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But then the M&S setting is just a distraction, which raises the question: if it's decadent to be eating a bun at M&S, why was AB doing it himself?

Completely unfair misrepresentation, he had a chocolate flapjack. Totally different thing

michel goindry (wins), Monday, 17 April 2023 12:47 (one year ago) link

Fair.

the pinefox, Monday, 17 April 2023 12:48 (one year ago) link

There's a vinyl stall in Lower Marsh playing Ian Dury songs, which all the Gen Z ppl in the street seem to know... the equivalent in the 1970s would have been playing Al Bowlly 78s from before the war. #Bifo 's slow cancellation of the future is alive and well pic.twitter.com/1IqQ2363UY

— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) April 17, 2023

I'm not convinced this is such a bad thing.

the pinefox, Monday, 17 April 2023 13:45 (one year ago) link

Enjoying this, and I have to some of it has surprised me (particularly who the ‘new elite’ are).

Obviously I disagree with a great deal - but that will make for a better conversation! I’ll be interviewing @GoodwinMJ for @novaramedia this week. pic.twitter.com/jJVdqGADoP

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) April 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 13:15 (one year ago) link

much to disagree with in the garbage book by widely ridiculed pseudo-academic Goodwin, who would have guessed?

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 13:36 (one year ago) link

so this racist book-eating clown has some enlightening insights for the big lad - he just needs get an honest job at the Mail.

calzino, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link

Why do that? It's the most popular of podcasts.

New media.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah, sorry I forgot that our left-wing new media is the envy of Europe, as stated by Talk TV's Grace Blakely

calzino, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

Novara should interview John Virgo

— Gareth (@g_f_red) April 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 06:51 (one year ago) link

Plus AB says he quite likes some of MG's thinking so..

After all, what's nine decades of the accumulated experience of antifascist activism and organising when you just might be the guy who's come up with the One Weird Trick for platforming these creeps without them benefiting by it https://t.co/xrayInqjBG

— Peter Mitchell (@pdkmitchell) April 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 07:02 (one year ago) link

Reflecting on AB's interviews and controversy around them, what strikes me is:

I have mixed feelings about AB himself as interviewer. He's intelligent, well read, and charismatic. But he is not a forensic interrogator.

If you're going to interview someone with controversial views, then you probably need to be ready to read their work out line by line, make them explain it, and stick with the text, repeating yourself if necessary (think Jeremy Paxman even!), and make clear if you are *not* satisfied with the outcome before moving on.

I don't expect AB to do this but rather a variety of a) be polite, bantering ingratiatingly; b) say 'and up to this point, I totally agree with you', overemphasising agreement; c) interrupt rather than let the guest finish their own statement; d) be drolly anecdotal about himself ('so my dad's a cab driver, and he says...'). Some of this might be fine in particular cases, but in a controversial scenario it will obscure the examination that needs to take place.

Admittedly AB interviews many different people, mainly from the Left; maybe he should be judged on his full record. Most of us have never watched half his interviews.

I didn't see all of his very long encounter with Peter Hitchens but PH was able to correct AB on facts a number of times.

With Roger Hallam, as I've said, AB's approach was troublingly bad, and he appeared out of his depth.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 08:48 (one year ago) link

re AB's jovial interest in interviewing Campbell:

I think it's possible to interview someone without rehab-ing their reputation - so it really depends on the interview.

— Dalia Gebrial (@daliagebrial) April 18, 2023

the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 09:12 (one year ago) link

Has an interviewer on a visual medium ever read a passage from a work out "line by line, explain it, stick with the text". Paxman certainly didn't. Reading the words out loud of someone's book could be an excellent approach though! I feel a lot of these 'thoughts' tend to collapse the moment they are merely read.

Paxman and Bastani certainly sound like one another (not that I am ever watching a full Bastani interview but I saw the clip with Hallam). Lots of interruption, aggressive repetition if the question might not be answered. When I started watching Newsnight I felt entertained, but looking back I don't know what was the point of it. How many insights did I gain on the topic on any given day? I do remember the shouting.

Mostly a waste of time.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 09:45 (one year ago) link

I wish AB would just shame the devil and admit he has decided having ethics and standards are an inconvenience for his career ambitions. And if that means platforming horrible morons who are funded by shady right-wing thinktanks - then he's happy to be the UI benefitting from the extra clicks and views.

calzino, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 10:41 (one year ago) link

It's not a careerist move! You see, we are all different.

