grande
Rebellion

FILM NOT IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE
All Quiet on the Western Front
Argentina, 1985
Corsage
Decision To Leave
The Quiet Girl

DOCUMENTARY
All That Breathes
All the Beauty and the Bloodshed
Fire of Love
Moonage Daydream
Navalny

DIRECTOR
All Quiet on the Western Front
The Banshees of Inisherin
Decision To Leave
Everything Everywhere All At Once
Tár
The Woman King

LEADING ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett in Tár
Viola Davis in The Woman King
Danielle Deadwyler in Till
Ana de Armas in Blonde
Emma Thompson in Good Luck to You, Leo Grande
Michelle Yeoh in Everything Everywhere All At Once

LEADING ACTOR
Austin Butler in Elvis
Colin Farrell in The Banshees of Inisherin
Brendan Fraser in The Whale
Daryl McCormack in Good Luck to You, Leo Grande
Paul Mescal in Aftersun
Bill Nighy in Living

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Angela Bassett in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Hong Chau in The Whale
Kerry Condon in The Banshees of Inisherin
Jamie Lee Curtis in Everything Everywhere All At Once
Dolly De Leon in Triangle of Sadness
Carey Mulligan in She Said

SUPPORTING ACTOR
Brendan Gleeson in The Banshees of Inisherin
Barry Keoghan in The Banshees of Inisherin
Ke Huy Quan in Everything Everywhere All At Once
Eddie Redmayne in The Good Nurse
Albrecht Schuch in All Quiet on the Western Front
Micheal Ward in Empire of Light

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
The Banshees of Inisherin
Everything Everywhere All At Once
The Fabelmans
Tár
Triangle of Sadness

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
All Quiet on the Western Front
Living
The Quiet Girl
She Said
The Whale[q]

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 January 2023 12:26 (one year ago) link

Seems pretty clear that The Fabelmans is quite down for the count, as is Women Talking and, arguably, Top Gun: Maverick

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 January 2023 13:49 (one year ago) link

Oh it still gets in Best Picture and Director at the Oscars.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link

It's good not bad that the BAFTAs are snubbing Spielberg

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:09 (one year ago) link

Counterpoint: It's worse they nominated McDonagh twice

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link

Someone said The Fabelmans will likely follow the Licorice Pizza nominations profile -- Picture, Director, Screenplay and nothing else. That seems sort of likely, though I think John Williams still gets in too

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link

I've been surprised by the criticism that Michelle Williams has earned in some quarters.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:47 (one year ago) link

It is, admittedly, a very mannered performance (and a good one)

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link

The Fabelmans hasn't been released in the UK yet.

jaymc, Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

Oh wait, never mind, it got a screenplay nod.

jaymc, Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

https://apnews.com/article/best-movies-2022-325b1c1493a5a95f5cb94ce577612cb6

To honor the supporting role that entertainment journalism can play in this beloved pastime, The Associated Press on Thursday unveiled its inaugural AP Top 25 Movies list.

The AP Top 25 Movies ranking is a distinctive honor roll of films released in 2022, as determined by a truly representative panel of 26 of the U.S.′ smartest movie experts working for AP-affiliated news outlets.

Here, we explain what it is and how it works:

THE HISTORY
The AP Top 25 Movies ranking is a new initiative adapted from a rich legacy. The global not-for-profit news cooperative’s AP Top 25 college football poll has been the authority in the sport since the all-media survey began in 1936.

The sports poll has since expanded, including men’s college basketball in 1949 and women’s college basketball in 1977. The AP Top 25 Movies ranking now joins this storied tradition.

The sports polls are a weekly tally tracking the evolving dynamic throughout each sport’s season of play. In contrast, the AP Top 25 Movies ranking is a single definitive list reflecting the entire 2022 calendar year.

Results aren't terribly surprising, resembling other year-end polls (Banshees is #1). But it's nice that they publish the individual ballots. What would actually be interesting is if they leaned into the college football model more and did this as a weekly poll throughout the year.

jaymc, Thursday, 19 January 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link

oy Shawn Edwards is still around?

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 January 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

Anthony Hopkins walks away with The Son playing a way-too-articulate conservative monster who urges his kid Hugh Jackman, whom he'd abandoned decades earlier, to "fucking get over it." What a latter-day renaissance for this old ham.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 January 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

I've been surprised by the criticism that Michelle Williams has earned in some quarters.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 19, 2023 7:47 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

It is, admittedly, a very mannered performance (and a good one)

― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, January 19, 2023 7:48 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

i thought she was great too! but i love a "the gleam in her eyes means she's always sort of crying" performance. i saw it with my girlfriend and her friend and they both thought she was too much

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 21 January 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link

_The Whale_ is wore than your reckonings, my friend xpost

Technically I walked out, but it’s by some measure the worst movie I’ve seen in years. Just putrid and worthless and anti-human

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 January 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link

Anti-human...like, in a bad way?

