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well, I was always a bit skeptical about the permanence of the movement in 2020 regarding less progressive folks.

but I feel like homeless people have gotten short shrift in this country form all sides no matter what societal changes have been going on. I find self-identified 'liberal' folk still feel very comfortable making derogatory comments about homeless people. i always challenge anybody who does it but it gets tiring because it almost always becomes a "you're being insensitive to ME" DARVO type thing

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 May 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

It seems erratic. One day “defund the police” is a mainstream slogan, the next day “murder the homeless” is an argument that is acceptable in polite company. Perhaps it is just different people getting the microphone at different times, but for a social media user the shift is very jarring and insane.

treeship., Friday, 5 May 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link

Your last sentence gets it right. It's not so much that "the discussion has shifted"; it's "Who the fuck let all these lunatics in the room?" and the answer is, of course, Elon Musk.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 5 May 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link

seems like kind of a natural outgrowth of calling anyone who doesn't share your viewpoint an NPC

frogbs, Friday, 5 May 2023 20:19 (one year ago) link

The Young Turks started lashing out at homeless people awhile back, and hatred of the homeless seemed to have something to do with the celeb support for Rick Caruso in the LA Mayoral race.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 5 May 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link

Scapegoating the vulnerable

treeship., Friday, 5 May 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

uhhh are these good numbers for a subscription service

Over half of Twitter Blue's earliest subscribers are no longer subscribed

Out of about 150,000 of the first subscribers to Twitter Blue, only 68,157 have stuck around and maintained a paid subscription. https://t.co/Mtvgca79EB

— Travis Akers (@travisakers) May 5, 2023

frogbs, Friday, 5 May 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link

more like Twitter Brown

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 May 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

Like at least Bernie Goetz fans went through the motions of pretending he was being robbed. This is just like straight up "Someday, a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets."

that is exactly what this is. we are living in some shitty times that took a long time to make, but they are 100% here imo.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 5 May 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link

we also just had two Black siblings who were shot at after pulling into the wrong driveway, where the shooter actually shot at them as they drove away, and the local cops said they had no reason to believe they did anything illegal. but we know why they really didn't arrest the guy and that wasn't it.

vigilante justice is sanctioned but only for one race

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 May 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link

they found "no reason to believe the guy who shot at them did anything illegal", to be clear.

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 May 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link

I was absolutely convinced that right wing blue checkmark people were getting amplified to be the first replies to the few people I follow, enough so that I brought it up with my wife. But she just looked at her own account and didn't see anything like that, and when I opened my computer to look, suddenly the replies seemed more normal once again, too. Maybe the dummies at Twitter flipped the switch back, because it was backfiring?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 May 2023 03:27 (one year ago) link

block post

"not interested in science?"

block post

"not interested in authors?"

it's more that i can't read Turkish and those posts were both in Turkish

koogs, Saturday, 6 May 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link

looking at who Elon is replying/boosting this week, might be time to stop posting if you’re still on there

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 6 May 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link

hes going full nazi

lag∞n, Saturday, 6 May 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

He’s going full nazi

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 6 May 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link

I feel like people are posting things now as honey traps to lure the blue checks out of their holes so sane people can mute/block them. I saw a photo of Tom Morello playing guitar in front of a graphic reading NAZI LIVES DON'T MATTER and immediately muted every blue-check account in the comments — without exception, it was a parade of whatabouts (mostly having to do with Ukraine) and hit dogs hollering.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 6 May 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link

Could be a good time to stop posting

z_tbd, Saturday, 6 May 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

on Twitter.

posting on ILX is lucrative and recommended

z_tbd, Saturday, 6 May 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

time to stop posting

It turns out @elonmusk is a straight up white supremacist. pic.twitter.com/Z6huv0hLox

— Max Berger (@maxberger) May 6, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 6 May 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link

