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I passingly looked at some listicles of all Floyd songs ranked last night and Two Suns in the Sunset was at the back end of all of them. Boo to this :-(

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 5 March 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9SKH5rF_c0

gotta say rick wright's '90s solo effort broken china is kinda dope!!! pino on bass! sinéad o'connor sings lead on two songs including this one!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 5 March 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

i appreciate that is this the life we really want? is not afraid to sound like classic floyd. “picture that” being a “sheep” rip-off felt downright refreshing

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, March 5, 2023 9:26 AM

this makes me want to start a new thread— when artists plagiarize themselves: victimless crime or no?

.austinuos, plug forth. (Austin), Sunday, 5 March 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link

this makes me want to start a new thread— when artists plagiarize themselves: victimless crime or no?

― .austinuos, plug forth. (Austin)

saul zaentz to thread

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 5 March 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link

I'm still not recovered from the claim made in this thread that The Final Cut is the best Pink Floyd album. will definitely come up in therapy this week.

when artists plagiarize themselves

Isn't that basically the John Fogerty story?

nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 March 2023 22:32 (one year ago) link

this is going to make no sense but: if the wall is the soundtrack to being grounded, the Final Cut is the soundtrack to reform school

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Sunday, 5 March 2023 23:01 (one year ago) link

gotta say rick wright's '90s solo effort broken china is kinda dope!!!

An acquaintance is in a Floyd tribute group and plays one of the songs from Broken China, I guess for the real fans.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 6 March 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link

I had a dream about Pink Floyd last night.

I was invited(?) to join Roger Waters, Rick Wright and Nick Mason (no Gilmour) in rehearsing some Syd Barrett tunes. For some reason the rehearsals were being held in my mother's bedroom in Paisley.

Waters had brought tapes and videos of two Syd songs he wanted to play - neither of which had ever existed outside of this dream - and had a list of some other songs he wanted to work on, none of which I recognized but I remember thinking included some Bob Dylan songs. Waters promptly disappeared downstairs leaving me to try to work out the songs on my own. Mason started setting up his drumkit and Wright, who didn't appear to have brought any equipment, stood at the window with his hands his pockets looking out at the car park outside my mother's house.

The verse of the first song had a D shape which slid up to an E - though I was unsure if the E was major and minor. The chorus went from A to G with maybe an E minor thrown in. There was also a one string descending part that I was having trouble working out. I said to Mason, "Where's Roger?", because he'd been away a long time, and he replied, "Oh he'll be back". At this stage I should point out Waters had a beard but looked very like he looks now, Mason was kind of 90s Nick Mason, Wright was pure 70s.

Mason had started taking about the King's Tower in the British Library and how he had been allowed in it in the 60s - which is impossible as it wasn't built till 1997. I remember wondering if he'd ever played drums inside it when he said that more recently he'd been recorded playing drums there for "that soundtrack". By this time, Waters was back and was sprawled on an armchair: shirt open, hairy chest. "You couldn't play there now", he said to Mason. "Why not", said Mason. "Because trade unions have objected to the tower", said Waters.

I was concentrating on learning the song when I became aware Waters and Wright were having a heated argument about something or other, standing up and shouting at each other. Next thing Waters has grabbed Wright by his jacket - Wright was wearing a kind of yellow satin tour jacket - and ripped it right across the chest. He then made some kind of sarcastic comment like, "Now it's about ripped tour jackets". We then all, as one it seemed, turned round to see that Mason had vanished and taken his drumkit with him....

... and that's as much as I remember.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 08:02 (one year ago) link

Sounds pretty plausible to me. Pink Floyd: The Lost British Library Tapes

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 08:29 (one year ago) link

Tom D i regret to inform… you were Gilmour

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 08:40 (one year ago) link

It does look that way.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 08:57 (one year ago) link

The more I think about it the more the dream seems to be a reflection of the final years of the Waters era Floyd. Waters has presented the band with a lot of material he wants to work on. Gilmour (that's me, folks) sits down and diligently works on the music and tries to ignore or simply fails to notice what is going on around him. Wright is pretty much completely detached, he even fails to bring his equipment (i.e. his talent and ideas) to the proceedings, so much so that Waters eventually forces him out. Mason is around but footling around, almost delaying actually playing the drums, and kind of living on past memories/glories until he absents himself before he too comes under fire from Waters.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 12:03 (one year ago) link

... also Waters is kind of strutting around being very alpha male - the open shirt, the hairy chest.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 12:04 (one year ago) link

... why it all happens in my mother's bedroom though I don't know and not sure I want to know

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 12:09 (one year ago) link

"Mason is around but footling around, almost delaying actually playing the drums"

Having grown up on drummers like Neil Peart and Bill Bruford who live and breathe drumming, I was shocked the first time I read that Nick Mason didn't do any drumming for years at a time. What other famous rock instrumentalists had so little passion for their instrument?