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 22 January 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link

Yes, there’s a first for everything

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 January 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link

Imagine if Cronenberg had written and directed that adaptation and even kept Fraser.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 January 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link

baby i hear the blues a calling

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 January 2023 21:53 (one year ago) link

Tossed salad (on the laptop) and scrambled eggs with fried chicken and a 3 Musketeers bar

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:07 (one year ago) link

https://icsfilm.org/our-yearly-awards/2023-ics-award-nominees/

Finally, an interesting slate of acting contenders:

ACTOR
• Colin Farrell – The Banshees of Inisherin
• Cosmo Jarvis – It Is In Us All
• Benoît Magimel – Pacifiction
• Luca Marinelli – Le Otto Montagne
• Paul Mescal – Aftersun
• Park Hae-il – Decision to Leave

ACTRESS
• Cate Blanchett – TÁR
• Vicky Krieps – Corsage
• Guslagie Malanda – Saint Omer
• Rosy McEwen – Blue Jean
• Park Ji-Min – Return to Seoul
• Tang Wei – Decision to Leave

SUPPORTING ACTOR
• Alessandro Borghi – Le Otto Montagne
• Barry Keoghan – The Banshees of Inisherin
• Ke Huy Quan – Everything Everywhere All at Once
• Achille Reggiani – Saturn Bowling
• Ingvar Sigurðsson – Godland
• Luis Zahera – As Bestas

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
• Hong Chau – Showing Up
• Kerry Condon – The Banshees of Inisherin
• Dolly de Leon – Triangle of Sadness
• Pahoa Mahagafanau – Pacifiction
• Kristen Stewart – Crimes of the Future
• Michelle Williams – The Fabelmans

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 23 January 2023 13:37 (one year ago) link

Suckass Razzie nominations:

Worst Picture
“Blonde”
“Disney’s Pinocchio”
“Good Mourning”
“The King’s Daughter”
“Morbius”

Worst Actor
Colson Baker (aka Machine Gun Kelly), “Good Mourning”
Pete Davidson (Voice Only), “Marmaduke”
Tom Hanks (As Gepetto), “Disney’s Pinocchio”
Jared Leto, “Morbius”
Sylvester Stallone, “Samaritan”

Worst Actress
Ryan Kiera Armstrong, “Firestarter”
Bryce Dallas Howard, “Jurassic Park: Dominion”
Diane Keaton, “Mack & Rita”
Kaya Scodelario, “The King’s Daughter”
Alicia Silverstone, “The Requin”

Worst Remake/Rip-off/Sequel
“Blonde”
BOTH “365 Days” Sequels – “365 Days: This Day” & “The Next 365 Days” [a Razzie BOGO]
“Disney’s Pinocchio”
“Firestarter”
“Jurassic World: Dominion”

Worst Supporting Actress
Adria Arjona, “Morbius”
Lorraine Bracco (Voice Only), “Disney’s Pinocchio”
Penelope Cruz, “The 355”
Bingbing Fan, “The 355” & “The King’s Daughter”
Mira Sorvino, “Lamborghini: The Man Behind the Legend”

Worst Supporting Actor
Pete Davidson (Cameo Role), “Good Mourning”
Tom Hanks, “Elvis”
Xavier Samuel, “Blonde”
Mod Sun, “Good Mourning”
Evan Williams, “Blonde”

Worst Screen Couple
Colson Baker (aka Machine Gun Kelly) & Mod Sun, “Good Mourning”
Both Real Life Characters in the Fallacious White House Bedroom Scene, “Blonde”
Tom Hanks & His Latex-Laden Face (and Ludicrous Accent), “Elvis”
Andrew Dominik & His Issues with Women, “Blonde”
The Two “365 Days” Sequels (both Released in 2022)

Worst Director
Judd Apatow, “The Bubble”
Colson Baker (aka Machine Gun Kelly) & Mod Sun, “Good Mourning”
Andrew Dominik, “Blonde”
Daniel Espinosa, “Morbius”
Robert Zemeckis, “Disney’s Pinocchio”

Worst Screenplay
“Blonde” / Written for the Screen by Andrew Dominik, Adapted from the “Bio-Novel” by Joyce Carol Oates
“Disney’s Pinocchio” / Screenplay by Robert Zemeckis & Chris Weitz (Not Authorized by the Estate of Carlo Collodi)
“Good Mourning” / “Written” by Machine Gun Kelly & Mod Sun
“Jurassic World: Dominion” / Screenplay by Emily Carmichael & Colin Treverrow,Story by Treverrow & Derek Connolly
“Morbius” / Screen Story and Screenplay by Matt Sazama & Burk Sharpless

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link

Both Real Life Characters in the Fallacious White House Bedroom Scene, “Blonde”

Surely "fellacious"?

jaymc, Monday, 23 January 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link

What a fellacy on the Razzies' part

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link

This is now the most I’ve wanted to see Blonde.

Chris L, Monday, 23 January 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link

Was hoping Ana de Armas would get simultaneous Oscar and Razzie nomination, like Glenn Close for Hillbilly Elegy

jaymc, Monday, 23 January 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link

Their bravery knows many bounds

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 23 January 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link


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