Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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a classic slice of above-it-all smugness, for when you've got no skin in the game

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 May 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/02/post-office-horizon-scandal-inquiry

would it not be possible to report on all this (an undoubtedly worthy subject) without all the whinging about someone being mean to you on Twitter?

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

She is totally twitter poisoned. That inquiry has still some way to go?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link

This post office scandal...I had totally missed it, which is crazy. But looking at it last night I see it's been very much widely reported over the years.

What is Marina Hyde on about?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 10:31 (one year ago) link

Also...the Guardian are no strangers to doing week long reporting on a thing? Panama papers, Charles, etc. Couldn't they do a week long splash on this scandal?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 10:33 (one year ago) link

she's right insofar as it hasn't received the level of coverage it should have done, but that's to do with structural problems in British political-media circles, not because people are scolding JK Rowling on social media

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 10:34 (one year ago) link

Guardian reporters can take the high ground today.

Whatever your views on the monarchy, these pictures should chill you. https://t.co/oAPe5McmPr

— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) May 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 May 2023 10:54 (one year ago) link

A Guardian journo taking the high ground, amazed she left it till the 5th paragraph before the anti-trans idée fixe kicked in. Yes I know it's Sunday so what can you expect

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/07/police-are-curbing-free-speech-not-just-at-behest-of-right-crackdown-mall

hellboy falling through the bar (Matt #2), Sunday, 7 May 2023 14:42 (eleven months ago) link

These people are obsessed.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 May 2023 14:45 (eleven months ago) link

congrats to the LAPPL on finding a new stenographer

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/09/los-angeles-police-department-records-release-undercover-identities

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 17:33 (eleven months ago) link

when you're the heir to an amphetamine fortune pic.twitter.com/HjAR3YREJC

— David East (@davideastUK) May 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 08:09 (eleven months ago) link

lol!

calzino, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 08:39 (eleven months ago) link

I'm sure she wrote for Sounds in the late 70's. Not read it but it's worth remembering that Thatcher considered sleep quite overrated and inessential.

calzino, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 08:43 (eleven months ago) link

"faster you fuckers" is no way to live

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 09:55 (eleven months ago) link

Really enjoyed reading a column, for a change.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/may/14/my-father-is-obese-and-i-cant-stand-being-around-him-ask-philippa-perry

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 May 2023 09:16 (eleven months ago) link

my column would've been "Fuck off"

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 May 2023 09:42 (eleven months ago) link

Would be an improvement

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 May 2023 14:26 (eleven months ago) link

Liew is really good. Just laying out the facts, plainly and simply

"So you don’t just sign Erling Haaland, you sign Julián Álvarez to give him a rest. Kalvin Phillips arrives for £45m, doesn’t play all season, and it’s fine. You decide – and just reflect on the breathtaking audacity of this for a second – that you need an upgrade on Phil Foden, and so up pops Jack Grealish. If someone accuses you of breaking the rules, you hire the world’s greatest lawyers to shoot them down. This is perfection, but not so much the perfection of great art as the perfection of a finely-executed military campaign, the perfection of unlimited wealth, the perfection of political strength, the perfection of a pointless mile-high crystal pyramid in the middle of the desert. No academy players and no Mancunians started for City last night. Does this matter? Does anything matter?"

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/may/17/manchester-citys-inexorable-hard-power-crushes-real-madrid

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 May 2023 07:43 (eleven months ago) link

I'm hoping Inter spend the entire match in their own half and then win on penalties.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 May 2023 08:28 (eleven months ago) link

First headline article on the site this morning, have you ever read such a piece of shite?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/21/senior-tories-say-trump-style-takeover-could-precipitate-party-meltdown

The former cabinet minister Matt Hancock told the Observer: “The Conservative party is finished if it succumbs to a Trumpian-style takeover. These Conservative Corbynistas are as destructive to the Tories as leftwing activists were to Labour.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 21 May 2023 06:19 (eleven months ago) link

Lets pretend there is a meaningful distinction between the right and the so-called moderates of the Tories because it helps to feed an illusion of a political pluralism that doesn't really exist.

They are mostly all parroting more or less the same illiberal Trumpian stuff re: trans rights, law and order and immigration policy (as are Labour), sure some of them use more openly fascistic rhetoric. And some of them are still sore about the electorally suicidal Truss tax cuts getting shitcanned, and plus are divided on what position to take on nimbyism. But I'd only call them factions in the sense of they are intra-party cliques of rivals who hate each other.

calzino, Sunday, 21 May 2023 08:48 (eleven months ago) link

Calzino OTM.

the pinefox, Sunday, 21 May 2023 09:31 (eleven months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/19/national-conservatism-conference-leftwing-dark-age

This piece hits on some of the points Calzino is making. But I also felt that this was as much about where do the always unhappy racists go after they've been given everything they want through Brexit.

And Brexit was a 25 year project for these freaks. It was laughed at the beginning like this was.

The biggest issues for this to work are decline of newspapers and the decline of the state that gives a sizeable portion of people security and faith in what it does. It just won't deliver pensions and retirement and secure housing.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 May 2023 11:54 (eleven months ago) link

The Guardian has treated the Nat-C event with kid gloves mostly, even putting a video on YouTube titled 'The most memorable moments from...'.

nashwan, Sunday, 21 May 2023 12:08 (eleven months ago) link

NEW: Seven women say the columnist Nick Cohen groped them or made unwanted sexual advances while he was at The Observer.

