I've never been that into TOOM or L&T (in fact TOOM is the only Dylan studio album of original material that I've never listened to in full, and one of the few I've never owned)... don't mean to be challopsy, as these are obv critical & fan favorites, they just don't press too many buttons for me.
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:22 (one year ago) link
How would you know, if you’ve not listened to them in full?
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:25 (one year ago) link
Oh, L&T I have (many times)... just TOOM. I didn't dig the singles, the sound... even the title and album cover put me off (shallow as that may be). I gave it another go with this remix or whatever, but the songs just aren't my kind of thing.
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:27 (one year ago) link
What do you dislike about L&T?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:37 (one year ago) link
I dunno, I just don't like the style of the songs that much... it's a boring listen for me ("Mississippi" aside). I don't really start locking in with Bob again until Together Through Life. It's all good...
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link
It's the same production!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link
It's the songs, man! Not Jack Frost's icy knob-twiddling...
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:49 (one year ago) link
I mean, if "Summer Days" and "Lonesome Day" and "Sugar Baby" did nothing for ya...
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:51 (one year ago) link
FWIW, with Time Out of Mind, the version I usually listened to has a few personal tweaks: I replaced "Cold Irons Bound" with this version from Masked and Anonymous (his touring band though by this time David Kemper had been replaced by George Receli), I replaced "Make You Feel My Love" with "Red River Shore" from disc one of The Bootleg Series Vol. 8: Tell Tale Signs (though to be fair, I like hearing that song on Adele's 19), and I replaced "Can't Wait" with the early version, also from the same disc on BS Vol. 8: TTS, but I trimmed off the brief dialogue heard at the start. It really improved the back half for me, so as much as I love Time Out of Mind, I have to admit that what I enjoy isn't really what was released.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 00:59 (one year ago) link
I'll also add that I think Love & Theft is the better album and would not change anything about it.
I sometimes rate Dylan albums by how funny they are and Together Through Life is corny as fuck and L&T is a top 3 funny Dylan album.
― Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 02:08 (one year ago) link
I mean the way he sings "must have been Don Paquale making a 2AM booty call" - that's amore.
"The size of your cock will get you nowhere" from "Black Rider" is hysterical.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 02:31 (one year ago) link
this sidebar inspired me to go back to love + theft for the first time since it was new and i'm pleasantly surprised! the second half is way better than i remembered and the ballads! awww, sweetheart bob!
― "i'm grateful." (Austin), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 02:53 (one year ago) link
exclamation marks!
― "i'm grateful." (Austin), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 02:54 (one year ago) link
I'd be inclined to say that "LOVE & THEFT" is the best new Dylan LP of the century, along with ROUGH & ROWDY WAYS - which feels, I suppose, more ambitious, more risky, maybe is ultimately even greater ... But the fun-loving cigar-chewing whisky-glugging joke-telling qualities of "L&T" seem plain.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 09:35 (one year ago) link
I don't think I've ever found much "humor" in Dylan, once you get past, say, the Blonde on Blonde era (and not counting some of the bizarre humor on The Basement Tapes).
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link
Romeo, he said to Juliet, “You got a poor complexionIt doesn’t give your appearance a very youthful touch”Juliet said back to Romeo, “Why don’t you just shove offIf it bothers you so much”
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link
Yeah Love and Theft is full of jokes
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link
"Othello told Desdemona, 'I'm cold, cover me with a blanket/ By the way, what happened to that poison wine?"/ She says, "I gave it to you, you drank it."
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
Guess I should revisit L&T
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
100 Funny Bob Dylan Moments
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link
I really like Modern Times but it doesn't seem to get the love
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:54 (one year ago) link
"Ain't Talkin'"'s my favorite of his recent Long Doomy Album Closers.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link
Modern Times may be my favorite Dylan album. I certainly listen to it more than any of his peak-era '60s records. And Alfred otm re: "Ain't Talkin'."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:03 (one year ago) link
"I was WUUUN-der-in where in the WOOORLD alicia KEEEEYs could BEEEEE" is one of my fav Dylan funny lines
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link
I don't think I've ever found much "humor" in Dylan
you may be a preacher, full of spiritual pride. might be a city councilman, taking bribes on the side. you might be working in a barbershop: you may know how to cut hair.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link
i rode with himin a taxi onceonly for a mile and a halfseemed like it took a couple of monnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnths
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
and WHEN HE DIED! i was HOPING! that it WASN'T CONTAGIOUS!
