You cannot be seriousThis is a day for vindication not florid catastrophizing
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, May 9, 2023 4:15 PM
kinda why i've just avoided this thread for a while, even when things are good they are bad here
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:27 (eleven months ago) link
True and I’m here for some bleak celebration of this one victory, feel free to join me. If you can keep your nightmarish hypotheses to yourselves for one day that would be great. Even a couple hours to let it sink in that he was held responsible for his vile behavior by a jury.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:35 (eleven months ago) link
Any day that’s a bad day for DARVO is a good day for me
Otm, and sexual assault is basically already decriminalised in some areas going by conviction rates ffs. This is a good outcome!
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:36 (eleven months ago) link
From The Guardian: The verdict for the first time legally brands a former US president as a sexual predator.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:36 (eleven months ago) link
Don't think for a second I am not celebrating this. As I will celebrate the next time he loses.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:42 (eleven months ago) link
Oh PLEASE stop itYou cannot be seriousThis is a day for vindication not florid catastrophizing
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, May 9, 2023 4:15 PM bookmarkflaglink
Otm x 30000
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:42 (eleven months ago) link
Before I could put in my disclaimer on FB about "no Eeyore shit" I already had one friend explaining why this is actually bad.
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:43 (eleven months ago) link
Apparently Trump intends to appeal.. I wonder on what grounds?
it'll be on "can't get a fair hearing in NY" or "judge was biased" -- didn't they move for change of venue to staten island?
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:46 (eleven months ago) link
very good news
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:47 (eleven months ago) link
Good for her. Jury service is important. The defamation finding is significant.
It's somewhat of an open issue whether you can get a prior restraint on specific speech that has been found to be defamatory, but you can see he is already being forced to change his wording.
― felicity, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:48 (eleven months ago) link
Was gonna ask about that
― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:51 (eleven months ago) link
IIUC the window is still open for others to sue him using the law carroll used https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-signs-adult-survivors-act
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:52 (eleven months ago) link
From The Guardian: _The verdict for the first time legally brands a former US president as a sexual predator._
― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:53 (eleven months ago) link
...
Judge in E. Jean Carroll case advises jurors not to identify themselves after finding Trump liable of sexual abuse and defamation and ordering him to pay $5 million in damages. pic.twitter.com/RMfxH0AmNU— Jamie Gangel (@jamiegangel) May 9, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:53 (eleven months ago) link
CNN should really cancel that stupid town hall (they never should have hosted to begin with).
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:55 (eleven months ago) link
Maybe CNN should hire Mo Brooks to take Trump's place:
Ex-Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama - who once pleaded for Donald Trump's endorsement - now says Republicans must repudiate Trump. pic.twitter.com/GAHWILLKdk— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) May 9, 2023
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:56 (eleven months ago) link
Sen John Cornyn (R-TX) to @CBSNews about Donald Trump:“I don’t think he can get elected”— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) May 9, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 20:57 (eleven months ago) link
Hasn’t stopped them before.
Can’t wait for all the ego destroying Ls this mfer is going to experience for the rest of his life.
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:00 (eleven months ago) link
Hope his last realization before he dies is that everybody did in fact hate him as much as he secretly feared.
― This machine bores fascism (PBKR), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:01 (eleven months ago) link
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera)
OTMFM throughout, <3 LL
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:02 (eleven months ago) link
Apparently Trump intends to appeal.. I wonder on what grounds?― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, May 9, 2023 1:23 PM
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, May 9, 2023 1:23 PM
If they don't know, I'm certainly not going to start brainstorming ideas.
― felicity, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:08 (eleven months ago) link
There is a part of me that would be down with the town hall if the people asking the questions all asked variations of “how many other women have you sexually assaulted” and “why are you bothering, we all know jail time is inevitably coming from you” etc
I know that won’t happen but it’s nice to dream. I also can’t imagine Trump going through with it at this point; CNN obviously wants it to happen because they’re half-hoping someone does a John Wilkes Booth on live television
― Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:08 (eleven months ago) link
If this part of his life is really gonna be defined by a cascade of court cases it’s gratifying that this is the first big verdict
― michel goindry (wins), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:09 (eleven months ago) link
Fuck yes.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:09 (eleven months ago) link
every single one of the town hall questions is gonna be about inflation and immigration plus maybe "what do you think is your greatest quality as a father"
― frogbs, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:15 (eleven months ago) link
And he will answer by ranting about the verdict and all the other bullshit he has spouted on repeat for years.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:16 (eleven months ago) link
"We'll appeal. We got treated very badly by the Clinton-appointed judge," Trump said.
