Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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Agree with Tom D.

the pinefox, Thursday, 13 April 2023 08:54 (one year ago) link

Then?

We’ll head to the park to run the kids out, then I’ll pop in the butchers and pick up a chicken. Later, stick the veg on, Jakki does the roast potatoes, I’ll do the Yorkshire puddings.

the pinefox, Thursday, 13 April 2023 08:55 (one year ago) link

If anyone says "stick the veg on" in my physical presence I am not responsible for my actions

That includes you, Jamie Oliver

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:14 (one year ago) link

there is a scene in the Altman Van Gogh movie where Gaugin is using a food analogy (cooking is like painting sort of thing) to intimate Van G's painting style lacked flair and imagination, like his shit cooking - or roughly something like that, obv his character was wrong in this case. But with this dullard, that would be a correct dis to make. You'd get more appetising food in a prison than in this boring cunt's house!

calzino, Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:17 (one year ago) link

Calzino at his best.

Strikes me that 'inner life of Kelly Jones' would be a step down even from ILX's dull 'inner life of Noel Gallagher'.

the pinefox, Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:20 (one year ago) link

"stick the veg on" makes me think "I am consuming the mandatory number of portions of vegetables until the day scientists come up with a pill to replace them"

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:28 (one year ago) link

confident I could've predicted Kelly Jones having a son named Marley

or something, Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:45 (one year ago) link

people sure love that dog

zing me with your best zhot (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:48 (one year ago) link

Calling your son Marley vs. calling your son Lennon. I suppose they should be grateful they weren't called Clapton.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:52 (one year ago) link

It’s probably cos I’m into baseball now and am watching fellas called absurd things like Dansby, Kutter and Jeter (first name), but I’d take a nice honest Lennon or even a Clapton tbh

limb tins & cum (gyac), Thursday, 13 April 2023 09:59 (one year ago) link

Calzino at his best.

Strikes me that 'inner life of Kelly Jones' would be a step down even from ILX's dull 'inner life of Noel Gallagher'.


Paul Scholes going “steady on” in the corner

limb tins & cum (gyac), Thursday, 13 April 2023 10:00 (one year ago) link

My daughter has been to K Jones's house! Apparently, it is MASSIVE. School pals. I think she'll get a kick out of that article. She revels in the absurdity and boringness of All Dads.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 13 April 2023 10:23 (one year ago) link

"In lockdown, when everybody walked the Earth, it niggled me again."

the pinefox, Thursday, 13 April 2023 10:37 (one year ago) link

wow, if I was writing something with the goal of discrediting generational analysis I couldn't do better

rob, Thursday, 13 April 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/17/astrology-stars-art-understanding-restrictive

I’ve been in the grip of astrology all my life, so why am I turning my back on the stars? - Daisy Jones

Smug detractors may roll their eyes, but this ancient art gave me a deep understanding of who I am – until it began to feel restrictive

the pinefox, Thursday, 20 April 2023 12:17 (one year ago) link

Observer leader writer and columnist promotes a Times review attacking J. Maugham KC.

“It is all downhill from the book’s very first, unforgivable sentence: “The life I have is hard, but I got to choose it, and the road that brought me here I did not.” Is this a song lyric? What does it even mean? Does Penguin no longer employ editors?"https://t.co/ilrQwHZssc

— Sonia Sodha (@soniasodha) April 22, 2023

the pinefox, Saturday, 22 April 2023 14:44 (one year ago) link

God they are so clueless.

"PT Barnum famously declared that there is no such thing as bad publicity but the American showman might have revised his opinion on seeing Monday’s events unfold. While there’s no doubt they have their supporters, the protesters’ actions have been roundly criticised, and one suspects none of the snooker fans present in the theatre or watching at home will be rushing to glue their hands to the Sheffield Parkway dual carriageway in solidarity any time soon."

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/apr/22/empty-pockets-how-snooker-can-reduce-the-temptation-of-match-fixing

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 April 2023 09:35 (one year ago) link

Helen Lewis:

Marina Hyde’s column gets a pass here [...] Her column works because she’s Marina Goddamn Hyde, that’s why

https://helenlewis.substack.com/p/the-bluestocking-vol-226

the pinefox, Sunday, 23 April 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link

contra the thread question, just a shout out for Heather Stewart who is consistently excellent:

https://www.theguardian.com/profile/heatherstewart

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 29 April 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link

"Likewise, the cute squid and the little Rishi were no more than that, a cartoon squid and a short Prime Minister,

A big "oh come on" at this bit.

nashwan, Sunday, 30 April 2023 11:07 (one year ago) link

Deafening silence from all those Guardian writers who were only too willing to associate Corbyn with anti-Semitism.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 April 2023 11:17 (one year ago) link

rowson is just another trenchant melt but he seems to think he's goya

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 30 April 2023 11:21 (one year ago) link

Libs not getting it shocker. Burning the country and risking life against police is nostalgia?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2023/may/01/france-gone-to-hell-politics-nostalgia?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 May 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link

a classic slice of above-it-all smugness, for when you've got no skin in the game

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 May 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/02/post-office-horizon-scandal-inquiry

would it not be possible to report on all this (an undoubtedly worthy subject) without all the whinging about someone being mean to you on Twitter?