Thanks Jacob. I’ve got similar mindset - but of course we are all different!

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) April 19, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 11:11 (one year ago) link

Goodwin has literally trolled people into reading this shit

Bastani is a fucking rube

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 11:19 (one year ago) link

Matt Goodwin@GoodwinMJ21h
Maybe you could convince New Statesman to host? We asked. They declined. Then "ideas editor" (Jacobson) called for the cancellation of thinkers he disagrees with.

even the NS are reluctant to boost Goodwin

calzino, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 11:30 (one year ago) link

it's good that all the people who hate antisemitism have been calling him on this thinly-veiled antisemitism tho

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 11:33 (one year ago) link

Quite a day on the internet for the boy.

https://t.co/Hy0nMm6NUp pic.twitter.com/vjvqC4th39

— hippo king archibald (@SamuraiApology) April 19, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:51 (one year ago) link

this feels like the absolute moment of fucking himself forever

we see you, you sad twat

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

and now i've got "Everybody Wants to Be a Melt" stuck in my head, to the tune of that Aristocats song

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

Yeah, as I've said before on this thread, I don't expect integrity from left journalists, but I do expect enough intelligence not to become this useful an idiot.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link

I'd like a bit of integrity.

Anyway, saw a tweet that speculated that their subs base has struggled due to inflation/gas bills and hence this turn but idk I think it's just the way it's gone since 2019. Integrity (that word again) is not in the vocabulary anymore.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link

I don't think integrity is something journalism is structurally built for.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link

From that point of view very little functions...I agree to an extent though on a personal/small group level I reckon it's possible to exercise a bit of control about certain behaviours. I think with a left leaning platform it's not an impossible ask.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link

This is designed to troll me

This letter from David in Bristol didn't put landlords in a good light.

But @AaronBastani had a pretty incredible story about a landlord he and his mum had when he was a child. (3/5) pic.twitter.com/jN251yB7t1

— Michael Walker (@michaeljswalker) April 19, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

Imagine spending 1h and 40 mins of your time on this

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link

love to hear uplifting stories about good landlords with hearts of gold, or it might not be that at all. But I don't feel a strong compulsion to find out either.

calzino, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link

the mythical good landlord that gifts you a nice bottle of wine before hesitantly giving you a section 21 notice rather than just telling you to fuck off, scumbag

calzino, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link

Actually it turns out that AB says his former landlord was good because religious and landlords are now worse because 'we live in a society that is moving away from the ethical anchoring of religion'.

the pinefox, Thursday, 20 April 2023 08:54 (one year ago) link

Jesus didn't approve of black mold or greedy scumbags who make gain from their neighbours by means of extortion, imo

calzino, Thursday, 20 April 2023 09:01 (one year ago) link

AB is doing a Pasolini style act!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 April 2023 09:05 (one year ago) link

From that point of view very little functions...I agree to an extent though on a personal/small group level I reckon it's possible to exercise a bit of control about certain behaviours. I think with a left leaning platform it's not an impossible ask.

The bottom line of any private media company, left leaning platforms included, is always going to be profit, what happens on a personal/small group level is irrelevant to that, you'll always end in "is mastercard a queer ally?" territory. So instead of individual morality, I prefer to think of left media in strategic terms, a little like the structures of the labour party: something that can occasionally be mobilized to the left's advantage, but not something you should ever invest loyalty in or expect loyalty from.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 April 2023 09:37 (one year ago) link

Like I was thinking of certain publications around libcom that I've read bits from. Small groups, publication is erratic at best and so on. A different set of problems there but at least they know what they are talking about wrt landlordism.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 April 2023 09:51 (one year ago) link

Of course the preening “Gary’s Economics”, the man in the know, telling unexpected truths to a reverent audience (look at Walker & Bastani’s faces) is incapable of this sort of argument though.

