Well, it's lord in Scots, rather than lord in a Scottish accent.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 March 2023 11:38 (one year ago) link
I don't know what Scottish accents would pronounce "lord" as "laird", although admittedly the vowels are all over the place in Scottish accents.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 March 2023 11:39 (one year ago) link
that's why I said Scots?
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 11 March 2023 11:44 (one year ago) link
Yes, but Scots isn't just English with an accent, right?
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 March 2023 11:47 (one year ago) link
no they have a common ancestry, I'm just coming at it from speaking boring old English
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 11 March 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link
I'm just being a bit picky because Scottish English and Scots are two different things - hardly anyone actually speaks Scots anymore, outside of a Burns' Supper.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 March 2023 12:04 (one year ago) link
tbf I'm Scottish myself and don't know enough about Scots, which is why it took me so long to make the laird-lord connection as no one I've ever known would pronounce lord that way. I do have distant relatives up Inverness/Elgin way though, maybe one of those might get close!
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 11 March 2023 12:08 (one year ago) link
I wonder how James is getting on with his Scots...
Scottish Gaelic, Scots an aw
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 March 2023 12:10 (one year ago) link
You rang?
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 March 2023 14:00 (one year ago) link
Somebody must speak Scots, I have a few dictionaries and a grammar book to prove it. Anyway, I will take it over to the other thread.
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 March 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link
Ok so I knew that Toni Basil had been a reasonably prominent dancer and choreographer.
I don't think I knew she'd worked with Bowie on "Diamond Dogs."
I definitely didn't know she is my mother's age (born 1943) which would make her about 31 in 1974 and 38 in 1981.
And finding out that "Mickey" is actually a cover was also a surprise.
Carry on, make of that what you will.
― Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 14:33 (one year ago) link
She was also in Easy Rider.
― awaiting the ILX acquihire (PBKR), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 14:36 (one year ago) link
and Five Easy Pieces
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 14:39 (one year ago) link
and Head
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link
None of these pieces of information would have made much impression on 11-year-old me, and I confess I didn't give her much thought in the intervening 40 years.
― Minivan Morrison (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 15:03 (one year ago) link
She was also in Elvis' Viva Las Vegas (1964), and "...she was assistant choreographer and a dancer on the 1964 concert film The T.A.M.I. Show (Teen-Age Music International) choreographed by David Winters,[8] which featured fellow dancer and friend Teri Garr."
Only found out Garr was in that just now when I googled Basil.
― nickn, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 16:40 (one year ago) link
Woulda liked a version by The Sweet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3JxiB4FLjU
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link
Rock critic Robert Christgau commented on the perceived 'obscene' content of the lyric "So come on and give it to me / Any way you can / Any way you want to do it / I'll take it like a man". Christgau wrote in a review at the time that Basil "was the only woman ever to offer to take it up the ass on Top 40 radio." However, Basil adamantly denies this: "NO! That's ridiculous. People read shit into everything. It's not about anything dirty. You change the name from boy to girl" — i.e., from "Mickey" to "Kitty" — "and they read anything they want into it! When it's a guy singing about a girl, it's a sweet line. But when a girl sings it, it must mean butt-fucking! This is how the wrong foot gets cut off when the doc wheels you into the E.R. Then it's Micky Dolenz and butt-fucking."
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
1. Davey2. Mickey3. Peter4. Mike
― pplains, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link
featured fellow dancer and friend Teri Garr."
I think Garr was in like nine Elvis movies
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I read that too after posting, when I followed the wiki link for her.
― nickn, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link
this is more "term i recently heard that now i use all the time": "tripper trap". good if burner culture is in your backyard.
― ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link
I am shockingly old to be learning this was a Chinnichap song.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link
Rock critic Robert Christgau commented on the perceived 'obscene' content of the lyric "So come on and give it to me / Any way you can / Any way you want to do it / I'll take it like a man". Christgau wrote in a review at the time that Basil "was the only woman ever to offer to take it up the ass on Top 40 radio." However, Basil adamantly denies this: "NO! That's ridiculous. People read shit into everything. It's not about anything dirty. You change the name from boy to girl" — i.e., from "Mickey" to "Kitty" — "and they read anything they want into it! When it's a guy singing about a girl, it's a sweet line. But when a girl sings it, it must mean butt-fucking! This is how the wrong foot gets cut off when the doc wheels you into the E.R. Then it's Micky Dolenz and butt-fucking."― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), woensdag 15 maart 2023 17:49
actually think the line is much eh... racier in the male "Kitty" version.
either way, this is as racy as Racey came: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmSW3CuhZyc
― at bottom, wrapping my arms around some tripe called "Quest" (breastcrawl), Thursday, 16 March 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link
Toni's protestation is not convincing. Literally everyone I knew understood that line at the time as an offer of anal sex.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 16 March 2023 18:42 (one year ago) link
i have never had that thought in my life, nor heard of it being a thing before these posts...
