Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

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A dance where someone stomps on someone else’s head seems a very VU thing to do.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 7 April 2023 12:45 (one year ago) link

By now everybody's seem the video of Lou's sister, Merrill, dancing along, I hope. No heads were stomped in the making, iirc.

Beatles in My Passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 April 2023 12:50 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

has this month's mojo been mentioned yet? cover-mounted cd with vu-related stuff on it, and another 'best 50 songs' list (am sure they do this every year)

https://www.discogs.com/release/26766839-Various-The-Worlds-Behind-You-A-Velvet-Underground-Companion

koogs, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 10:06 (one year ago) link

Obviously having the Seeds and Iannis Xenakis on the same CD is a great thing but I don't know what either of them are doing on there.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 April 2023 10:09 (one year ago) link

"it's hard not to hear a kinship in this epic garage-rock freak out" is their justification for the seeds, and seemingly because it's nearly as long as sister ray.

and xenakis was "another striking influence on john cale [] who taught him [] at tanglewood"

koogs, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 10:28 (one year ago) link

That "50 best songs" is all of Lou Reed's solo stuff as well as the Velvets songs.

I think (OK I know) there aren't any VU songs that Lou doesn't have credit on, excepting the "Squeeze" album obviously..

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 08:40 (one year ago) link

As far as fan "remixes" go this is pretty great. Person basically separated all the sections of the WLWH tracks using AI tech and made some stuff ...err.. spiffier. Sounds good to me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GihCAuHRyeM

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 18:02 (eleven months ago) link

against my better judgement ... it does sound pretty good! kind of crazy to hear Moe's drums better on "Sister Ray" — she's actually holding it down (not that much of a surprise when you hear later live versions, but there's always been a bit more chaos on the studio recording).

tylerw, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 18:44 (eleven months ago) link

"it's hard not to hear a kinship in this epic garage-rock freak out" is their justification for the seeds, and seemingly because it's nearly as long as sister ray.

― koogs

the full-length "900 million people daily making love" would be a better fit IMO

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 18:44 (eleven months ago) link

Mike McG posted that Sister Ray mix on FB, I love it

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 18:53 (eleven months ago) link

kinda makes me wonder if it'd be possible with ai to take the sweetening off _chelsea girl_...

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 4 May 2023 03:34 (eleven months ago) link

I think you could almost do it yourself using something like the Moises app let's you isolate drum tracks from any song... can we use its power for good?

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 4 May 2023 08:19 (eleven months ago) link

you are greatly overestimating my level of executive function :), but that's good to know

honestly i'm listening to the title track now and i didn't realize the damn thing was in beatle stereo, it's probably been done already haha

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 4 May 2023 18:52 (eleven months ago) link

record porn:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/394614756689

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 09:19 (eleven months ago) link

The bidding history on that is great. Shout out to bidder e***9 who's all "yeah, I'll bid a dollar on that but nothing more" and then the run-up between o***7 and n***6

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 May 2023 00:31 (eleven months ago) link

dang

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Thursday, 18 May 2023 00:45 (eleven months ago) link

The final run-up from $3750 to $7600 all takes place in 11 minutes.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 May 2023 01:03 (eleven months ago) link

nine months pass...

here's one. in the new Keith Richards cover of "I'm Waiting for the Man," he sings "beat up shoes and a big straw hat."

that's not right, i thought. but what does Lou sing? i realized that i had been hearing "Dior shoes" all these years, but didn't have any reason to think that was definitive. but i did google for a pair of vintage Dior shoes that conformed to the image i had in my mind of The Man. something like this:

https://i.imgur.com/kE5GDfH.png

but according to the website genius, what he sings is "PR shoes." this is the gloss:

This is a reference to PR shoes – Puerto Rican shoes – he was wearing what was popular in the height of Harlem for a smack dealer circa 1968. “P.R. shoes” are the type of zapatos associated with hip uptown Puerto Ricans at that time: shiny leather with pointed toe

Lou Reed noted in his book of collected lyrics “Between Thought And Expression” that what’s meant here is “Puerto Rican Fence Climbers”. Which makes sense for a man who may have to make a swift getaway at any time, the ability to climb fences on the run is extremely necessary.

setting aside that the song was recorded in 1966 (and a few other things), this seems like it's legit. but is anybody with access to liner notes from the "Between Thought and Expression" box able to confirm what Lou actually wrote?

google search doesn't turn up much for these, but i did get this. i do feel like i know this shoe.

https://i.imgur.com/S7t3mXc.png

anyway, feel free to post some pics of Puerto Rican Fence Climbers itt

budo jeru, Saturday, 2 March 2024 19:17 (one month ago) link

I can do better than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqENMQnbnxw

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 March 2024 19:19 (one month ago) link

("PR shoes" is indeed the correct lyric btw)

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 March 2024 19:22 (one month ago) link

We had a thing on this here year back… I also had always thought it was “Dior shoes”

Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Saturday, 2 March 2024 19:24 (one month ago) link

Thread needs some David Lee Roth:

Of "The Full Bug", Roth said 'PRFCs' were "great shoes for when the cockroach moves into the corner and you can't get at it with your foot or the broom anymore. You just jam your toe into the corner and hit as hard as you can. And if you did it right you got the full bug. So this slang means — bammm! — you have to give it everything you've got. Make the maximum effort, do everything possible, get the full bug."

Unfortunately the Diver Down wiki has been edited down, taking away more DLR discussion of said shoes, including a detailed explanation of where their name came from.

no way is the man wearing "beat-up shoes," wtf Keef

Brad C., Saturday, 2 March 2024 19:31 (one month ago) link

XP Found the full quote:

Dave: "You know when you have a cockroach and they run round the house and get into a corner? We used to have these shoes called PRFCs - Puerto Rican Fence Climbers, okay? And this was aptly titled because if you were running from the police or what have you, and you were wearing your PRFCs, you could hit the fence at a dead run and your foot would stay in and you could commence climbing immediately, which was the essence of the whole sport anyway. And these were also great shoes for when the cockroach moves into the corner and you get at it with your foot or the broom anymore. You just jam your toe into the corner and hit as hard as you can. And if you did it right you got the full bug. So this slang means bammm! - you have to give it everything you've got. Make the maximum effort, do everything possible, get the full bug."

yeh I always thought it was Dior shoes as well

much amused by this song by 1977 punk jokers The Snivelling Shits, which is Waiting for the Man but the lyrics are about his love for crap UK soap opera Crossroads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhjWdz541wM

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 2 March 2024 19:40 (one month ago) link

but is anybody with access to liner notes from the "Between Thought and Expression" box able to confirm what Lou actually wrote?

It's not the liner notes to the box, it's in his book of lyrics of the same name. It's literally just an asterisk next to the line "PR shoes" with "* Puerto Rican Fence Climbers" written at the bottom of the page.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 4 March 2024 03:34 (one month ago) link

thank you!

budo jeru, Monday, 4 March 2024 15:40 (one month ago) link

Lou explains the reference mid-song (2:23)

famous instagram dog (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 4 March 2024 17:33 (one month ago) link

great, thanks for this as well

budo jeru, Monday, 4 March 2024 20:57 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

New very chopped up version of "I'll Be Your Mirror" bgm on some corny-ass Expedia TV CM.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 29 March 2024 01:50 (four weeks ago) link


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