Melomane, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 12:42 (one year ago) link

Paul Bley said “Never practice, only record”

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link

"Now it's about ripped tour jackets"

hahaha

... also Waters is kind of strutting around being very alpha male - the open shirt, the hairy chest.

... why it all happens in my mother's bedroom though I don't know and not sure I want to know

― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, March 8, 2023 6:09 AM

You have listened to The Wall before, right?

pplains, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link

It's all making sense.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link

lol downloads paused due to high demand

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

What other famous rock instrumentalists had so little passion for their instrument?

I remember reading a description of an interview where Mason didn't know the size of his bass drum. Although I don't think that translated into a lack of care for the music and the albums themselves.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link

Paul McCartney was asked what type of bass strings he uses, and he reportedly answered, "long shiny ones."

Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link

When I was in high school I remember thinking of Mason as an appealingly amateur drummer, all those clunky yet melodic tom fills. Not a drummer's drummer but very identifiable. Actually, since I had never really listened to the Beatles, I thought of him in terms of how people talked about Ringo (idiosyncratic, playing for the song, weird catchy fills). Ringo's much better, of course.

Sometimes I'll still playing something that registers as a "Nick Mason" fill in my head, like a syncopated fill involving the toms without filling in any of the ghost notes in between accents.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

That resonates, Jordan. Mason isn't a virtuoso but he has been adequate for far longer than most people. Just because one can imagine more intricate parts doesn't mean he should have played those.

Given the generally spacious nature of Floydian arrangements, maybe he was the best drummer for Pink Floyd despite not being the best drummer.

And I agree that there is a Nick style of fill. Sometimes I myself will just do that "Pat Boone Debby Boone" thing and I'm not even a little bit sorry.

Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 March 2023 23:39 (one year ago) link

Nacho Video just posted a restored version of the Secret Policeman's gig with Kate Bush and Gilmour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1QjPIPAXIE

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 12 March 2023 02:44 (one year ago) link

Kate sounds great. Gilmour's guitar... does not.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 12 March 2023 03:39 (one year ago) link

Beeps and I went to the Pink Floyd Laser Spectacular last night at the municipal performance hall.

I've seen laser light shows in planetariums, but didn't know what to expect to see in the same room we saw "Hamilton". We had seats in the third row of the mezzanine level, which looked about right. Big screen front and center on the stage, with a lighting rig on all four sides of it.

It was all right. I wouldn't have gone had Beeps not shown some interest, and I'm not rearing to go again any time soon. There were many moments where I pictured all of us from a third-person POV, a mostly sober adult audience sitting in a dark auditorium as vectored images and words like MONEY flashed in front of us.

The Boomers came out for this one. Lot of women dressed like Emmylou Harris at the 1989 Grammies. Grizzled old men with their long thinning hair slicked back, wearing their Pink Floyd t-shirts. The announcer said before the show started that taking photos and videos were allowed, but please, no flash photography and make sure your flashlight was turned off. The man knew his audience.

(He also encouraged everyone to post their photos on the PFLS Facebook page. Another clue to the show's demographics.)

Beeps was getting a kick out of the old people getting psyched, until I told her that two-thirds of them probably voted for Trump. "These people?" she asked pointing at the biker dude with the beard and "Hammers" shirt from The Wall. "Oh, especially that guy."

I swear I've seen this show before, but maybe we've all seen this show before. Falling through an endless vectored tunnel during "On the Run". The clocks going off. Wizard of Oz on the screen during "The Great Gig." Some weird "Big Mac Tonight" caricature as "The Lunatic" running around through a man's head during "Brain Damage/Eclipse." The 3-D glasses helped move things along.

After DSotM, there was an intermission. Had to step over some puke to get out of my row. That didn't happen during "Hamilton" either.

Part II was a weird mix. Started off with "The Show Must Go On" seguing into "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" and then straight into BAM "In the Flesh?" Fortunately, the Gerald Scarfe animations were kept to a minimum, though my daughter and I cringed a little when the flowers sequence for "Empty Spaces" showed up. "Young Lust" also embarrassing, with this awkward reoccurring red panty laser image ambling across the stage.

