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bad at telling the people that didn't get the job that they didn't get the job.

ime, increasingly every organization other than some governments ghosts everyone but the winner, and will decreasingly provide any feedback. I really only found this weird because you've been there so long. Not sure what to make of the general trend, but I guess it helps me not care much and keep rolling on. It's been a long time since I bothered to write a letter rather than just bang my resume in.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 13:29 (eleven months ago) link

yeah i'm not surprised this is the M.O.

back to phoning it in! found it hilarious this year that I said to myself "wow, this was my worst year in this dept, I def was checked out the whole year, I'm sure that's going to factor into my yearly review" only to have my boss say what an amazing job I did and that he tried to get me a raise even though I'm not eligible for one.

boss has no poker face. he also forgot to send me the actual review w/ feedback on it but he's new to the job. and I honestly dont' care to read it.

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:18 (eleven months ago) link

fuck, i thought you had this.

No, ๐˜'๐˜ฎ Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:27 (eleven months ago) link

still a chance the lead candidate gets sucked into Narnia

Qeq-hauau-ent-pehui (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:28 (eleven months ago) link

Damn, I'm sorry Neando. I was pulling for you!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:32 (eleven months ago) link

Best of luck to you Mr. Thal.

Whether you keep kicking ass in your current role or move on, I hope you get to a place that works for you.

coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:40 (eleven months ago) link

update - the reason I didn't get the job is because...they cancelled the posting. LOL

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 00:48 (eleven months ago) link

one of my friends never even got to interview. so I got further than he did.

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 00:49 (eleven months ago) link

update - the reason I didn't get the job is because...they cancelled the posting. LOL

That sucks. I had two potential jobs fade on me like that last week, fortunately before it got to the interview stage. On the other hand, I got two job offers today. One pays literally twice what the other pays and is intended to go contract-to-hire after a year, while the other is a temporary gig good for no more than five months and they're gonna want evenings and weekends as it gets closer to the end of the project. Gee, what choice should I make?

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 02:20 (eleven months ago) link

lol. a real poison pill there

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 02:29 (eleven months ago) link

update - the reason I didn't get the job is because...they cancelled the posting. LOL

โ€• the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Monday, May 15, 2023 8:48 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

LOL. nice of them to tell you

No, ๐˜'๐˜ฎ Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 02:42 (eleven months ago) link

the friend that told me about the posting is mad because he was counting on the hires to help reduce his client load, lol. he msged his boss pissed today

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 02:43 (eleven months ago) link

i would hope they'd reconsider but it doesn't sound like that kind of place.

No, ๐˜'๐˜ฎ Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 02:51 (eleven months ago) link

can reconsider my balls

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 02:57 (eleven months ago) link

excellent dn btw

No, ๐˜'๐˜ฎ Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 03:01 (eleven months ago) link

I don't know anything about your industry in your area, N.

Is it the only game in town?

Seems like if there are other companies out there you could parlay your "passed up for promotion" tale into a salary bump with a competitor.

gelatinous cubist (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 14:12 (eleven months ago) link

i have a vague understanding of what Neando does for a living and who he works for ... and from my understanding, the competitors are just as awful, if not worse? ... or, the alternative would be working for a smaller company/firm where is likely less flexibility because there are fewer people in the department. However, Neando's skills and knowledge would definitely qualify him for a bunch of other types of jobs imo ...

sarahell, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 15:24 (eleven months ago) link

sarahell otm. part of the challenge is my salary is high for what I'm doing now. my current salary has nothing to do w/ what I'm doing now, but is mostly what it is because of being here 18 years and earning top tier annual reviews almost every year of it, with corresponding pay bumps. I'm at the very top of the pay band for my current job, so if I wanted to do THIS work elsewhere (I don't, tbh), I'd get significantly less.

However, I have thought about doing my OLD job (implementations) at other companies before. 2017 was a rather humbling experience. I was angry and ready to leave altogether, I had told my boss I was done, and I paid an agency and also put my resumes on every site, touting my experience. I was expecting to get a huge offer and peace the fuck out with my middle fingers out.

The agency was useless and found me nothing. From my posted resumes, I did get responses - but comical ones. I was an implementation requirements analyst at the time, and I got an offer to do the same thing at a competitor. for $14/hour. less than half my salary, in fact, only $2/hour more than what they paid entry level customer care agents at my company.

in the end, I had to move for my mental health - I wound up taking a $6k paycut to move to the department I'm in now. I might just test the waters a little because my best friend's mother used to work at our main competitor and could put in a good word for me there (I didn't know her back in 2017).

it feels ridiculous that I am having financial issues given how good my salary is but I got heavily in debt, somewhat to help the folks out, somewhat due to poor decision making between 2020-this year, some due to gambling addiction resulting in a big loss last year. but the debt relief program should help me get out of it. and there's always bankruptcy if things got worse (wouldn't be a Neanderthal if I didn't file for bankruptcy, it's a thing we do)

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 17:25 (eleven months ago) link

tbh I wish someone would just pay me to ride around in a van with Mercyful Fate all day

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 17:25 (eleven months ago) link

(also don't get it twisted, I don't make six figures or anything...lol...i wish)

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 17:27 (eleven months ago) link

Feeling old fashioned here for only ever applying on advertised vacancies! Different markets and sectors but something I'll keep in mind.

Glad your rejection wasn't personal

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 17:37 (eleven months ago) link

Accepted the better of the two job offers from yesterday. For some reason, even though it's WFH, I have to take a piss test. It seems like a formality, though โ€” I start work on Monday but I have till Wednesday to take the test. I guess if it came back positive for crack and heroin, they'd fire me?

