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sure. i think there's a difference between building a product nazis "end up" using and personally boosting posts by nazis, unbanning nazis, and then writing nazi posts yourself as owner.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 8 May 2023 bookmarkflaglink

I don't.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 09:00 (eleven months ago) link

Yes, this is why reading the LRB and Unherd is the same thing.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 09:05 (eleven months ago) link

Twitter is not a publication. Glad to help.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 09:13 (eleven months ago) link

Yes, that's why it's an analogy mate.

Colour me skeptical that social media sites, unlike publications, are platonically perfect bastions of neutrality and uninfluenced by the agendas of their owners.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 09:17 (eleven months ago) link

Mate, Elon Musk does not shape the content in anyway so all I'm seeing is right-wing content.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 09:20 (eleven months ago) link

I hate Twitter but am with xyzzz on this— there’s still plenty of stuff on the site that is fine, even helpful to some people. Maybe instead of chastising people who still use it, it would be better to continue documenting its problems and downfall? just feels like a useless pile-up.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 11:19 (eleven months ago) link

All tech bro CEOs are Randian creeps, pass it on.

For whatever reason I still see a timeline that’s remarkably close to how things looked Before Elmo.

steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 11:36 (eleven months ago) link

time to go imo. Not that I have an account anyway, but definitely trying to ignore twitter links etc now. Which is going to make me out of touch with the discourse but that's a price I'm prepared to pay lol

For everyone who's like 'who care about the ownership, they're all assholes' I feel like Muskrat is inevitably gonna just keep upping the ante here, so if you're not at breaking point yet you will be in a couple weeks when Golly faces replace the bird logo for 72 hours

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 12:03 (eleven months ago) link

by the looks of it Elon is pretty close to responding "Interesting!" to holocaust denial stuff so yeah maybe time to jump ship

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 13:43 (eleven months ago) link

I mean my timeline is close to what it looked like before, except half the people have either stopped posting or have throttled way back. the Lakers/Warriors game last night would've been pandemonium on my TL last year, because all that energy kind of feeds off each other, now most of the people I like just don't care to share their thoughts on Twitter anymore

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 13:45 (eleven months ago) link

I also don't think caek was saying you should leave because your timeline will be less good, as some people seem to be implying. I read his comment to be that you should leave because staying helps keep the lights on for a platform that is aggressively pushing nazi voices and ideology. I don't completely agree, I think it is still good to boost the good on there and refuse to give attention to the bad, but I'm not unsympathetic to his POV.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:00 (eleven months ago) link

Yep.

Here’s a fun new tweet from the owner btw. It’s about soros and Zuckerberg (wonder what those guys have in common, does anyone know?)

Strange that election officials from pivotal regions attended a far left conference when they’re supposed to be impartial

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 9, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:13 (eleven months ago) link

Replying to Laura "They called the police on me" Loomer

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:21 (eleven months ago) link

crazy to think years ago she handcuffed herself to twitter hq and now shes inside the building so to speak

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:23 (eleven months ago) link

Activism works!

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:24 (eleven months ago) link

the blue check boost really has swathed twitter with the unmistakable stank of facebook

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:26 (eleven months ago) link

i mean it was always there, or had been for the last 5-6 years, but it now suffuses almost everything

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:27 (eleven months ago) link

I read his comment to be that you should leave because staying helps keep the lights on for a platform that is aggressively pushing nazi voices and ideology. I don't completely agree, I think it is still good to boost the good on there and refuse to give attention to the bad, but I'm not unsympathetic to his POV.

― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, May 9, 2023 10:00 AM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

If someone tried to convince me there was good content amidst the bad on Truth Social or w/e I would be like lol come on. So I think it's a question of when is Twitter *essentially* a right-wing platform. The CEO boosting Laura fucking Loomer is enough for me (maybe 'cause I'm in Canada?), but I get that it's not that stark for everyone

rob, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:37 (eleven months ago) link

xp that handcuffing bit was some amazing physical humor

the moment it became clear she just handcuffed herself to one door handle and it didn't actually block the door and people could just open the other side was *chef's kiss*

mh, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:37 (eleven months ago) link

I have a sinking feeling elmo's going to boost election denialism next year

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:01 (eleven months ago) link

the blue check boost really has swathed twitter with the unmistakable stank of facebook

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, May 9, 2023 10:26 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

its wild how like 90% of blue check replies seem barely literate or even sentient, just the worst possible posters lifted for all to enjoy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:06 (eleven months ago) link

he's gonna run a Twitter poll that only blue checks can vote in and then find it very interesting when Trump does not actually get 85% of the vote

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:08 (eleven months ago) link

sure. i think there's a difference between building a product nazis "end up" using and personally boosting posts by nazis, unbanning nazis, and then writing nazi posts yourself as owner.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 8 May 2023 bookmarkflaglink

I don't.

