Elon Musk

that he gave up his equity for $0 in return for a guaranteed salary for life.

this would rule

that's really interesting caek!

i do wonder if any of the other employees at ueno actually had equity, or maybe twitter just sort of agreed to buy everybody's shares at different prices. i'm assuming they would not have given essential employees who owned equity the option to weight their equity more heavily than the salary potion of the comp. i'm assuming for essential employees you want their to be some sort of balloon payment at the end, to incentivize people to stay. if they gave halli the option to weight his comp toward a lump sum for his equity, maybe they didn't view him as essential.

i do recognize this convo is going off the rails. to bring it back, i appreciated the sick burn halli had on elon having twitter shitter bodyguards.

i do wonder if any of the other employees at ueno actually had equity, or maybe twitter just sort of agreed to buy everybody's shares at different prices.

startup employee equity is so chaotic that i think anything goes, and the CEO/founder has a ton of influence on what happens. basically they have a big dial called "give myself less money or screw over employee-shareholders" that they are free to adjust based on their particular needs.

xp yeah, he restrained himself but there were some nice mild insults in that thread

are people from iceland known to be really rude though? that might have been brutal

this whole thing has been an absolute PR disaster for Musk specifically, and more broadly the wreckage of what was once Twitter

it's the worst thing he's done this week for sure

just this from BBC:

Photographer Daniel Houghton tweeted "As someone who has worked directly with Halli Thorleifsson during a turnaround, this is super disappointing to see. Not only is his work ethic next level, his talent and humility are world class."

Mr Musk replied: "Based on your comment, I just did a video call with Halli to figure out what's real vs what I was told. It's a long story. Better to talk to people than communicate via tweet."

Dude 'communicate via tweet' is literally all you do all day long

yet I read both of those things as tweets and not as a BBC article

as the proud still-new owner of twitter i say: better not to communicate by it!

other uses are ok tho (muting people)

this conversation is making me realize once again that i should ask all of you tech types for money. gimme!

How much you want

I would like four thousand dollars

thats super cheap. i want 40 million.

us techies don't have any money, we have stock options and man buns

elon has money because he makes space rockets and automobiles

And never pays anyone

every day this shitwad finds a new way to fail beyond anyone who didn't grow up living off the proceeds of blood diamonds, it's almost impressive really. and still he continues onwards/downwards. is there no bottom? there is no bottom.

The bottom is suicide or life in prison. He'll likely fail into a pillow full of money instead.

assassinated on his own toilet by his own bodyguards, tywin-lannister-style

oh my god

Elon Musk asked managers at Twitter to nominate their best employees for promotion, then fired the managers and replaced them with their lower paid nominees https://t.co/ngOh68eEZ5

— Luke Bailey (@imbadatlife) March 9, 2023

is this how he ran tesla? it seems like he is actively trying to destroy morale.

does he have this kind of control there? i'd image anyone else who is in a position of power at his other ventures, if they have an ounce of sense, has got to be drawing up plans to get him away from any decision making powers

Tesla’s board is very deferential to Musk but they could change their minds

Musk being ousted would be hilarious, people would create videos of themselves burning their Teslas

perhaps he has become more reckless over time.

i read an article once where a source inside tesla said that elon was quite carefully "managed," like they'd devote a lot of energy to placating his rages and preventing him from making any rash decisions. so he has been mad for a while. but it doesn't seem like twitter has a skilled enough asshole whisperer to keep him in check.

from what weve heard about tesla and his other companies hes kind of like that everywhere a domineering impulsive boss but hes really letting loose at twitter because he hates the company and also he loves it hes a mess over there

i thought that little video clip posted here from a while back was pretty telling: the one with a group of dudes sitting around a table, staring at elon musk, who is staring at his phone, using twitter, and occasionally muttering to himself about what he might tweet. iirc, he says something that is not notably interesting at all and then one of the sycophants reassures him that he is amazing

i did try to search for it, but failed. this thread has 9574 posts, and also, i'm not sure if it was on the twitter thread, which also has a few dozen posts

.@ElonMusk jokes about his plan to steal @HardDriveMag memes and post them as his own. pic.twitter.com/6XhIKXVfQe

— The Recount (@therecount) June 14, 2022

Your meme game is strong

i read an article once where a source inside tesla said that elon was quite carefully "managed," like they'd devote a lot of energy to placating his rages and preventing him from making any rash decisions. so he has been mad for a while. but it doesn't seem like twitter has a skilled enough asshole whisperer to keep him in check.

― treeship., Thursday, March 9, 2023 9:05 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i wonder if he is...increasingly isolated?

it's hard to fuck up saying "thank you" but the way he says thank you there is a fuck up

xp

he's definitely entering the howard hughes mania part of his tycoonship

probably the funniest genre of post by the type of person who pays for twitter blue pic.twitter.com/U5e7NB4Cye

— pudding person (@JUNlPER) March 9, 2023

elon promised blue subscribers more engagement and hes not delivering lol prob cause he fired all the developers and cause you cant make people like shitty tweets they need to build an ai that will write viral tweets for people but they cant cause he fired all the developers

haha, yeah that's where it seems to be going, or at least what they want: to make twitter users little CEOs of their potempkin villages. pay the fee to get better "engagement", then use AI to craft tweets because you can't think of good stuff on your own, then...i think the part that is missing is that the bots need to be there in order to give the AI tweets more engagement. elon may be making a mistake in trying to get rid of those, it's a key part of the delusion scheme

you could have an ai that basically turns your account into a bot automating all the activities of twitter and interacting with other automated accounts, it would still give you the option of using twitter manually when you felt like it but why bother its already taking care of it for you, all you have to do is sit back and read your notifications, all negative content will of course be filtered out

it could have a lil thumbs up thumbs down training system so it figures out how to generate stuff you like

i read an article once where a source inside tesla said that elon was quite carefully "managed," like they'd devote a lot of energy to placating his rages and preventing him from making any rash decisions. so he has been mad for a while. but it doesn't seem like twitter has a skilled enough asshole whisperer to keep him in check.

― treeship., Thursday, March 9, 2023 9:05 AM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

well its worth remembering that Tesla was making cars before Elon bought the "founder" title and both them and SpaceX get a ton of federal money which I assume means you have to have a functioning board. so its only natural that Twitter would operate more like his *other* companies like Boring and Neuralink, companies which are uniformly terrible and may not produce anything tangible ever (outside of what Twitter's already done)

also funny to remember that this is basically how Trump operated too, anyone who ever worked for one of his companies or in his government has said the same thing, that things could only run smoothly if they kept him away

Company town: pic.twitter.com/DfDZk9q8W7

— Tom LoBianco (@tomlobianco) March 9, 2023

Cannot fathom how ugly and boring Muskville would be.

asshole whisperer

dying at this, thank u treeship

So, a company town? Ive read Parable of the Sower, fuck off with that shit.

Oh duh the guy posting the img said exactly that, I'm a derp.

Idk if it's true or not but I often think of Felix from Chapo talking about how Elon is a rockabilly guy.

btw ai-written social media is here now: https://www.theverge.com/23632371/social-network-future-ai-automated-chatbot-posts-linkedin

twitter needs to catch up theyre fighting for their lives

honestly, as long as users don't care/notice, this feels like the future for most ad-based media

Yeah I think a lot of content-generation jobs (copy writing, design) are going to turn into basically AI management, or AI specialists. Twitter will be all bots except for Elon and catturd.