― got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 16 March 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link
nor I, but the Racey version has the same lyric except it’s “any time you wanna do it, I’ll take it like a man” which Basil’s version changes to “any way”, so …
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 16 March 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link
"Any way you want to do it?" C'mon, man.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 16 March 2023 20:36 (one year ago) link
Does Steve Perry get these letters?
― got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 16 March 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link
All night, every night
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2023 22:53 (one year ago) link
this is Tom Breihan's Number Ones column about "Mickey": https://www.stereogum.com/2088588/the-number-ones-toni-basils-mickey/columns/the-number-ones/
he describes it as "a chirpy, revved-up novelty that a whole lot of people assumed was about anal sex" right in the opening paragraph. later on he writes: "There were, in fact, further theories that “Mickey” was a song about a straight woman attempting to seduce a gay man." (the song is from way before Breihan's time, I might add, but he tends to do his homework, although he doesn't expand on it or name sources). all of this comes as a surprise (and even shock) to many (though not all) of the (often knowledgeable) commenters.
I can't say I remember this tidbit from its (not all that impressive) Dutch chart run either, not that that means much, but it would definitely be just the kind of thing kids in high school might pick (up) on.
― at bottom, wrapping my arms around some tripe called "Quest" (breastcrawl), Thursday, 16 March 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link
I don't have an opinion on buttsex, just wanted to say the music vid is one of my favs of all time. The choreo plus it screams 80s
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2023 23:01 (one year ago) link
recently learned that 'anal' should be pronounced like 'banal'
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 16 March 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link
"Denis" (rhymes with "penis")
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 16 March 2023 23:05 (one year ago) link
"Mickey" was the first record I ever begged my mom to buy for me (I was like 6?) and to THIS VERY DAY it never occurred to me it was about anything but a heartbreaker named Mickey
Now I feel gross :(
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 16 March 2023 23:49 (one year ago) link
Gross because I was 6 -- not a commentary on varieties of sexual activity
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 16 March 2023 23:50 (one year ago) link
briefly looking at the lyrics, it's mostly chorus and the bay city rollers chanting, very little going on in the verse except the sodomy reference
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 March 2023 23:55 (one year ago) link
this verse is slightly intriguing:
Hey MickeyNow when you take me by the, who's ever gonna knowEvery time you move, I let a little more showThere's something you can use, so don't say no, Mickey
definitely some boner reference there
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 March 2023 23:57 (one year ago) link
yeah it's conclusively a gay sex anthem
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 March 2023 23:59 (one year ago) link
oiling up your chain and pumping up your tires makes riding a bike much much much much easier
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 March 2023 09:23 (one year ago) link
i mean i knew a was supposed to do those things, intellectually, like in a maintenance kind of way, but it only very recently came home to me how much more effort you need to put into a ride when those things haven’t been done
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 March 2023 09:24 (one year ago) link
that's quite the juxtaposition.
is your saddle the proper height? riding with it high enough so your legs aren't bent the whole time also makes a world of difference.
― ledge, Friday, 17 March 2023 09:51 (one year ago) link
yeah that’s fine
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 March 2023 09:52 (one year ago) link
some nice continuity w previous posts it’s true
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 March 2023 09:53 (one year ago) link
oiling up my chain rn tbrr
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 March 2023 10:11 (one year ago) link
Yeah keeping things oiled, greased and properly tightened very useful.torqued even.
― Stevo, Friday, 17 March 2023 10:33 (one year ago) link
Putting on new handlegrips
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 17 March 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link
I have an old Raleigh 3-speed and it's true, if I keep the chain & hub oiled up and the tires fully inflated, it's a joy to ride... if I don't, it's a workout
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 March 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link
i mean I know it sounds completely obvious but I honestly did not realise the magnitude of the difference
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 17 March 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link
"magnitude" keeping this week's theme going
― satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 March 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link