There's the grounds for appeal lol
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:22 (eleven months ago) link
shoulda had Sidney Powell representing u man
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:23 (eleven months ago) link
“What’s it like knowing that at any given moment, you could be subpoenaed, indicted, or slapped into leg irons?”
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:37 (eleven months ago) link
"like being in Atlantic City"
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 21:39 (eleven months ago) link
meanwhile, over in the Foxiverse, the lead story?
WALLS CLOSING IN: Hunter Biden's former business partner makes last-ditch attempt to avoid prison
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 22:02 (eleven months ago) link
He's always the victim. I hope he burns in hell.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 23:57 (eleven months ago) link
there you go, making him the victim again!
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 02:11 (eleven months ago) link
Congratulations on your sexual assault judgment grampa.
This is still making me happy hours later.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 02:26 (eleven months ago) link
The town hall is going to be unhinged.
― treeship., Wednesday, 10 May 2023 11:51 (eleven months ago) link
nah it's gonna be a free campaign rally
The venue for CNN's Trump town hall will be "filled with about 400 voters who are Republicans or Republican-leaning independents."I've never seen a network try this hard to get their own anchor booed live on their own airwaves. https://t.co/rSA525kCvh pic.twitter.com/oN0TpVWkhe— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) May 10, 2023
― frogbs, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:53 (eleven months ago) link
― treeship., Wednesday, May 10, 2023 6:51 AM (six hours ago)
was trying to figure out what it was about this post that was sticking in my head and realized it is basically another way of saying "will be wild"
Which also reminded me to thank VG (I think?) for posting about the Will Be Wild podcast -- great stuff, thank you for the rec wherever you are!
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:55 (eleven months ago) link
CNN was acquired just over a year ago in a major media merger where the acquiring CEO mentioned CNN's politics (at the time rated -2 or "lean left" on the political bias scale) were just too radical for mainstream america. So yeah, this is the "new CNN", just giving voices to underrepresented centrist voices like poor ole DJT.
Also I missed it in real time but thank you to LL, felicity and others for keeping this thread focused amid the nonsense.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 19:46 (eleven months ago) link
What a welcome post, Steve Shasta. <3
― felicity, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 20:01 (eleven months ago) link
Yes and these are unhinged.
― treeship., Wednesday, 10 May 2023 20:10 (eleven months ago) link
seems like there was an anti-woke crank on the jury, and even he found in favor of carroll
Remember when I told you that the Carroll verdict shocked me, in part because of @Jose_Pagliery’s reporting on the jury’s “media diet,” especially Juror No. 77’s admitted interest in Tim Pool. Carroll’s team had serious concerns too, based on filings unsealed today. 1/— Lisa Rubin (@lawofruby) May 10, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:35 (eleven months ago) link
Maybe shows that people can be shaken out of their echo chamber when faced with the plain truth.
― treeship., Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:38 (eleven months ago) link
One person at least
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:39 (eleven months ago) link
he was probably the only reason the finding was sexual assault rather than rape.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:43 (eleven months ago) link
Haopy about reporter Joseph Pagliery, a former student.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:52 (eleven months ago) link
Jose
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:53 (eleven months ago) link
yeah, Fox News yesterday was 'JURY REJECTS RAPE CHARGE' in bold, before conceding that maybe he was found liable for something after all
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:16 (eleven months ago) link
They rejected the rape charge because rape is the one crime where you apparently have to have video of the incident, a recording of the assailant admitting he did it to even approximate anybody believing you, and then you'll still be called a liar anyway.
Even in a civil suit, which requires a much lower burden of proof.
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:41 (eleven months ago) link
Unless you're a male victim, then they'll believe you and ridicule you for "being weak and letting someone do this to you", much like Terry Crews got told when he accused a Hollywood Exec of sexually assaulting him.
― Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:44 (eleven months ago) link