― xyzzzz

i do. also twitter is a publication

z_tbd, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:10 (eleven months ago) link

He didn't get rid of dril after he humiliated him.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:20 (eleven months ago) link

that's because he didn't want to make his friend stephen king mad

z_tbd, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:21 (eleven months ago) link

he reinstated all of the covid deniers who were banned after torturing the victim's families

that's one way he directly affected the content that is published on twitter

z_tbd, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:22 (eleven months ago) link

Giving the blue checks back to dril and Binder was Elon's only good troll

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:22 (eleven months ago) link

I can choose not to see that content xp

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:24 (eleven months ago) link

Murdoch got rid of Tucker Carlson. Musk can't even get rid of some random popular shitposter who humiliates him.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:26 (eleven months ago) link

he can't even get catturd's engagement numbers up to where they should be! terrible at running this site

mh, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:27 (eleven months ago) link

i no longer understand what we're even talking about here

z_tbd, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:27 (eleven months ago) link

what the fuck are we even talking about, someone just tell me like i'm a dumbass

z_tbd, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:27 (eleven months ago) link

twitter dot com

mh, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:28 (eleven months ago) link

i kind feel like "who really owns twitter" like we have been there and have been posting and now because a rich nazi buys all the stock we have to leave, but since elon is just completely running the site into the ground it doesnt really matter that much anyway, in some ways its a good outcome since before twitter was too powerful and often bad but now its less powerful every day, but also its sad since there was some funny stuff on there

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:29 (eleven months ago) link

if they sell it to someone who's not the worst person in the world and they re-ban all of the people who deserved to be fuck off, i'll start posting on there again. that'll show them

z_tbd, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:30 (eleven months ago) link

The world will be alright then

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:31 (eleven months ago) link

It's still possible to publish good and interesting things on Twitter. Its owner wants to see certain things published, so he encourages people to post that type of thing, but you can just mute/block those people and keep doing your thing in a semi-surreptitious fashion. In a way it's like when people in the Soviet Union used to press records on used X-rays because the music they wanted to hear had to be smuggled in.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:33 (eleven months ago) link

he's boosting those right wingers though because they are the only ones to pay for twitter blue. it's not just a free for all, some voices are being promoted and others not.

treeship., Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:35 (eleven months ago) link

I think at the point where I'm unable to not see those blue ticks (I just don't follow anyone like that) with the min effort is when I will delete.

Overall, there has been little change. I would argue things have improved slightly except some ppl I like have stopped posting bcz they can't see past the weirdo owner (as if Jack wasn't weird).

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:47 (eleven months ago) link

ive been enjoying blocking the blue its funny to me

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:49 (eleven months ago) link

he's boosting those right wingers though because they are the only ones to pay for twitter blue. it's not just a free for all, some voices are being promoted and others not.

Clearly you're too young to know how to operate within/sustain a cultural underground. No one's gonna "promote" you — you have to do the digging to find people whose interests align with yours, and then preserve those relationships and alignments yourself. It's work.

In one of William Gibson's novels, written when Twitter was new, two characters use it as a messaging service by only following each other. It is possible to create a sealed-off world within Twitter where you only follow a select group of people, they follow you, and you exchange information.

Or you can just post goofy shit and have fun and not go around pretending that your every action online has global significance.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:50 (eleven months ago) link

im mostly on twitter to study the human brain (cw racist imagery)

I can admit when I’m wrong

I thought he was tied to the cartel

New evidence shows him with Nazi tattoos

He is more likely tied to Ukraine than the cartel pic.twitter.com/LoloNvT7kg

— Isabella Riley Moody (@isabellarileyus) May 8, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:55 (eleven months ago) link

welp hiding that did not seem to work lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:55 (eleven months ago) link

the DFW area but specifically the one that's outside Kiev

mh, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:57 (eleven months ago) link

plano, ukraine

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 15:58 (eleven months ago) link

Ukraine: literally the only place that's ever produced nazi sympathizers

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 16:47 (eleven months ago) link

I predict this new McCormick opinion will make it into the BizOrgs casebooks. It's short (unusual for Delaware) and perfectly illustrates the business judgment rule while making Jack Dorsey look like the absolute worst businessperson in history:https://t.co/iteCEKQan7 pic.twitter.com/Ha9GKM9kqE

— @annmlip✧✧✧@e✧✧.soc✧✧✧ (@AnnMLipton) May 9, 2023

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:22 (eleven months ago) link

buying into Tidal after hanging out with Jay because it seems cool

whom amongst us, etc

mh, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:33 (eleven months ago) link

better than buying Twitter so you can hang out with Laura Loomer I guess

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:35 (eleven months ago) link

congratulations to twitter.com for picking up tucker carlson's new show (not joke).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:00 (eleven months ago) link


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