i don’t think anyone’s feelings could get hurt over the piss being taken so poorly loli mean, that whole thing was just “wuh?”
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link
Oh yeah, it was a deeeesaster.
― trishyb, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
ok almost all of that Snatch Game was wtf but the untucked was really good?
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 January 2023 05:24 (one year ago) link
it’s no secret this show suffered from bloat in recent seasons but the 1 hour edits this season are pretty off putting … it has the effect of making the episodes feel like a series of marks to be hit. the inspirational personal story segment felt especially shoehorned in this episode. the runways have been truncated all season. no mini challenges. it’s like watching the show on 1.5 speed. doing 2 diff snatch games in one episode would be a lot in a previous season but in this format it left a lot to be desired. the consultations with ru are often the best parts of snatch game episodes, just completely removed in this one. can’t imagine an extra 15 mins would kill MTV
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 21 January 2023 05:52 (one year ago) link
yeah it feels very FINE HERE’S YER SLOP of course here i am still watching anyway
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 January 2023 06:25 (one year ago) link
the best things about this episode was1) untucked and2 pitstop w Bianca & Adore <3
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 January 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link
yeah not loving shorter episodes at all, which is weird because the old format could feel like a drag at times
but they’re cutting the parts that made this show special. anticipation of the snatch game, ru sabotaging, queens changing their minds at the last minute
the actual snatch game edit was weird too. we hardly saw sasha at all?
we somehow skipped all stars 2 and watching it now and it’s funny how pitstop used to be like 10 min long
as for the bottom two i said to husband, this is their chance to have the twins lipsync and sure enough. the untucked was essential context this time and really went a long way to show the twins in a more sympathetic way.
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 21 January 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
loved the pit crew being involved though. we need a pit crew makeover challenge!
― scanner darkly, Saturday, 21 January 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link
yeah that was fun having the pit crew involved
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 January 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link
Yeah Untucked & Pit Stop were definitely necessary this time around. Whoof.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 January 2023 01:02 (one year ago) link
But also agreed on Pit Crew involvement, that was overdue and well done!
But anyway throwing in those extras
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP9wX5Wz-fk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz9sv0frhR0
Also earlier this week, a forever champion continuing greatness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBV6hD44hbs
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 January 2023 01:03 (one year ago) link
Oh and I was lax -- RuView from last time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPXArFM-bA
And Willam and Alaska in turn:
https://megaphone.link/FODP4257049036
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 January 2023 01:05 (one year ago) link
I just rewatched the Pit Stop with Adore again because it really is so good. There are very few people who can say "NO!" and somehow still have me laughing about it five minutes later.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 January 2023 02:26 (one year ago) link
And she brings out the best in Bianca imo … I like them both so much when they’re together
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 January 2023 05:20 (one year ago) link
Sugar's name necklace is very similar to the necklace that Shah Rukh Khan wears in the 1998 classic Kuch Kuch Hota Hai, except his says "COOL" because he's cool. When my obsessions collide.https://images.news18.com/ibnlive/uploads/2018/10/kuch-kuch-hota-hai2.jpg
― trishyb, Sunday, 22 January 2023 23:07 (one year ago) link
OMG <3
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 January 2023 00:50 (one year ago) link
I dunno, I'm having the opposite reaction to this season. I've been exhausted by the longer format and a return to 40-minute length has been a lot more effective in keeping my attention (granted I've noticed that my capacity for patience has really gotten shallow for everything lately). Is it formulaic about hitting marks? Sure, but I also think that the twins talking about Untucked were just as pro forma and more to the point turning trauma into reality tv currency in order to fit it into the usual narratives (I fully admit that this might just be my bourgie distaste for airing familial drama in public).
― Rabbity Gainsborough (Leee), Monday, 23 January 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link
I will now start a fight with you to increase ratings.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link
i didn't realize until this weekend that they shortened the episodes not out of any creative inspiration but just so that they could use drag race as a lead in to real friends of west hollywood while sandwiching it with untucked in an attempt, i guess, to hold the drag race audience hostage. bad!
