Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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the anti vaxxers have won this shit is so mainstream now theres gonna be terrible effects from it for years to come just hope we dont have another pandemic

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link

the next one will be the last one

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link

these people are also bad with numbers though. like "surely this would happen to someone I know" is not really something that goes through their head. they dont know how "the media" actually works because they don't watch real news. same as the whole thing about how undocumented folks are getting 100k/year in government assistance. no I don't know any personally but everyone knows they're all over the place. they're with the AR-15s that are saving lives on a daily basis

frogbs, Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link

New: Prosecutors Signal Criminal Charges for Trump Are Likely https://t.co/O5uuprV1d4

— Jonah Bromwich (@Jonesieman) March 9, 2023

The Manhattan district attorney’s office recently signaled to Donald J. Trump’s lawyers that he could face criminal charges for his role in the payment of hush money to a porn star, the strongest indication yet that prosecutors are nearing an indictment of the former president, according to four people with knowledge of the matter.

The prosecutors offered Mr. Trump the chance to testify next week before the grand jury that has been hearing evidence in the potential case, the people said. Such offers almost always indicate an indictment is close; it would be unusual for the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, to notify a potential defendant without ultimately seeking charges against him.

In New York, potential defendants have the right to answer questions in the grand jury before they are indicted, but they rarely testify, and Mr. Trump is likely to decline the offer. His lawyers could also meet privately with the prosecutors in hopes of fending off criminal charges.

Any case would mark the first indictment of a former American president, and could upend the 2024 presidential race. It would also elevate Mr. Bragg to the national stage, though not without risk.

z_tbd, Thursday, 9 March 2023 23:17 (one year ago) link

sigh

In New York, falsifying business records can amount to a crime, albeit a misdemeanor. To elevate the crime to a felony charge, Mr. Bragg’s prosecutors must show that Mr. Trump’s “intent to defraud” included an intent to commit or conceal a second crime.

In this case, that second crime could be a violation of New York State election law. While hush money is not inherently illegal, the prosecutors could argue that the $130,000 payout effectively became an improper donation to Mr. Trump’s campaign, under the theory that because the money silenced Ms. Daniels, it benefited his candidacy.

Combining the criminal charge with a violation of state election law would be a novel legal theory for any criminal case, let alone one against the former president, raising the possibility that a judge or appellate court could throw it out or reduce the felony charge to a misdemeanor.

z_tbd, Thursday, 9 March 2023 23:19 (one year ago) link

"Develop flying cars" 😆 pic.twitter.com/5P7Ly0GltV

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 9, 2023

cursed pic.twitter.com/glqAlbh0lj

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 13, 2023

Some real "Sending Our Love Down the Well" energy

8. USAA (2.0 million)

this is a side point, but what is the deal with USAA? they do insane amounts of advertising, so much on NFL games which is some of the most expensive ad slots that exist...all to market and insurance company who can't sell to anyone who didn't serve in the military? always seemed off to me

heck even Rob Gronkowski can't get insurance through them

USAA rules, we love them.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 March 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

were you in the military? or are there ways around it?

feels like Cartmanland kinda

My dad was in the Air Force in the early '70s. He must have become a USAA member at some point, because USAA members can pass membership to their kids afaict in perpetuity. I have no other connections to the military, but my kids should be able to use USAA, too.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 March 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link

It took months and months but America finallly found someone worse than Morgan Wallen to top the singles charts

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 13 March 2023 23:51 (one year ago) link

definitely verbatim conversation quotes:

Trump contended that DeSantis pleaded with him for an endorsement during his first run for governor, when polls showed him trailing his primary challenger, then-Florida agricultural commissioner Adam Putnam.

“I said ‘You are so dead right now you are not going, no endorsement is going to save you. George Washington won’t save you.’ He said, ‘I’m telling you, if you endorse me, I have a chance,’” Trump said.

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 13 March 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link

he said, sir,

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Monday, 13 March 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link

Tears in his eyes

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:08 (one year ago) link

but then, george washington unexpectedly saved ron desantis

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:10 (one year ago) link

george washington said, sir,

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:11 (one year ago) link

he really is at heart a man of many bits

"Does anybody in here not like their children" -- Trump in Davenport, Iowa pic.twitter.com/zk3PJRincU

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 13, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:20 (one year ago) link

"Besides me, I mean ..."

nickn, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 03:48 (one year ago) link

someone else is to blame, part 258633784: Pence caused Jan. 6th. : https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/13/trump-pence-january-6-violence

StanM, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 07:23 (one year ago) link

Pence tried to kill HIMSELF? damn now that is a twist

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 13:16 (one year ago) link

"Pence, a very strange man, kind of depressed. Maybe he just likes God so much he wants to go meet him."

