Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

i'm not sure why haley wouldn't want it - she proudly served under trump and still, to my knowledge, is unwilling to name a single thing about trump that she doesn't support, or anything she would do differently. i don't think he'd name her vp, though, because she dared to run against him this year. very unloyal.

kari lake seems possible, as does greene

if his draining the swamp includes abolishing the Senate, then he may not need a VP at all

I may be overestimating Haley's intelligence, but being his vice president is clearly a terrible, awful job. He urged a mob to kill his last one iirc.

i guess i'm assuming he's going full on troll for his vp pick. pence is a horrible person, but he represented a compromise to appease delusional people like chuck todd who saw some sort of pivot toward conventional behavior as imminent and necessary for a successful gop candidate. trump put up with pence but also had white nationalists try to murder him. he's going to be embroiled in lawsuits for the duration of this campaign and i'm sure they'll magically peak in summer 2024, just at the point where people start saying that "the people need to decide" via voting, so it's tough to imagine him picking anyone other than the loudest loyal liar

xp

I guess someone like Kristi Noem might do it. She's about as close to a conventional pick as I can imagine being willing to take it on.

haha, just remembering her bragging to the nra the other day about how her 2-year-old granddaughter already owns a shotgun and a rifle. and also a pony. by today's standards it was barely newsworthy but holy shit are they fucked up

if he picks someone like Kari Lake or MTG it'll be a huge gift to the Dems. the VP picks of people like Trump, Biden, and McCain did have some weight to them because the candidates themselves were so old. I mean you could argue picking Sarah Palin singlehandedly tanked McCain in '08. good luck courting the votes of moderates when your extremely unhealthy 77-year old candidate's backup is the Jewish space laser "gazpacho police" lady. I kinda think Trump at least kinda knows that these people are crazy losers who won't do much to help him but who knows. Trump is a crazy loser himself these days. and honestly what kind of actual up-and-coming moderate is gonna want that job?

Lol at “I have put myself on hold”

look I don't wanna get overly confident here but how the hell is Trump gonna do any better in 2024 than he did in 2020? he's gotten even weirder and angrier since and now is facing a lot of actual legal trouble. paying off a porn star may not hurt him much but trying to defraud the election in Georgia, inciting an insurrection, and stealing top secret documents might. Republicans have been geting trounced in nearly every single election since 2016. the abortion issue is killing them right now. they won back the House and haven't written a single bill since. their entire platform is weird unpopular shit like showing the world Hunter Biden's dick and facilitating the genocide of trans people. he won't have the incumbent advantage either which history tells us is a big deal (hell, even Dubya won re-election). I suppose I can see a strange confluence of events pushing him just over the finish line by like 500 votes in all the right states but idk, if I was a GOP politician right now I'd be thinking 2024 was just hopeless

While incumbents do have an advantage, Trump could benefit from the independents who like voting for the rebel candidate from the party not in power. The same voters who say they vote for Republican Senators but Democratic Presidents because they "don't want one party to have too much power".

That and Biden's currently low favorability likely gives him a legit shot.

But, the election cycle gives Trump ample opportunity to shoot himself in the foot so

Pay operatives to approach Trump under the guide of being a conservative blogger and con him into saying really terrible shit on tape that he stopped himself from saying last time

could be a bad recession next cycle biden could fall down the stairs or whatever

We're definitely not in the "Trump has no shot" wilderness anymore.

The same voters who say they vote for Republican Senators but Democratic Presidents because they "don't want one party to have too much power".

Feel like the Republican Party is turning those people off too, considering they’re actively trying to make it illegal to vote for Democrats

Feel like Tim Scott talking about running is a pure VP audition.

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Uh oh Alfred you're gonna get sued.

financial times more like financial crimes

DeSantis the obvious VP pick?

Usually you’d think so and maybe it’ll happen, but a.) two candidates from the same state would really put the spotlight on Florida and a lot of that won’t play well nationally, and b.) maybe I’m misreading DeSantis but it’s just hard to imagine him willing to play second fiddle to a guy who’s been abusive to him. Plus of course the prospect of losing, which could make it harder for him to run next time around.

DeSantis is a groveling worm, of course he’d accept it

Highly doubt Trump would pick him though

Also it’s unconstitutional to have a pres and VP from the same state, but really who cares about the “Constitution” or “laws”, not these guys. Dick Cheney had to pretend he lived in Wyoming for that reason.

judging from the pence hell pick the most generic possible person he likes the spotlight for himself

That was Steve Brannons pick right?

Also it’s unconstitutional to have a pres and VP from the same state

Oh right, there is that too. DeSantis could move to rust-belt Pennsylvania I guess, since he's already from there in his mind. But anyway, I can't imagine his ego being willing to be anyone's VP. He's already governor of one of the largest states, I don't see him trading down in power.

It's not unconstitutional to have a pres and VP from the same state, the rule is that state can't give their electoral votes to both of them. So Florida's electoral votes couldn't go to DeSantis as VP (and you would risk ending up with like Trump as Pres and Kamala Harris as VP if it was a close election)

I think that's an outcome nobody would have any problem with

well um yeah actually I would have a big problem with Trump being president again

Trump can change his residence to Kansas because he'll be in Leavenworth amirite

Dud

Trump is going to lose again to Joe Fucking Biden.

Biden has at least been better than a caretaker filling that role. For a man of his advanced age I think he's been remarkably open to taking social policy in new directions.

I think DeSantis has his eye on 2028, no way is he gonna get the Trump taint, which I think will be stronger in 4 yrs even than now, on him for VP.

Biden has started drilling in the arctic but sure let’s complement the man xp

Trump taint

Well, yeah.

Biden has started drilling in the arctic but sure let’s complement the man xp

― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved),

Well, yeah. I expected shit like this. It's Joseph Robinette Biden. I didn't expect him to sign some of the bills presented to him.

new directions

Many people's favorite kind.

Ah, yes, that was an embarrassingly gushing compliment to be sure. Oh, and you seem remarkably able to complete grammatical sentences, if we overlook your spelling.

fuck off Aimless

it's just incredible to me what an absolutely worthless piece of shit you are

look I don't wanna get overly confident here but how the hell is Trump gonna do any better in 2024 than he did in 2020?

haven't a lot of local election boards made it easier to stick their thumb in the pie? isn't that actually the plan?

xp - hey, it was a compliment

yea but there was a lot of fear of that in 2022 too and the only one who made noise about it was Kari Lake who was roundly ignored

sure, but I'm willing to clutch a pearl or two about how those election boards might behave when their figurehead is the one up for election

DeSantis openly speculating about what the state could build next to Walt Disney World:

“Someone even said, maybe you need another state prison…” pic.twitter.com/dlZ2r2OAqZ

— Scott Gustin (@ScottGustin) April 17, 2023

dude is flailing

The all-Goofy wet works team is on standby.

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i get that early polling has him beating biden in some key places but there's just no way. 6 week abortion band plus shitting on the mouse