Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

Yes he did pic.twitter.com/neN3aV4tii

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) March 6, 2023

bird flu is gonna take out Mar-a-Lago

Trump stares up into the sun as he is wont to do, seagull flies by and shits in his mouth, he dies one week later

it's funny that he is still posting on truth social instead of twitter

truth social is more stable

Maddow talking about new GA law for firing/discipling prosecutors (pending gov sig) was good for that “i’d like to to see ol Trump wriggle outta THIS one” vibe i’ve been missing.

...up to ten new “Freedom Cities,” built from the ground up on federal land.

Some people are saying we should build them from the sky down, but I say no, from the ground up is the way. It's better.

it how our ancestors did it

Fox News host Tucker Carlson said in a text message after the 2020 election that he "passionately hated" Donald Trump, according to new court filings.

Mr Carlson's message to a colleague in January 2021 emerged as part of a defamation lawsuit by Dominion Voting Systems against Fox News.

The electronic voting firm accuses the network of promoting baseless claims of vote-rigging in the election.

Fox News denies defamation and says on-air comments were taken out of context.

The latest filings in the case suggest Mr Carlson expressed his dislike of the outgoing US president two days before Trump supporters stormed the US Capitol to derail lawmakers from certifying Joe Biden's election win.

"We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights," he wrote in a text sent on 4 January 2021. "I truly can't wait."
"I hate him passionately," he added.

Mr Carlson, the top-rated host on the conservative network, also appeared to denigrate the Trump presidency in these private messages, despite lauding his achievements on air.

tucker is a true sicko

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71E4b1ldo+L._SX425_.jpg

it's funny how there was that whole thing about fox news knowingly lying to their own viewers and how everyone knew it from the top to the bottom in the organization, but yet, none of their viewers cared. fox continues to dominate the ratings as if nothing happened. and i don't think any advertisers left, either (?)

maybe it's because the viewers just don't know about it?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/03/business/media/fox-dominion-conservative-media.html

On 26 of the most popular conservative television news networks, radio shows, podcasts and websites, only four — National Review, Townhall, The Federalist and Breitbart News — have mentioned the private messages from Fox News hosts that disparaged election fraud claims since Feb. 16, when the first batch of court filings were released publicly, according to a review by The New York Times.

The majority — 18 in all, including Fox News itself — did not cover the lawsuit at all with their own staff. (Some of those 18 published wire stories originally written by The Associated Press or other services.)

Four outlets mentioned the lawsuit in some way, but did not mention the comments from Fox News hosts. One of those, The Gateway Pundit, published three articles that included additional unfounded allegations about Dominion, including a suggestion that security vulnerabilities at one election site using Dominion machines could have led to some fraud, despite no evidence that votes were mismanaged.

even if they did would they believe it?

yeah, probably not! it's tough down there in the hole, stacking mud, waiting for tucker to tell you what is wrong

Howard Kurtz was quoted on his show as saying he'd love to talk about it but essentially had been told by management that he couldn't, likely for obvious reasons but also because they were the subject of said litigation and it wouldn't help their side much. Which is interesting to me because given Tucker's current on-air screeds, kinda seems like Dominion's team is probably thinking "Ah, thanks for the additional evidence, very helpful."

i don't think any advertisers left, either (?)

― z_tbd, Wednesday, March 8, 2023 10:49 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

tbf all the advertisers who would care left a long time ago, the pillow guy is their biggest spender

i periodically ask this, but is there a good source for tracking advertiser spending? the scenario that always comes up, year after year, is when someone like rush limbaugh says something even more horrible than normal, and then there's news that advertisers are dropping him. and i wonder...for how long? do the same advertisers come back? and who fills the void while they're gone?

and what i'm driving at, i guess, is if it's possible to come up with a "boycott these shitty companies that are even worse than the normal companies" list that is even close to comprehensive.

i guess either a lot of it is proprietary or something, and/or, like most financial stuff, the advertiser's ownership structures are so fucking complicated that it's tough to make the connections between the entities spending the ad money and the name brand crap we actually recognize?

the safest assumption is that every single company is horrible and to try to buy as little as possible, i know. but it would be nice to have a giant printed list to throw darts at and to clean out muddy cleats

is anyone actually surprised tucker carlson personally hates trump? anyone who has had to deal with trump personally, especially during the presidential years, seems to feel this way. this is why so many people left his administration even though they shared his egregious politics.

I assumed Trump had better relations with media personalities than with underlings, but apparently he alienates everyone he meets

and it's everyone else's fault, I bet

Does Donald J. Trump still have your support?

YES or NO? 👇 pic.twitter.com/I68fAtjSuw

— shaneyyricch (@shaneyyricch) March 8, 2023

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I thought Diane Arbus died years ago but clearly she's still out there, shooting at conservative events.

i periodically ask this, but is there a good source for tracking advertiser spending?

