is New York City dead?

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Preferable to the artist version of Warren Ellis that's for sure.

Evan, Monday, 16 January 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link

https://linktr.ee/got2gonyc

, Monday, 16 January 2023 21:00 (one year ago) link

guggteens

Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 January 2023 21:47 (one year ago) link

It was a miracle we got out of there alive

calstars, Monday, 16 January 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link

Is the NYC Ballet dead? Has the ABT overtaken it?

youn, Monday, 16 January 2023 23:24 (one year ago) link

Nick Cave was exactly what we showed up before open to see only to realize it's all timed now.

That said, we wound up at Theaster Gates at New Museum which was fucking incredible. And also ate some very good tamales.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 16 January 2023 23:28 (one year ago) link

i need to see that theaster gates show

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 02:04 (one year ago) link

co-sign the exhibit at the new museum, it was excellent. on saturdays, there’s an organ performance, which was really moving

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 03:35 (one year ago) link

yeah I was sad I didn't get to see the organ performance. I walked in and saw that organ and the seven fucking leslie speakers on the wall and went up to the guard and was like "please tell me someone plays this"

The film was incredible.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 04:17 (one year ago) link

"If we can talk about erectile dysfunction but not clitoral stimulation, then something is wrong," @NYCMayor says.

— Annie McDonough (@Annie_McDonough) January 17, 2023

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

beg your pardon

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link

stopped clock moment

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

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The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

what

calstars, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

That whole thread is pretty great; Adams’ randomly firing synapses spat out some real damonds.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link

he is extremely trumplike in many ways
probably (for better and worse) the least effective/politically engaged mayor i've seen in 20+ years here

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link

The Sammy's Halal at madison sq has replaced the homemade garlic/cilantro/secret ingredients green sauce with fucking bottle mexican habenero hot sauce. New York City is official dead. To me at least.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

Is the NYC Ballet dead? Has the ABT overtaken it?
― youn, Monday, January 16, 2023

in terms of popularity i guess you mean? City Ballet is still getting ink and just poached a major choreographer
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/05/arts/dance/alexei-ratmansky-new-york-city-ballet.html

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link

Hmm at that url.

Cry for a Shadowgraph (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 January 2023 13:10 (one year ago) link

good article but it feels like it wants another month’s worth of reporting on it

Tracer Hand, Friday, 27 January 2023 23:44 (one year ago) link

that's right.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 January 2023 05:23 (one year ago) link

it's an issue in general with New York Mag verticals reporting; you get often a sense that the budget cuts out and the piece is due, full stop.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 January 2023 05:24 (one year ago) link

Yeah 100% agree, conclusion is kind of incomplete/unsatisfying

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 28 January 2023 05:25 (one year ago) link

when your last graf begins “Look, maybe all my suspicions are baseless” it’s probably a sign

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 28 January 2023 10:59 (one year ago) link

Y'all. I sometimes have to be in LIC right at the 21st St-Queensbridge stop on the F train. There's a halal cart right across the intersection on 21st Street, and it was PHENOMENAL. The rice was spiced with actual spices! The meat was, like, actually barbecued! I don't know what to say. Get the mixed platter. Get the felafel too. And it was only $8 ($9 with felafel). Which is two bucks cheaper than the brick and mortar place across the street, which is also WORSE.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Saturday, 28 January 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link

A (badass) Latina construction worker was in front of me, and an adorable skateboarding teen behind me recommended the green sauce if I wanted just a little spice (not the red sauce, on my life, I know better). NYC: We will feed you.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Saturday, 28 January 2023 16:05 (one year ago) link

this is important reporting, thank you

i went to the former eisenberg's for lunch the other day, now known as S&P and run by the court street grocers people. in general i disdain fancy sandwiches but court street is very good and so is S&P! had a reasonably-sized (ie consumable by one person for lunch) pastrami sandwich and an egg cream. the interior is almost entirely preserved from the eisenberg's days and the menu is largely unreconstructed midcentury lunch counter fare--health salad, cream cheese and olive sandwiches (also very good).

anyway it feels like a recognition of changing tastes (vis a vis sourcing and thoughtful preparation) and neighborhood realities but also like a work of historical preservation, both aesthetic and culinary. it was packed so i hope its success sparks a trend.

adam, Saturday, 28 January 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link

I need try S+P, reviews have been glowing

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 January 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link

Fly @Eagles Fly! We’re going Green and White in honor of the Eagles NFC Championship Victory. pic.twitter.com/RNiwbCIkt7