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

She is totally twitter poisoned. That inquiry has still some way to go?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link

This post office scandal...I had totally missed it, which is crazy. But looking at it last night I see it's been very much widely reported over the years.

What is Marina Hyde on about?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 10:31 (one year ago) link

Also...the Guardian are no strangers to doing week long reporting on a thing? Panama papers, Charles, etc. Couldn't they do a week long splash on this scandal?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 10:33 (one year ago) link

she's right insofar as it hasn't received the level of coverage it should have done, but that's to do with structural problems in British political-media circles, not because people are scolding JK Rowling on social media

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 10:34 (one year ago) link

Guardian reporters can take the high ground today.

Whatever your views on the monarchy, these pictures should chill you. https://t.co/oAPe5McmPr

— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) May 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 May 2023 10:54 (one year ago) link

A Guardian journo taking the high ground, amazed she left it till the 5th paragraph before the anti-trans idée fixe kicked in. Yes I know it's Sunday so what can you expect

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/07/police-are-curbing-free-speech-not-just-at-behest-of-right-crackdown-mall

hellboy falling through the bar (Matt #2), Sunday, 7 May 2023 14:42 (eleven months ago) link

These people are obsessed.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 May 2023 14:45 (eleven months ago) link

congrats to the LAPPL on finding a new stenographer

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/09/los-angeles-police-department-records-release-undercover-identities

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 17:33 (eleven months ago) link

when you're the heir to an amphetamine fortune pic.twitter.com/HjAR3YREJC

— David East (@davideastUK) May 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 08:09 (eleven months ago) link

lol!

calzino, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 08:39 (eleven months ago) link

I'm sure she wrote for Sounds in the late 70's. Not read it but it's worth remembering that Thatcher considered sleep quite overrated and inessential.

calzino, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 08:43 (eleven months ago) link

"faster you fuckers" is no way to live

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 09:55 (eleven months ago) link

Really enjoyed reading a column, for a change.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/may/14/my-father-is-obese-and-i-cant-stand-being-around-him-ask-philippa-perry

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 May 2023 09:16 (eleven months ago) link

my column would've been "Fuck off"

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 May 2023 09:42 (eleven months ago) link

Would be an improvement

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 May 2023 14:26 (eleven months ago) link

Liew is really good. Just laying out the facts, plainly and simply

"So you don’t just sign Erling Haaland, you sign Julián Álvarez to give him a rest. Kalvin Phillips arrives for £45m, doesn’t play all season, and it’s fine. You decide – and just reflect on the breathtaking audacity of this for a second – that you need an upgrade on Phil Foden, and so up pops Jack Grealish. If someone accuses you of breaking the rules, you hire the world’s greatest lawyers to shoot them down. This is perfection, but not so much the perfection of great art as the perfection of a finely-executed military campaign, the perfection of unlimited wealth, the perfection of political strength, the perfection of a pointless mile-high crystal pyramid in the middle of the desert. No academy players and no Mancunians started for City last night. Does this matter? Does anything matter?"

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/may/17/manchester-citys-inexorable-hard-power-crushes-real-madrid

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 May 2023 07:43 (eleven months ago) link

I'm hoping Inter spend the entire match in their own half and then win on penalties.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 May 2023 08:28 (eleven months ago) link

First headline article on the site this morning, have you ever read such a piece of shite?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/21/senior-tories-say-trump-style-takeover-could-precipitate-party-meltdown

The former cabinet minister Matt Hancock told the Observer: “The Conservative party is finished if it succumbs to a Trumpian-style takeover. These Conservative Corbynistas are as destructive to the Tories as leftwing activists were to Labour.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 21 May 2023 06:19 (eleven months ago) link

Lets pretend there is a meaningful distinction between the right and the so-called moderates of the Tories because it helps to feed an illusion of a political pluralism that doesn't really exist.

They are mostly all parroting more or less the same illiberal Trumpian stuff re: trans rights, law and order and immigration policy (as are Labour), sure some of them use more openly fascistic rhetoric. And some of them are still sore about the electorally suicidal Truss tax cuts getting shitcanned, and plus are divided on what position to take on nimbyism. But I'd only call them factions in the sense of they are intra-party cliques of rivals who hate each other.

calzino, Sunday, 21 May 2023 08:48 (eleven months ago) link

Calzino OTM.

the pinefox, Sunday, 21 May 2023 09:31 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/19/national-conservatism-conference-leftwing-dark-age

This piece hits on some of the points Calzino is making. But I also felt that this was as much about where do the always unhappy racists go after they've been given everything they want through Brexit.

And Brexit was a 25 year project for these freaks. It was laughed at the beginning like this was.

The biggest issues for this to work are decline of newspapers and the decline of the state that gives a sizeable portion of people security and faith in what it does. It just won't deliver pensions and retirement and secure housing.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 May 2023 11:54 (eleven months ago) link

The Guardian has treated the Nat-C event with kid gloves mostly, even putting a video on YouTube titled 'The most memorable moments from...'.

nashwan, Sunday, 21 May 2023 12:08 (eleven months ago) link

NEW: Seven women say the columnist Nick Cohen groped them or made unwanted sexual advances while he was at The Observer.

A Financial Times reporter had the story, but her editor killed it. https://t.co/ETopgAUW25

— Jane Bradley (@jane__bradley) May 30, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 07:33 (eleven months ago) link


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