This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2022

Oscars got it right in that "Maverick" is without question the Best "Top Gun" Picture.

No song nomination for James Murphy

Nominations here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/95th_Academy_Awards

Is it also the first time that two "part two"s were nominated in a single year?

― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Tuesday, January 24, 2023 8:08 AM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think so, yeah. AFAIK, only seven sequels have been nominated before: The Bells of St. Mary's (1945), both Godfather sequels (1974, 1990), both Lord of the Rings sequels (2002, 2003), Toy Story 3 (2010), and Mad Max: Fury Road (2015).

I'm glad Williams made it after all.

Guess I have to finish Triangle of Sadness and watch All Quiet on the Western Front.

Another stat: Blanchett's the only Oscar winner among the nominees; only Williams, Bassett, and Hirsch were previously nominated.

Add to the two sequels a remake, just to sweeten the pot

I kept getting twitter spammed by netflix with All Quiet... on my phone to the point of irritation, find it hard to muster any enthusiasm for bang average, worthy-dull looking war movies. It might not be, but that's what it seemed like to me when I bailed out after 10 mins.

Next year's BP pool: Least promising Sequel/Remake/Franchise/IP-based flick of 2023

And whatever else the original isn't dull.

Huh

Not sure if I’ll watch the ceremony, but you never know

over/under?

Surprised She Said didn't get picture/screenplay/actress nominations. I guess I hope Tár wins, but no real rooting interest. Same day that the baseball HOF results will be announced; that must mean something.

the Menu got totally shut out, which is lame considering fucking Avatar and Top Gun got nominated for best picture.

Some trivia:

-John Williams, at 90, is now the oldest-ever Oscar nominee, for The Fablemans score (was James Ivory, 89, for Call Me by Your Name script)

-Judd Hirsch has the longest gap between nominations, at 42 years between Ordinary People and The Fablemans (was Henry Fonda, 41 years between The Grapes of Wrath and On Golden Pond)

the Menu got totally shut out, which is lame considering fucking Avatar and Top Gun got nominated for best picture.

Something I kept meaning to post somewhere -- I was really intrigued/surprised to see that The Menu had massive legs, at least in my neck of the woods. End of the year at my local Alamo was essentially only Avatar, Babylon (which had just gotten released) and The Menu, and in the latter case we're talking multiple screenings a day throughout the day. All the other November films of any stripe, big or small, were long gone.

I did sort of think The Menu might land a surprise screenplay nomination, but alas

Surprised She Said didn't get picture/screenplay/actress nominations

Its overall chances faded quite a while ago. It probably had the best shot at a screenplay nomination, and might've gotten it if not for the All Quiet on the Western Front momentum.

The Menu's been playing at Miami multiplexes since Thanksgiving. Several students have watched it, which, given their usual inclinations, surprised me.

(xpost) Besides just the fact that I liked it, I would have thought it nicely fits Hollywood's and the Academy Awards' eagerness to embrace self-flagellation (A Star Is Born, Sunset Boulevard, The Player, etc., etc.).

There's plenty of alternatives this (and every year) ... on a related note, big LOL at Women Talking getting into best picture with one single other nomination

xp I liked it, too. After its release, there was a weird amount of focus on its disappointing box-office numbers, which may have stifled its campaign.

We're in a world where The Menu, at something like $38M in domestic grosses, is considered a "success"

Neither of my kids have seen Top Gun or Avatar, but one of them has seen The Menu twice.

The Menu depends on you hating rich people enough to ignore that the movie is dumb and doesn't make sense; seems to be working.

idk it's also funny

I would have enjoyed The Menu a lot more if it had been dumber tbh

A lot of handwringing these days over what even is satire

i think more than a send-up of the rich or whatever it's a depiction of how hollow any artform becomes once its reached a rarified enough air that its audience is snobs, dilettantes, and people with so much money they don't care about what they're consuming. a good companion piece with pig which people also found dumb and nonsensical so fair enough. nicholas hault gives a perfectly abhorrent performance and i love the scene where he has to make his own dish and it sucks ass

it's not on my year-end list or anything but idk, it was fun, i loled

for a minute I srsly thought you were writing about Triangle of Sadness, lol

brad otm

“Rich people are deluded and stupid” is the plot du jour for sure, so much that films are forgetting to move to step two

Which is to say I saw a preview screening of When You’re Done Saving the World. Eisenberg likely has a good movie in him but this isn’t it

Yeah, Brad otm. I thought the fact that they were rich was almost incidental. It's a broader (in every sense) critique of a class of people that includes but is not limited to the rich. I mean, there's no real indication that Hault is necessarily rich, just that this (final) meal is how he chose to prioritize his money. Also worth keeping in the mind that the staff, too, is insane/enthralled, part of the same elitist system that causes the chef to snap (albeit in the most snobby, elitist way).

Apparently I'll give almost any satire the comparative benefit of the doubt. I didn't even hate Don't Look Up, in its entirety.

it was entertaining enough for a night at the movies but i thought it was trying to punch way above its weight with what it was Trying To Say, i found the critiques unsatisfying and not v coherent (in other words nothocked to see Adam McKay's name in the credits.) overall a lot less fun than a movie about a homicidal haute cuisine chef should have been. would have been much more enjoyable and a sharper satire imo if it had let itself be a blumhouse b movie about wealthy people getting offed one by one in creative restaurant-related ways. isnt there some famous saying about what should be done with the rich?

I think that's the movie many expected.

TIL that any and every sequel or pseudo-sequel can get nominated only for Best Adapted Screenplay, not Best Original Screenplay.

I've had a couple friends prefer The Menu to Tar among rich-privileged-people-are-bastards movies. The latter, I guess, makes its obvious points in a crisper way; it's obvious why it's the far bigger hit.

The latter or the former?

Ha! The Menu, sorry.

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^^^ I've wanted to watch that one for years

you might need a trigger warning if you are a dog owner!

pics of Robert Morley make me smile

https://i.imgur.com/QCDSrvv.png

The Menu was very enjoyable and completely ridiculous and made no sort of sense and I enjoyed it a great deal and thought it made some decent points (and a few very glib ones) - I went into the cinema with no expectations and walked out thinking "what the fuck have I just seen?" and sometimes that's more than enough.

THE MENU sucked, prestige TV ass bullshit

also brad the overwhelming consensus about the cheeseburger is that it looked really awesome

Have not seen The Menu, but I enjoyed Triangle of Sadness. Sure, it makes obvious points about class and wealth, but the characters are fun, and the narrative is artfully constructed.

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