— Empire State Building (@EmpireStateBldg) January 29, 2023

mookieproof, Monday, 30 January 2023 03:14 (one year ago) link

i went to the former eisenberg's for lunch the other day, now known as S&P and run by the court street grocers people. in general i disdain fancy sandwiches but court street is very good and so is S&P! had a reasonably-sized (ie consumable by one person for lunch) pastrami sandwich

I had that sandwich, and the tuna melt too, both were fine, but neither good enough for me to make a point of going back.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 30 January 2023 03:19 (one year ago) link

yeah I tried reading that curbed article but gave up after about 1000 words into the USPS digression, just bad editing

k3vin k., Monday, 30 January 2023 03:42 (one year ago) link

dropped the kid off to go to "meet the breeds" at javits center with aunt, leaving wife and myself time to kill/enjoy by ourselves and after much debate about where to eat and trying to find somewhere open early enough that had outdoor seating I realized I didn't have to go far. We went to Kossars right below hudson yards and got bialys and bagels, then we went to Daily Provisions and got the crullers, which, if you haven't had a daily provision cruller, you have no idea just how good something can taste. Then we got lunch at Mercardo Little Spain, feeling glad to give my money to Jose Andres for all his good, rather than Eataly and Batalli.

Point is? Kossar bialy breakfast sandwich, daily provision crullers, new york is most certainly not dead. If you can afford it.

What is dead is the giant suicide machine in the center of hudson yards.

dan selzer, Monday, 30 January 2023 04:14 (one year ago) link

Assuming you’re asking for real, that is a much discussed and much hated art piece that did in fact become something of a suicide machine.

It is also a good visual symbol of the vortex of awfulness that is Hudson Yards. I have a relative who lives in one of those new buildings - they won a rent lottery. The building is massive and had a basketball court and an arcade and a gym and various other amenities and feels sort of like a luxury dorm/student center. The whole neighborhood feels like a mall and then there’s an actual mall within the mall.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 30 January 2023 13:17 (one year ago) link

Oh sorry I misread that as “what is the deal with” not “what is dead”

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 30 January 2023 13:17 (one year ago) link

Dan that sounds like a great day. I’m saving Kossars on my map, I love me a bialy

calstars, Monday, 30 January 2023 13:24 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I know all about the suicide schwarma. What a sign of late-capitalism or whatever. My wife works in museum education and we talk about access issues a lot as well and she was like, any consultant could've said "this is a bad idea!"

The fact that it stands there like that now, is just embarrassing. At a certain point the bottom was open so you can walk inside it, but you can't walk up it now. My suggestion? Make it a home for art installations. Let artists put sculptures all over it or something.

We checked out all the restaurants in the mall there and the area and they all look really nice and somewhat hip, but on closer inspection, the menus were really boring. Kinda figure the types of wealthy people flocking to live in hudson yards, which is now definitely a community with things like drug stars, I imagine they're kind of on the basic side. Rich and basic. Last time I was in hudson yards there wasn't much residential action going on.

Little Spain was great though. They have these empenadas which are like big flat spanish pies, that are delicious.

One good thing about hudson yards and it's mall? Plentiful and easily accessible clean bathrooms.

dan selzer, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

Have to remember this last the next time I take a bike up to get the 7 train.

drug stars
So NYC is not dead!

The Big O RLY (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 January 2023 14:37 (one year ago) link

ha oops. drug stores obv.

dan selzer, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link

Make it a home for art installations. Let artists put sculptures all over it or something.

Or maybe they could plant with all kinds of exotic trees and plants - kind of a hanging garden.

o. nate, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link

That'd be cool. It's pretty sterile around there.

dan selzer, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link

"what was this place daddy"

daddy 3000 years into the future: "it was a place of worship, little jimmy"

"what did they worship?"

"shopping, little jimmy"

Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link

I know I’m in the minority but I love the mall there, getting lost and going up and down escalators and down the long shiny hallways. I guess I could take or leave the Schwarma. to me it looks like a transformer ready to unfurl into a giant robot and wreak havoc on the buildings

calstars, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link

i started going to kossar's on delancey back when it was staffed by a bunch of surly dudes, then they got expansion brained and are following the russ and daughters playbook. every time i've walked by the delancey location post-reno it's been mobbed. there is a lot of money pouring into the les too, every building it seems has massive scaffolding on it right now. i usually just go to manousheh's instead, across from the tj's.

, Monday, 30 January 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link

I hate paying a premium for the "story" behind an eatery. No more meta-eateries.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link

i dunno, those places are still tasty!

dan selzer, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link

sure, Russ and Daughters is v good, it's just expensive for what it is imo.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link

Fortunately Barney Greengrass still looks like it hasn't been remodeled since the 1980s.

o. nate, Monday, 30 January 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link


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