A Financial Times reporter had the story, but her editor killed it. https://t.co/ETopgAUW25

— Jane Bradley (@jane__bradley) May 30, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 07:33 (eleven months ago) link

the wall of silence in UK media from so-called respectable journos and suppression of reportage that enabled and protected an offender for years must seem quite fucked up from the outside. That accompanying NYT pic looked like a Constable painting on my phone.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 07:56 (eleven months ago) link

once again the NYT putting the British press to shame, god knows the Grey Lady has its problems but at least it manages to do some actual journalism now and again

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 08:12 (eleven months ago) link

another inevitable angle to this story of evil people revelling in evil

Hearing reports that the "gender criticals" are far less motivated by their opposition to misogyny than by their obsessive hatred of trans people, huge if true https://t.co/LdtPvNtnRZ

— Juliet. (@zinovievletter) May 30, 2023

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 09:00 (eleven months ago) link

is that D L I see on the thread of transphobic journos and degenerate creeps who were dismissing this as a whispering campaign against Cohen? shurely shome mistake

calzino, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 09:13 (eleven months ago) link

"these are false accusations from trans activists and Putinists" is a very normal line to take amongst this whole crowd of monsters

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 09:17 (eleven months ago) link

NC often appears on Podmasters programmes, where DL is also a contributor. Lay the blame for 🐙 continued appearances at the feet of Podmaster in chief/ex-Select editor Andrew Harrison rather than DL.

steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 09:24 (eleven months ago) link

when did DL stop posting on here? he was still around when I started. maybe he's still here, who knows?

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 09:30 (eleven months ago) link

xp I don't think anyone *blames* the tv am egg looking prick for anything to do with Cohen. Just pointing out the crowd he's running with. Not like anyone would care if he wasn't an ex-poster here

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 09:46 (eleven months ago) link

After women complained of Nick Cohen's behaviour, it's embarrassing that Hadley's take is "look how the New York Times is mocking us Brits" pic.twitter.com/10GzthINCu

— RobotMaths (@robotmaths) May 30, 2023

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 13:08 (eleven months ago) link

even if he was constantly pissed for years, what kind of excuse is that? if anything it makes their silence and complicity even worse

calzino, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 13:22 (eleven months ago) link

Feel like this is now a recurring pattern in the Guardian:

Cost of living crisis? Won't somebody think of the shopkeepers?!?!
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/01/one-guy-uses-us-like-a-larder-the-british-shoplifting-crisis-as-seen-from-the-tills

Risk of Labour doing something moderately progressive? Won't somebody think of the smaller private schools?!?!
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/may/31/small-independent-schools-on-labour-private-school-tax-policy

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 1 June 2023 09:18 (eleven months ago) link

NC often appears on Podmasters programmes, where DL is also a contributor. Lay the blame for 🐙 continued appearances at the feet of Podmaster in chief/ex-Select editor Andrew Harrison rather than DL.


He’s been clear enough where he stands on this and it isn’t with the women

Perfectly normal behaviour https://t.co/XuDubJbITb

— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) October 3, 2021

michel goindry (wins), Thursday, 1 June 2023 10:03 (eleven months ago) link

Maybe also why NC got paid off.

It doesn't remotely excuse the organisations who covered up for him, but a not-insignificant reason people (even people he mistreated) kept quiet about Nick is ... pity. https://t.co/HCqhM5PJuZ

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 June 2023 11:14 (eleven months ago) link

One of the people that RT-ed that tweet is one of the victims

Taken me a while to want to comment on this. What I will say is that lots of people have self-disgust and despair. Most of us don't attempt to disseminate that stuff to the people around us. And if we find we have hurt someone, we take responsibility and we say sorry to them. https://t.co/7T8aqWZ9Au

— S Richards (@Sus_Richards) June 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 June 2023 11:23 (eleven months ago) link

15. Reporting on the recent CBI sexual assault charges @guardian quotes former CBI president, “People decided to go to the newspapers and not speak to us directly, which in itself points to something wrong with our culture,” [Damian McBride of CBI]

— lucy siegle (@lucysiegle) June 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:06 (eleven months ago) link

Is that the Damian McBride?

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:40 (eleven months ago) link

apparently the former CBI president is Brian McBride, Graun pieces vmic

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:45 (eleven months ago) link

lol

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:51 (eleven months ago) link

The word you're looking for is 'shot'. https://t.co/Qiq9HxewgD

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 9 June 2023 08:23 (ten months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/11/labour-opposition-power-keir-starmer-party

Harris considers the possibility that KS might be authoritarian in power.

Along the way he naturally asserts that JC was similar.

the pinefox, Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:45 (ten months ago) link

absolutely insane paragraph to publish pic.twitter.com/CDVBF46jYF

— Horace Goodwill, tonicke purveyor (@eff_hey) June 11, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 June 2023 22:16 (ten months ago) link

the gulag is too good for these

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 June 2023 23:57 (ten months ago) link

Say what you like about Hitler, at least he had rules

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 12 June 2023 00:47 (ten months ago) link

having statistical preferences when selecting one's victims hardly amounts to "having rules"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 June 2023 00:51 (ten months ago) link

oh this pumper is the guy who wrote a book about how the Putin regime (unlike Western democracies where governments are transparent and honest as the day is long) use lies and misinformation to melt reality.

calzino, Monday, 12 June 2023 06:12 (ten months ago) link


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