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 18:54 (eleven months ago) link

just donโ€™t use those drugs anytime after the weekend

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 22:45 (eleven months ago) link

perhaps a straight-edge ILXor can fedex you some clean piss?

Won't be me, however

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 17 May 2023 22:54 (eleven months ago) link

I am basically straight edge, so it's not a concern. What's more worrisome is the possibility that I may lapse into a coma watching the mandatory videos about data security and HIPAA.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 May 2023 00:13 (eleven months ago) link

maybe you can review them for your blog or some other publication

sarahell, Thursday, 18 May 2023 07:59 (eleven months ago) link

those videos are so fucking tiresome

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 18 May 2023 10:45 (eleven months ago) link

lol we just had a slew of those annual videos this year, fuckin hate em.

what's funny is when you go through these videos, then see leaders clearly violating data privacy rules mere weeks later and they say 'who cares' when you point it out

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Thursday, 18 May 2023 13:40 (eleven months ago) link

I have to do CPE for my license, so I generally have to watch the equivalent of 10 - 15 hours of these each year ... (I generally will have them on in the background while I have coffee and play solitaire or something).

sarahell, Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:24 (eleven months ago) link

From the beginning of covid lol:

Dear Andrew *******,

You have 1 assignment that is 1130 days overdue.

You must complete the following assignment(s):

- Executive Series: Securely Working From Home with Quiz

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:31 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

every 'lunch break' I've had this entire week has been filled up with doing the tasks my manager gave me while he knew I was also training people, and also finding out what's going on w/ dad at the hospital.

there needs to be a contraption that just clings food at high speed into your mouth and down your throat in one fluid motion

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:19 (ten months ago) link

*Flings

the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:19 (ten months ago) link

that's why that soylent stuff exists?

sarahell, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:30 (ten months ago) link

https://huel.com/

dan selzer, Friday, 9 June 2023 18:33 (ten months ago) link

three weeks pass...

not wfh for first time since the world ended and what a palaver. have to prepare and take (cold) food with me to eat at my desk. public transport. 40 minute commute, both ways. no TV / radio on in the background. shared toilets.

it is only a one day deal and i do get to see a dalek, but hey, why did we ever do this?

koogs, Thursday, 6 July 2023 07:28 (nine months ago) link

going out and getting lunch was the best part of office working.

ledge, Thursday, 6 July 2023 08:24 (nine months ago) link

prรชt threepiece costs a tenner now

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 6 July 2023 08:26 (nine months ago) link

I've been in my current job for two years now (went back to a company I worked at for ages pre-pandemic) and I have been to the office once and I've never met any of my actual colleagues and it....sucks?

bain4z, Thursday, 6 July 2023 08:31 (nine months ago) link

Now you have something to look forward to!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 July 2023 09:47 (nine months ago) link

the best two days of my week are getting in and meeting my team and colleagues in person and the second best three days of my week are staying home and getting some work done

รr an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 July 2023 10:20 (nine months ago) link

I go in to the office about once a month, for two days. Meeting people = classic. Last time I had the mythical experience beloved of managers and anti WFHers where a chance meeting in person cleared up a problem that had been bugging me for days. Being almost alone in a large office because everyone is WFH that day, and squinting at a small laptop screen = dud.

ledge, Thursday, 6 July 2023 10:25 (nine months ago) link

I'm technically in the office five days a week but I usually WFH about 2-3 days a month and I love those few days and will likely ask for one perm WFH day a week soon but I wouldn't want more than that. It's absolutely a personal thing but I do find it a ton easier to get stuff done at work and I actually like the getting dressed up and having to interact with colleagues part.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 6 July 2023 12:21 (nine months ago) link

Being almost alone in a large office because everyone is WFH that day

see i love this

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 6 July 2023 12:52 (nine months ago) link

Friday is my favorite day in the office.

Jeff, Thursday, 6 July 2023 13:21 (nine months ago) link

My supervisor at my new job has mentioned the idea of flying me in for a day to "meet the team". I said "Sure, fine, sounds good" as my brain melted and ran out my ears. I haven't worked in an office since May 2016, except for literally three days in March 2020 (I got a new job and three days later we were in pandemic lockdown). I have no interest in glad-handing these people; we get along just fine on Zoom and email.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 6 July 2023 15:23 (nine months ago) link

my boss did a pretty smart thing early in the pandemic which was to schedule a weekly team hangout each thursday afternoon on Zoom, where we do talk some work stuff but we also talk about current events or the submarine or whatever, drink a couple beers.. now we've hired a couple remote team members and they'll join in so there's some semblance of office/water cooler banter once a week

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 6 July 2023 16:32 (nine months ago) link

we tried this but everyone hated it

(โ€ขฬชโ—) (carne asada), Thursday, 6 July 2023 16:34 (nine months ago) link

Ha, I think some people hate it as they never show up, which is fine. But it definitely is a time zone thing that leans West Coast and our employee in Atlanta almost never joins in

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 6 July 2023 16:36 (nine months ago) link

talking to boss's boss over lunch and he lives an hour's drive away and is therefore fine with us all wfh.

was nice to see, hear from people not in my immediate team for the first time in years. also got out early and had a useful trip to fopp so...

koogs, Thursday, 6 July 2023 17:41 (nine months ago) link

(it also helps that the dept has been over-delivering despite being under-staffed and is key for the company's strategy)

koogs, Thursday, 6 July 2023 17:44 (nine months ago) link


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