At the end of "Wish You Were Here," a photo of Syd appeared with 1946-2006. "Oh, that's nice. Wonder if they'll have –" and then the Rick Wright card came up. "Cool," I thought. "He gets left out sometimes." But then the next card was Jim Morrison. Beeps and I looked at each other. Then Janis. And then Jimi. "Oh no." "Elvis Presley, 1935-1977." "John Lennon, 1940-1980." Goddammed montage went on so long that I started yelling for Tupac at a Pink Floyd laser light show. He never showed up, but it ended with Tom Fuckin' Petty.

I sunk down in my seat even further when "On The Turning Away" began playing. No escape from this era! But honestly, the non-screen lasers were amazing. Felt like I could just step off the balcony and walk on to the multi-colored plane to the orchestra pit. At one point, the whole room looked like it was under a circus big top. (I was completely sober.)

Whole thing was surreal, like going to a concert without there being a live band. They were even selling t-shirts. It made me realize how big Pink Floyd is. Four generations of Arkansans sitting in a dark room for two hours, lookin' at pretty lights, all because of Gilmour-Mason-Waters-Wright (no, they didn't play "Interstellar Overdrive" or "Astronomy Domine.")

PINK FLOYD RULES.

pplains, Friday, 17 March 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/JYOCjUj.png

pplains, Friday, 17 March 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link

excellent trip report

i can't belieeeeeve that after the syd and rick wright tribute text that they went on to jim morrison and the rest. that's just an unbelievably bad decision.

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 17 March 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link

should have ended with a laser version of this
https://i.imgur.com/8hRCUMG.png

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 17 March 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link

On the ride home, I was all just "What about Brian Jones? Or Charlie Watts? Where was Buddy Holly? You going to have Elvis in there, but not Buddy?"

No Otis or Sam either, but I guess they're not rock-and-roll enough. Otis sure as shit had more #1s though than that rock-and-roll star, Bob Marley, who was included.

pplains, Friday, 17 March 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link

unfortunately, the list of honored dead musicians is sorted by number of posters sold at hot topic

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 17 March 2023 16:40 (one year ago) link

Where was Joliet Jake Blues then.

pplains, Friday, 17 March 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

Forgot to mention the oldster wearing the Stetson in front of us. He looked nervous.

Sure enough, during the guitar solo of "Time," dude pulled out an IPAD.

And on that iPad, we saw this app!

https://i.imgur.com/x6L7vto.jpg

(The needle was pegged at around 90. He was gone for the second half and Beeps got to put her feet up.)

pplains, Friday, 17 March 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link

"turn it down!" is one of the rarest squares in pink floyd laser show Bingo

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 17 March 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link

Almost as rare as yelling "Tupac!"

pplains, Friday, 17 March 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link

"Hey some of us are just here for the lasers man!"

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 17 March 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

thank u for the scene report pplains, wonderful

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 17 March 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link

I saw a PF laser show in college, maybe 1990. I don't remember whether we were tripping or high, or just drunk. I think it very unlikely that we would have gone to it without an intoxication plan.

Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 March 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

Great story indeed. Meantime, here's a great one from fifty years back:

50 years ago tonight, #PinkFloyd perform “dark side of the moon” with quadraphonic sound at #nyc’s radio city music hall, starting at 1am. the late dead taper harvey lubar told me that he attended this show with fellow taper jerry moore & that the #gratefuldead’s #JerryGarcia, #PhilLesh, & #OwsleyStanley sat in front of them, apparently checking out the quad system on their night off, but split at set break, before floyd played “dark side.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv9qVIzWrM4

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 March 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link

"It was heavy maaaaaan, Pigpen had just died, too much of a bummer"

he took an iPad with a decibel meter but didn't take earplugs?

koogs, Saturday, 18 March 2023 01:49 (one year ago) link

I suspect because the earplugs would have given him reason to stay instead of leaving.

pplains, Saturday, 18 March 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link

Nick Mason and his All-Starr Saucerful of Secrets are coming to Australia in Sept and I am GOING with an old mate who also thinks Pink Floyd rule.

Feels good to have a ticket to see the second-best surviving member of The Pink Floyd! Figure I am extremely unlikely to see Gilmour at this point, as much as I would love this.

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Monday, 20 March 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link

Also I just watched that Kate Bush / Gilmour clip and Dave's guitar sounds fkn great IMO - that's a killer performance all round

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 01:11 (one year ago) link

Like it really intelligently answers the question "how do you feature a guitar hero on this song that doesn't really have an obvious place for guitar heroism", I would've been beyond stoked to see that performed live

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 01:29 (one year ago) link

I don't know who the other guitarist is but his haircut is a glorious summation of the mid-eighties.

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 01:35 (one year ago) link


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