― z_tbd, Wednesday, March 8, 2023 11:06 AM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

im sure you could find this info if you wanted its def tracked by various industry entities and their are activists that put together lists who feel like have been pretty successful in the case of fox news at least there arent a ton of blue chip advertisers on there

ok i googled it, first result this this is old but https://adage.com/article/media/beyond-mypillow-other-biggest-brand-advertisers-fox-news-revealed/2354321

The biggest advertisers on Fox News by TV ad impressions, from Jan. 1 through July 29, 2021, per iSpot:
1. Fox News (8.5 million)
2. Balance of Nature (4.6 million)
3. Liberty Mutual (3.9 million)
4. Fox Nation (3.8 million)
5. NewDay USA (3.7 million)
6. MyPillow (2.3 million)
7. Relief Factor (2.2 million)
8. USAA (2.0 million)
9. Indeed (1.8 million)
10. Nutrisystem (1.6 million)
11. Fox (1.3 million)
12. Progressive (1.3 million)
13. Safelite Auto Glass (1.3 million)
14. Applebee’s (1.0 million)
15. ADT (1.0 million)

I have no clue who shaneyyricch is. Every time I see one of these tweets I have to research "okay, who's this fucking doorknob now..."

14. Applebee’s (1.0 million)

No more appletinis for me

bunch of orgs going after the advertisers none of which date their lists is it so hard to throw a date on there folks

https://dropfox.com/advertisers/ (© Media Matters for America 2021)

https://actionnetwork.org/letters/tell-these-advertisers-to-stop-funding-fox-news-now

http://foxnewsboycott.com/fox-news-sponsors/fox-sponsors-a-l/ (comments from 2011 lol)

thanking u lag00n

but of course

now - let's get out there and take down fox news with our purchasing decisions!!

*buys a local stick*

im skeptical of the efficacy of ethical shopping etc but it is pretty funny that fox has to pander to the pillow man

they should be out there wining and dining with the big boys

so Fox News has to buy ads from Fox News? Is that how it works?

In house promos, baby.

We should boycott Fox News until they stop advertising on Fox News

done!

If Joe Tacopina is your lawyer, you'll probably get off, but you did that shit and everybody knows it.

it's funny how there was that whole thing about fox news knowingly lying to their own viewers and how everyone knew it from the top to the bottom in the organization, but yet, none of their viewers cared. fox continues to dominate the ratings as if nothing happened. and i don't think any advertisers left, either (?)

yeah this is something that really others me about conservatives. I get that they don't care about hypocrisy, their entire political philosophy is "we get to make the rules and you don't", but like...even when they find out the people they listen to 24/7 are straight up bullshitting them, they just don't care. will Tucker saying he "hated Trump passionately" affect his viewership at all?? not a chance. will the fact that they've been so provably wrong about everything time and time again mean a thing? no way. and we still have to have "good-spirited debates" with these folks? give me a break

even when they find out the people they listen to 24/7 are straight up bullshitting them, they just don't care

i regret that i spent years believing that if they were convincingly shown that they were being lied to, it would make any difference at all on their actions. it doesn't. "debating" or arguing things with people i knew that i cared about, randos at a bar, the comment section of watts up with that, people in the family, everything. such a complete waste of time and a terrible headspace to be in.

Dud

Joe Tacopina is such a great name for a mob lawyer. Joey Tacos.

yup I get into arguments with a family member about this dumb shit and I always try to stop myself because there is just no winning. recently he's onto this idea that the vaccine is causing a lot of young healthy people to suddenly die, that it's causing all these crazy heart problems and clotting issues and it's all just going completely unreported. and his evidence is a very long documentary hosted on some crazy rightwing site. I don't watch it but if you look it up you can see all the ways it's wrong. like obviously wrong.

for example their 'evidence' involves video footage of events that were taken in 2018 or 2019, well before the vaccine, sometimes even before Covid itself. and you can prove it too. here's the footage. here's where that footage is from. here's the date on it. OBVIOUSLY THE FILMMAKERS KNEW THIS and included it anyway because they think you're too stupid to look it up. one would think that would be the end of it. oh, but it's not. instead its like "well you're just nitpicking" or "you didn't address the other points, if even a fraction is true this is a big deal", or worst of all "I suspect maybe they intended to put that in there" for whatever reason. THAT is the sort of worldview that I think is going to make shit much worse than it has to be. How many people have died of Covid thanks to this bullshit???

I am always flabbergasted by this covid denial shit and yet we're at the point where I just watched a congressional hearing where Jim Jordan and Matt Taibbi were telling me that the republic is in danger because someone at the NHO wrote an email about countering an RFK Jr. anti-vax tweet.

I know this won't convince anyone, but I'd point out that over 72% of the entire global population has taken covid vaccines, so if it were killing lots of people it would be very obvious to everyone.

wish more GOP politicians had died of COVID

lol camaraderie

the argument is that it is but it's not actually reported that way. like "oh there's a huge uptick in MY-OH-CAR-DYE-TIS and it's because of the vaccine". which is fucking maddening because the uptick is due to Covid itself!! either way "they" are burying the story, "they" are taking orders, "they" are getting paid off, blah blah blah. it's all in plain view! you see that dude's heart stop on Monday Night Football? yep. that was the vaccine too.