I never tweeted much and totally stopped (and deleted my personal account) shortly after Musk bought it. But I can’t delete my professional account because I need to be able to follow the people I cover as long as they’re on there. I imagine a lot of reporters are in that situation.

it's rare that someone has both the will and the means to show the world every micron of their ass

De Smurfführer (cat), Saturday, 6 May 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link

i wish it was more rare

De Smurfführer (cat), Saturday, 6 May 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link

keep account if necessary, no need to post. that's what i've been doing

z_tbd, Saturday, 6 May 2023 20:27 (one year ago) link

last person to post on twitter is the grossest turd

z_tbd, Saturday, 6 May 2023 20:28 (one year ago) link

lmao jack just posted a “skeet” that was just this link jfc

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rfk-jr-podcast/id1552000243?i=1000604704669

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 6 May 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link

MrBeast just followed me

Probably heard I was worth $191M (23 yrs old) pic.twitter.com/UAhsVUzkwn

— Hassan | NEW MONEY (@MrOverpaid) May 6, 2023

Blue checks lying about being followed by Mr. Beast for clout.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 6 May 2023 22:28 (one year ago) link

When me and my rstshit anarchist friends were yelling that these types of people were straight up fascists intent on destroying the most interesting parts of cities to build playgrounds for themselves and their shitty ideas, no one listened because we sounded insane— but we were right! A lot of this stuff is easy to suss out! No judgment, just sayin’. I am mostly sad about it.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Saturday, 6 May 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link

xpost only reason to do that is to impress 8-year-olds, someone should check his hard drive

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 6 May 2023 22:48 (one year ago) link

Xp I suspected elon was into something “harder” than mischievous anti-PC contrarianism after Grimes liked that genocidal tweet—probably by accident, in that it has been conjectured that she operates white supremacist alt accounts. If you look at the kind of “transhumanist” and “techno-utopian” thinkers they interact with, you can see that these people are eugenecists. Musk’s decision to buy Twitter was likely not a business decision. It also wasn’t about “free speech.” It was likely an attempt to shift the discourse to normalize *this* kind of thought. Not “anti-woke,” not “libertarian,” but racist and authoritarian.

treeship., Saturday, 6 May 2023 23:15 (one year ago) link

https://www.bylinesupplement.com/p/the-far-right-eugenics-mindset-behind

Posted this before but it seems very critical to understanding this stuff. Meanwhile his companies are getting billions of dollars in federal subsidies.

treeship., Saturday, 6 May 2023 23:17 (one year ago) link

Meanwhile his companies are getting billions of dollars in federal subsidies.

where's the contradiction *rimshot of despair*

De Smurfführer (cat), Saturday, 6 May 2023 23:34 (one year ago) link

There's literally not one crime anyone's admitted to this guy doing on the subway, I feel like I'm losing my mind

young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 7 May 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link

Like it got devoured so quickly into culture war stuff that no one stopped to even ask what happened, just completely skipping that step and jumping right into "he's homeless and has a criminal record? ah, well he deserved to die I guess."

young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 7 May 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link

yeah thats what they believe

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 May 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

facts are malleable. narrative is truth..

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 7 May 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link

Yeah I haven't read a single account of the event that explains what the guy was supposedly doing to warrant strangling. Asking for money? Dancing? Yelling?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 May 2023 20:17 (one year ago) link

I think Nick Sandmann and Kyle Rittenhouse were kind of warm ups for this in that the media and social media immediately sensationalized them as grist for the culture war mill. Then ultimately, the other shoe drops, more info comes out and you realize the original reports/reactions were actually a little sensationalized. The right gets to pull their "See, I told you" game and the cycle repeats. It's just that this time, they're running the playbook without even making a case

young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 7 May 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link