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link
well i dunno which is worse:doing your own thingor just being cool
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link
(sorry. should be in the other thread.)
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
You're gonna need my hel,p sweetHEARTyou can't make looooove all bah yourselffff
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
l+t in partic does have a lot of direct actual "jokes", some of which he deliberately overnudges-- "i'm stark naked but i don't care / i'm goin off into the woods / i'm... HUNTIN... BAAAARE"-- but also as ever his delivery of "normal" lines can be exhilaratingly funny-- "i see your loverman coming / coming across the barren field / well he's not a gentleman at all / he's ROTTEN to the core / he's a COWARD and he / STEALLLLLLSSSZZZSZSSZ"
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
that stealllzzzzee might be my favorite Dylan pronunciation of the new century
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link
In other words, morrisp, you can't separate Dylan's humor from his delivery. Like any joke, really.
Well, you're certainly making the case!
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link
last night the wind was whisperini was trying to make out what it wasyeah last night the wind was whisperin somethini was tryin to make out what it waswell i tell myself “something’s coming”but itnever does!!!
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link
I guess my humor is more on the "Make love to Elizabeth Taylor, catch hell from Richard Burton" level
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, February 1, 2023 11:23 AM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
you gotta serve somebody has so many weirdly matter of fact lines like that which are super funny to me
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link
a classic with the setup/punch rhythm of standup:
they say i shot a man named gray,and took his wife to italy.she inherited a million bucks,and when she died,it came to me.i can't help itif i'm lucky.
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 2 February 2023 00:22 (one year ago) link
^Yeah, forgot about that one
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Thursday, 2 February 2023 00:36 (one year ago) link
I got a cravin’ love for blazing speedGot a hopped up Mustang FordJump into the wagon, love, throw your panties overboardI can write you poems, make a strong man lose his mindI’m no pig without a wigI hope you treat me kindThings are breakin’ up out thereHigh water everywhere
I mean, with his really over-top-delivery, this is pretty funny coming from a 56 year old
― Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Thursday, 2 February 2023 01:11 (one year ago) link
I’m a little torn on the de-Lanois-ing, in part, because I think when that pairing is at its best, it’s exceptional and I don’t think you can take him out of those recordings. For instance, while it was nice to hear some alternate versions of “Most of the Time” on Tell-Tale Signs, the best is absolutely still the completed track on Oh Mercy!, which is an All-Time Bob Song for me. I actually notice the Lanois (and de-Lanois) effect a little bit less on Time Out of Mind and Fragments. Not sure how different I find it but the remix of “Highlands” sounds pretty great.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:33 (one year ago) link
Ah well, it's been a good run.
Bob Dylan’s Bootleg Series Is ‘Definitely Winding Down’
― birdistheword, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link
We don’t have a lot of good tapes of the ’78 tour,” says the source. “There’s something coming. The ’78 tour will be revisited at some point in the future. I’m not at liberty to say how.”
there day 1 for at budokan bootleg series
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:35 (one year ago) link
Who's the "source" quoted throughout that piece – Rosen himself?
What's funny is, despite the expectation-setting, he does seem to tease at least three(?) likely forthcoming sets...
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Friday, 3 February 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
I'm guessing the '78 tour may have a videotaped show, so maybe a documentary film? They seem to like making those, as they did with the Rolling Thunder Revue and the evangelical shows.
― birdistheword, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
He seems to specifically rule that out? (“I wish there was a movie,” says the source. “But there’s very little footage.”)
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Friday, 3 February 2023 22:02 (one year ago) link
ah, never mind then!
― birdistheword, Friday, 3 February 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link
(Probably should've read the whole article rather than lazily read what they displayed behind the paywall.)
Yeah, I'm at a loss what it could be if they don't have many good tapes. Without footage, it sounds like the best you could do is release another live album or show. If they were willing to update Street-Legal with a remix, I can see another 1978 live album as a corrective to the disappointing Budokan.
― birdistheword, Friday, 3 February 2023 22:14 (one year ago) link