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 January 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link
Very bad! Willam and Alaska, Willam in particular, has been calling this out on the podcast for a few weeks now.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link
i watched all of last season standing in a jam packed bar i'm really sympathetic to the notion that the episodes were too lengthy but now i feel mad on principal aside from the fact that the show was noticeably losing some of its verve w/ the truncated runway edits & such. i think last week it was really noticeable bcuz they managed to accomplish the trick of double feeding us snatch game while simultaneously getting rid of all the stuff that actually made snatch game interesting (the parts leading up to it)
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 January 2023 21:27 (one year ago) link
thinking about it more i think what was wearing on me was less the length of the episodes & more the length of the seasons. between the double premiere, no one going home until episode 4 and chocolate bar stuff last season it just felt like a bit of a sick joke. but i think when it comes to watching a discreet episode i want the extra 15 minutes
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 January 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link
i will say that i feel swept up in the intense backlash to the west hollywood show & todrick hall in particular w/o having watched any of it just bcuz i now suspect that MTV's entire reason for picking up drag race was to try and use it to start its own real housewives franchise? it's funny bcuz i couldn't picture myself felling protective of drag race at this juncture but it all feels very offensive to me on like a molecular level
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 January 2023 21:34 (one year ago) link
I know nothing of this (except what I read on Tom and Lorenzo), but I thought Todrick Hall was firmly cancelled for, among other things, not paying dancers?
― trishyb, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
xpost Agreed on all that. Willam's mentioned things like how half the cast are in the Valley anyway (typical, I figure) and apparently something how one almost cast member was denied because of their onlyfans? If I'm remembering that right.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
todrick hall was cancelled online but not cancelled when you're trying to make a TV show about semi famous gay men in LA and you need to find a headliner who is maybe a little bit more famous than the rest of them. but it seems that MTV is learning the hard way that the intended audience for this show really does not fuck w/ todrick hall
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 January 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link
I think this show is over, pretty decisively
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 01:53 (one year ago) link
Drag Race or WeHo?
(both, of course)
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 02:21 (one year ago) link
WeHo was over before it even started
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 12:59 (one year ago) link
As a WOW subscriber, I feel I should be entitled to longer episodes than MTV viewers are getting.
― trishyb, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, January 23, 2023 8:53 PM (yesterday)
i wanna feel this way but symone & willow pill are two of the greatest queens to ever appear on the show & basically justify the entire enterprise even as it's become a borderline intolerable parody of itself in many ways. elevating two performers w/ that kinda charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent is more than you could say for many hollywood or television studios let alone reality shows in their 15th season. but it doesn't feel like that kinda person is present in this season, so maybe you're right
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link
Agree with all that; at worst, it's still around as a very popular vehicle to launch great personalities. But the show itself is ... just rote and in need of some kind of big shakeup.
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link
I think the following two points are probably (definitely) tied together but a) Ru needs to step down and let someone co-host/lead the show and b) they need to greatly expand their parameters of their still-too-narrow aesthetic - Willow Pill and Sharon Needles should not still be outliers
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link
I guess Willow Pill is not an aesthetic outlier as much as a personality thing but you get the gist
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:04 (one year ago) link
there are so many drag queens I know of, both local and IG-famous, who I'd love to see compete but will never get a shot in this current environment
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
i'm seeing willow perform on friday...
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link
I can get on board with the "The show is too focused on glamor" train -- that's been the biggest source of enervation for me (not to mention the wallets of the contestants).
― Rabbity Gainsborough (Leee), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 22:19 (one year ago) link
my worry is that with the new format/provider they’ll lose all the wonderful stupidity that made the show great in the first place
― scanner darkly, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 03:37 (one year ago) link
Michelle Visage has spent so much time in London that she was seen eating spotted dick on the left side of the road.
― Rabbity Gainsborough (Leee), Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link
Roffle.
Oh and update time -- RuView!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWdKr81ZK_g
And Willam and Alaska:
https://megaphone.link/FODP4242606848
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 January 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
So a better episode this week. Even the quick clips of the reading challenge was smart.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 January 2023 05:11 (one year ago) link
lol I think I must be in Bizzaroworld because THIS last episode felt too compressed!
― John Mayer McCheese (Leee), Monday, 30 January 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link
Ha! It all goes around:
Pit Stop w/Detox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDSqorytQo
Whatcha Packin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXVk54zBz_c
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 January 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link
the latest photo fashion ruview was very funny in that it was the opposite of what the judges said on pretty much everything
― scanner darkly, Friday, 3 February 2023 02:54 (one year ago) link
Haha true. And here's that link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsq0az7m7mY
https://megaphone.link/FODP4702877822
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 February 2023 03:01 (one year ago) link
This episode felt timekillery but at least we're still winnowing down. Untucked with the Old Gays was the best part.
Pit Stop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHrMFX1umBg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHj6IMjvhtU
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 February 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link
maybe i’d have less of an issue with shorter episodes if they didn’t spend half of the time having an argument over who gets the metal song and the rest of the time talking about the argument
― scanner darkly, Sunday, 5 February 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link
otmseriously fucking kill meand then the same rehashed argument in untucked ffsalso loooool @ marcia thinking she was in the top for a) no old-age makeup and b) that fucking runway look are u joking
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 February 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link
Ancillary note but this was fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HvD8gaehF4
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 February 2023 22:51 (one year ago) link