I don't know a single person not disgusted by the subway murder, but I have had multiple people in the past few weeks comment on at least a general feeling of a post-pandemic lawlessness here, from rampant smoking on the trains to speeding drivers ignoring stop signs and traffic signals to more acute stuff like carjackings and random shootings. There's only so much you can tell someone "but things were a lot worse in the '90s" or whatever. Of course, to the right wingers and gun nuts and survivalists, in their mind this is probably their worst overinflated fears and predictions come to pass. To a lot of regular people it perhaps encapsulates a certain kind of helplessness, things out of their control, stuff that many of us have ignored for too long that can't be overlooked any longer. I dunno.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 May 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link

Musk’s decision to buy Twitter was likely not a business decision. It also wasn’t about “free speech.” It was likely an attempt to shift the discourse to normalize *this* kind of thought. Not “anti-woke,” not “libertarian,” but racist and authoritarian.

― treeship., Saturday, May 6, 2023 6:15 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I think this implies some kind of savviness or sense of cunning that I think Elon just does not have. remember he desperately tried to back out of the deal and has attempted an emergency reversal of 75% of the decisions he's made after buying the company. it doesn't really feel like Twitter has had the power to drive the public discourse since Trump got banned. certainly one could argue that he's been trying to do that now that he was forced to go through with the deal but he turned the site into an joke on Day 1. in a few years I can't imagine the site being any more influential than Truth Social

frogbs, Sunday, 7 May 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link

To a lot of regular people it perhaps encapsulates a certain kind of helplessness, things out of their control, stuff that many of us have ignored for too long that can't be overlooked any longer. I dunno.

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, May 7, 2023 4:47 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

perfect case study of the liberal brain

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 May 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link

seeing someone offending smoking regulations makes one think of the car jacking from tv, broken windows policing of the mind

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 May 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link

which is not to say there hasnt been some increase in some anti social behaviors but seeing the crime panic shit just ramp up in the most predictable ways is depressing

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 May 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link

Smokers should be executed

Twitter also seems to amplify people's rage due to the insanely heated culture wars that have played out there or years, particularly the hate-filled crew that are on there to hate on libs, minorities, women, woke, and trans people. feels like accelerant on the fire atm

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Sunday, 7 May 2023 22:58 (one year ago) link

Much internet communication, in my experience, tends to magnify the negative and minimize the positive.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 May 2023 23:01 (one year ago) link

and the fact that none of the real inflammatory shit gets taken down any more.

ran into this one tweeter who had tweeted threats to shoot, rape and kill two different people and listed the weapon they'd use to do it, and these tweets were like a week old, still sitting out there. crepey shit will always sneak through social media but when your CEO basically says anything goes, the already slow response time for reporting these things is pretty non-existent now, the bots seem to do all the hunting and killing of bad content, and only if you use the right combination of words.

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Sunday, 7 May 2023 23:02 (one year ago) link

Much internet communication, in my experience, tends to magnify the negative and minimize the positive.


I feel like all of this has happened again and again, the rage, grievance, & racism omnipresent - just waiting for you to invite it in - only successive generations of the Internet have made it faster and worse. Which is what the internet does: makes it (whatever it is) faster and worse. Who could have guessed back then that out that of all of the cyberpunks, it was Sherry Turkle who was right.

In the 80s there were Reagan-era culture wars playing out on dial-up BBSes that only worsened when one SoCal white power group put down their CB radios and started their own BBSes. One BBS in Anaheim where you could innocently download Quark 3 templates also had a secret Nazi channel, etc. etc. I've been on the internet since 1986. Long enough to see all of the usenet wars and emergent things like alt.syntax.tacitical - which from my p.o.v. is the progenitor DNA of all of this from the chans to the mutancy on social media.

Being anonymous means nothing - take a look in your local NextDoor group and see all the crazy shit that your neighbors get into.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 8 May 2023 06:19 (one year ago) link

<--- insert long boring-ass story about getting kicked off a Los Alamitos conspiracy & software piracy BBS because they thought I was a Fed trying to infiltrate them. Seriously! They stopped inviting me to their BBQs --->

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 8 May 2023 06:22 (one year ago) link


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