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link

you know what I just won?

THE WET T-SHIRT CONTEST, JESUS LOVERS

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 13:54 (one year ago) link

“We are learning that the Manhattan DA office has asked for a meeting with law enforcement ahead of a potential Trump indictment. The meeting is to discuss logistics for some time next week which would mean they are anticipating an indictment next week” pic.twitter.com/IkbM46Naoe

— Acyn (@Acyn) March 17, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:25 (one year ago) link

but this is meaningless too, right? he'll just go "nah", not show up for anything, and nothing will happen because law enforcement chuds don't want to look "political"

frogbs, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link

Kraken 2: Release the Crappin'

Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 March 2023 21:29 (one year ago) link

I mean, I don't know, the story says he'll need to be fingerprinted and processed like anyone else. I suppose he could blow it off, but I can't imagine the state being cool with him doing that.

In related wheels-of-justice news:

THREAD: What should we make of the Chief Judge's ruling that DOJ prosecutors have met the threshold for the crime-fraud exception for Trump attorney Evan Corcoran?

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) March 17, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link

The stormy is coming...

BrianB, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link

I mean nothing came of it when this dude stole classified documents, extorted the president of Ukraine, and tried to overthrow the government, I can't imagine this being anything but a very minor convenience

frogbs, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link

he was impeached for the Ukraine thing!

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link

yeah he got to spend 2 weeks chilling in the White House fundraising and crying witch hunt while everyone else in Congress had to work 12 hour days pretending there was actually a sliver of a chance he'd get removed from office

frogbs, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link

the sepublican senators showed tremendous integrity and courage during that second impeachment

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 17 March 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link

sepublican

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 17 March 2023 21:57 (one year ago) link

Maybe not coincidence this is the 30 year anniversary of Branch Davidian siege near Waco. https://t.co/HfSz2X8REG

— Patrick W. Watson (@PatrickW) March 17, 2023

Messiah complex? ✔️

Likes underage girls? ✔️

Pro-gun? ✔️

Doesn't play guitar, but Ivanka does ✔️

I mean nothing came of it when this dude stole classified documents

Isn't this Corcoran thing directly about the documents?

dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Saturday, 18 March 2023 11:40 (one year ago) link

Yeah. Classified docs stuff still very much in play. There's a special prosecutor who is still actively special prosecuting!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link

he seems fine

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:29 (one year ago) link

His rants scan like mistranslated North Korean propaganda.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:32 (one year ago) link

Or maybe the opening scroll from a cheap straight to VHS post-apocalyptic movie.

Wait, "former" president?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:37 (one year ago) link

Anarchists have stollen? Lucky anarchists.

https://www.daringgourmet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Stollen-2-square-edited.jpg

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link

Ok reading those truth social posts maybe something is gonna happen

frogbs, Saturday, 18 March 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

Not if we take our nation back!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link

its kinda funny and pretty dicey that this is the thing hes going to get tried for cause paying someone to shut up isnt against the law its done all the time instead theyre making the argument that paying her was for the benefit of his campaign and therefor violated campaign laws which is not a particularly common way of thinking about things, youd think if you were going to arrest the ex pres youd want to do it for something rock solid

lag∞n, Saturday, 18 March 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

Most likely Trump's attorneys were told by the Manhattan DA's office that an indictment would likely issue early next week and that he would need to surrender on Tuesday and appear in court.

That would not be an "arrest" but Trump is trying to dramatize this for his supporters. https://t.co/DN4bYLhkCM

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) March 18, 2023

Anyway, this may just be the tip of the iceberg. There's little doubt he's committed numerous crimes in numerous ways in numerous states. That's never really been in question. The issue has been prosecution, which, go figure, only really ramped up once he was out of office. Though not least because several of his crimes (Georgia, January 6, classified docs) were committed on the way out.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link

His rants scan like mistranslated North Korean propaganda.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 bookmarkflaglink

It's actually purely American in its levels of delusion about the best country in the world. With a bunch of racism.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 March 2023 15:03 (one year ago) link

its kinda funny and pretty dicey that this is the thing hes going to get tried for cause paying someone to shut up isnt against the law its done all the time instead theyre making the argument that paying her was for the benefit of his campaign and therefor violated campaign laws which is not a particularly common way of thinking about things, youd think if you were going to arrest the ex pres youd want to do it for something rock solid

― lag∞n, Saturday, March 18, 2023 10:57 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Cohen’s already gone to jail for this, so maybe that sets a precedent. But I agree—this seems dicier than the Georgia election fraud case but I am no lawyer.

treeship., Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link

They just want to get him in court and talking so he'll confess to 7 other things during one of his rants

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link


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