Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

the Trump of the 80s did not seem as thoroughly unlikeable and mean spirited as Biff was, though in hindsight he got it exactly right, which is pretty nuts considering Biff is one of the most unsubtle characters in cinematic history

I hope he rots in hell and soon
This was a grueling read and it breaks my heart that she hasn't had a romantic relationship or interation since this event.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/26/e-jean-carroll-trump-testimony/

("this event" = being sexually assaulted by Donald Trump)

got him

Trump on John McCain’s funeral:

“Just like his wars, it never ended.” pic.twitter.com/DiDbZLJcCY

— David Pinsen (@dpinsen) April 26, 2023

when he defames mccain i see clearly the thrill he gives his followers

he's still got it

A former colleague of mine grew up not far from Orlando and used to go to Disney World regularly. He once dropped acid and got off the boat in Pirates. They had to coax him out of the scenery. That was his story, anyway.

saw some thing about how disney doesnt allow people to scatter loved ones ashes at the parks but people are always doing it anyway lol wild stuff

If my loved ones dump my ashes in the Magic Kingdom, I'm coming back and haunting their asses.

thats how they got the haunted house ride

my ashes are only permitted to be dumped on Tom G Warrior's head.

even if he dies before I do.

Wow, the only thing more cringe than having your ashes scattered in a corporate theme park is having your ashes surreptitiously scattered in a corporate theme park because the corporation actively doesn't want people scattering ashes there.

Like I am reasonably fond of Fender guitars and Jim Beam whiskey. But if the guitar factory and/ot whiskey distillery did not want my ashes to be placed there, I would not want my descendants to actively go against the wishes of the business.

if you throw your ashes where they not wanted and someone eats or drinks yr ashes by mistake u got nobody to blame but urself

A pair of students two classes before mine got expelled for getting caught tripping at Disney World.

I hope he rots in hell and soon
This was a grueling read and it breaks my heart that she hasn't had a romantic relationship or interation since this event.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/26/e-jean-carroll-trump-testimony/

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:55 AM bookmarkflaglink

FYI, there is a rape trial happening against Donald Trump now.

Sadly, it is a civil suit, so he won't go to prison.

Think the point's more that it's a bit jarring and uncomfortable for the posts after Lechera's to be lols at the man's quips and theme park talk.

theme park talk convo began well before LL's post

you gotta wait seven posts thats the rule

Yes I am aware Neanderthal, don't think that changes anything tbh.

I never found the guy 'funny' and entertaining to talk about, esp during his campaign in 2016 - yeah, we all didn't think he had a chance in Hell to win, but the ugliness and toxicity he was encouraging made me to distressed to enjoy any part of it. only cathartic LOLs at his expense when he was soundly defeated brought me joy.

I think the theme park convo emerged from one of many tangents that came out of bashing DeSantis. i don't begrudge that, we're all living in Hell right now and sometimes need a little diversion.

but yes it is worth remembering Trump is a literal rapist and monster and as much as we would love the guy to get his legal comeuppance, we'd all be better off if he just fuckin dropped dead

pretty sure everyone here knows hes bad

I think we all agree that his death will be the first good thing he's done for anyone else.

It's more to do with this theme park talk after that a link to that testimony was dropped yesterday.

you guys should see some of the other stuff hes done

Guys your stale zings aren’t as important as maybe discussing the literal trial against him now, if you’re not interested then you’re free not to comment, but we’re also free to look at how eager people were to change the subject when that testimony was posted, and draw our own conclusions.

I can speak only for myself, I didn't mean to change the subject, the crosstalk is just sometimes hard to keep up with. I don't think anyone is interested in minimizing his egregious behavior, I just have zero hope that anything resembling justice will come of this latest trial.

no ones changing subject lol get a grip

Justice would be him getting eaten by rabid jackals.

im pretty sure im the one who hates him the most and understands how bad he is

Yeah whatever you’re so irony poisoned it doesn’t matter, I get it

xp Marla?

Dud

yes everyone who isnt behaving according to you thread rules must be poisoned ok

It is pretty easy to get jaded when this motherfucker does quite literally whatever the hell he wants and suffers absolutely no consequences.

If what you're getting from these posts is "these ppl think we don't know Trump is bad" you're very much missing the point.

mamy xposts

lagoon, friend, you’re being an asshole

xp Thanks for the explainer.

lagoon, friend, you’re being an asshole

― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, April 27, 2023 5:13 PM (thirty-seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

nope sorry im drawing the line here feel free to message me if you want to talk more

That was directed at lagoon, not you jim.

xpost

Peace

If what you're getting from these posts is "these ppl think we don't know Trump is bad" you're very much missing the point.

― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, April 27, 2023 5:12 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

what exactly is the point here i looked back and i cant even follow the thread tbh

the important thing is to immediately assume bad faith

I just wanted to post about what he did to E Jean and how sad it made me that it affected her life so entirely. I don’t care if he goes to prison for it — I care that we never forget who he is and it’s also worth remembering how brave a person has to be to take him on publicly. E Jean Carroll had a pretty good life going and then this asshead came along in her 50s and assaulted her. Just wtf. That’s all.

yeah its awful, hes awful, i hope she and others hes harmed can find some relief

It's extraordinary both legally and financially that E. Jean Carroll could bring this claim at all. A lot of mountains had to be moved to bring this to trial. Her testimony is harrowing and 100% credible.

Amanda Marcotte: https://www.salon.com/2023/04/27/e-jean-carroll-rape-trial-full-misogny/

Reading about this trial it’s the same old pattern that repeats over centuries cos it works. Trump’s lawyer is constantly picking holes, knowing that he doesn’t have to completely demolish the story (which he can’t) and just suggesting lack of credibility is enough, which usually it is. Women lie, they’re motivated by money, they do contradictory things, it doesn’t matter that my client is as prolific a liar as you’ll meet, what about her, what did she do. It goes from what he did to what she did, and there honestly is a point where these strategies are so well known, and yet people still fucking fall for them. Misogyny is so pervasive. I can’t imagine a number in the world large enough to persuade me to bring a trial against this man, let alone for this, if I was in her shoes. I imagine she must live in constant fear and although her transcripts read as calm, she’s had a lot of time to think about it and it’s just what happened. I wish her well but I fear the worst.

yeah i hope she wins a gets some money at least but the risk of bringing the suit is pretty big, like im sure shes effectively in hiding now and prob will be for a while

That article BrianB posted about the misogyny defense makes a good point about framing.

"The misogyny defense attempts to shift the frame from "did he do it?" to "isn't she annoying by making a fuss over this?" So many of us have been conditioned to dismiss women's voices that the misogyny defense still, in 2023, has a whole lot of power."