— Tom Gann (@Tom_Gann) April 22, 2023

Agree with this. I don't like the person being discussed.

the pinefox, Saturday, 22 April 2023 10:31 (one year ago) link

"@garyseconomics thinks anti-landlord politics can - at times - look like middle class people punching down."

lol, what an utter prick

calzino, Saturday, 22 April 2023 10:50 (one year ago) link

if you are going to defend the politically indefensible and haven't got any coherent argument, just accuse anyone from the left of being myopically middle-class.

calzino, Saturday, 22 April 2023 11:03 (one year ago) link

I fear that 'preening' is correct. Not keen.

the pinefox, Saturday, 22 April 2023 11:46 (one year ago) link

They’ve definitely got our vote Basti.#WorldBollardAssociation

— World Bollard Association™ (@WorldBollard) April 24, 2023

the pinefox, Monday, 24 April 2023 22:05 (one year ago) link

AB on GB News ... at Buckingham Palace!

The @Telegraph & others are campaigning for the U.K. taxpayer to subsidise Tom Ford shoes & Gucci handbags for tourists who come to the U.K.

If you buy a suit you pay VAT, but if a tourist buys the same suit your taxes pay for their discount.

WTF?! pic.twitter.com/oby739x8Qz

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) May 4, 2023

the pinefox, Friday, 5 May 2023 08:14 (one year ago) link

who even gives a flying shit about subsidising tourists? The eejit wants to be a spokesperson for the Taxpayers Alliance now

calzino, Friday, 5 May 2023 08:57 (one year ago) link

Novara is good now.

The thing the East German Communist dictatorship was most successful at was building a wall to prevent people leaving and shooting those who tried.

Disgraceful to think people who write this nonsense were welcomed by the hard left leadership that poisoned Labour under Corbyn. https://t.co/aMLPSVN4Es

— Ian Austin (@LordIanAustin) May 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 12:57 (eleven months ago) link

Stfu!

I have one real regret with Fully Automated Luxury Communism. I got something very badly wrong…

I didn’t have the courage to back my hypothesis as strongly as I should have. More & more people I speak to think an artificial general intelligence is possible in the next decade… pic.twitter.com/5FIX6qzb7P

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) May 18, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:31 (eleven months ago) link

My basic problem with FALC, tho I enjoy the style & general bravura argument, is that its economics are duff. Sure you can imagine Romer AK model will run forever and we can all be infinitely rich, but it is increasingly clear our core growth models fail to describe growth… 1/n https://t.co/07soTLxsyA

— James Meadway (@meadwaj) May 18, 2023

the pinefox, Friday, 19 May 2023 09:41 (eleven months ago) link

Ok this is actually good.

We’d pay a cleaner our freelance rate, yes.

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) May 19, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 May 2023 10:17 (eleven months ago) link

Strong, though rambling, statement from Allardyce.

Big Sam on AI and job layoffs.

Mr Allardyce is welcome on @novaramedia to discuss automation and climate change any time @LUFC! pic.twitter.com/XqyY4LsnIt

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) May 19, 2023

the pinefox, Saturday, 20 May 2023 16:16 (eleven months ago) link

William Blake said that the idea God would have ever have a singular voice was unthinkable because a voice is by definition a finite thing and God is infinite, and you've got ppl like this going 'ooohhh this one chatbot software knows my subway order, what have we done?' https://t.co/ApGmZCfBXX

— Nettles #ElbitIsGuilty (@problemcl0wn) May 21, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 May 2023 22:30 (eleven months ago) link

Really outstanding answer from Arnold Schwarzenegger explaining the rationale of protest groups like Just Stop Oil. pic.twitter.com/pU4Z9cBNH3

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) May 21, 2023

the pinefox, Monday, 22 May 2023 09:55 (eleven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

AB is set to become a father for the first time. I'm glad for him and his wife, who is plainly a generous and sincere person.

In terms of Novara content I imagine it will go along with AB mellowing further and more often telling assailants "you're a grown man, log off and enjoy life with your children".

the pinefox, Monday, 5 June 2023 17:38 (eleven months ago) link

I'm not certain re the original substance here - think Creasy had a better point than usual in the first place - but AB is correct to say that this is juvenile and totally inappropriate from an elected parliamentarian.

If I'm reading this right, Stella misread 'racist' as a 5-letter word and thought up an absolute slam-dunk on this mistaken premise. https://t.co/C6rWKxPkMz

— The Jim Foundation #PCFA (@DunceFoundation) June 10, 2023

the pinefox, Saturday, 10 June 2023 12:05 (ten months ago) link


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