Sade - Soldier of Love

I haven't read all of this thread but I just recently re-listened to love deluxe/lovers rock and I was very struck by how out of time Sade's musical progression is. I haven't listened to Soldier of Love or the 80s records in a bit but it struck me that as much as Sade was influenced by things going on musically around them (I get a strong Ibiza vibe at times on Lover's Rock for example) they also seem totally out of time. Or maybe more correctly in their own timeline. Like the hints of Soldier of Love already exist in Lover's Rock 9 years earlier and the same goes for Love Deluxe/Lover's Rock. Unlike say, Portishead where Third feels like an entirely new thing strung together by Gibbons' voice Sade feels very in touch with their earlier music over the long stretches of time between their records.

excited to read through the rest of your thoughts map.

map forced me to buy a copy of Soldier of Love (I'd burned several tracks + remixes long ago). I'm loving it, certainly their best since 1988.

i'm not totally sure how to articulate this but one thing they've always seemed to have to some degree is a version of "jazz" that i would say is organized around sade's vocal performances. on soldier of love the flow and spaciousness of her vocal lines and delivery feel very deliberate to me, a sort of highly conscious minimal construction akin to miles davis' playing on, well, what's in my mind is the first track of jack johnson, but whereas that's channeling a boxing performance, sade is gesturing towards things like the passing of time, love, birth and death. songs about injury and resilience, specifically on soldier of love.

i think how they have melded jazz and rhythm into pop song structures is very sophisticated, very much their own construction, has been a throughline through the decades, and is maybe part of why they feel so "out of time". there might be a few instances over the decades where the construction of that depth and spaciousness slipped but i think they've always had a very high "batting average" with it so to speak, on every album from the beginning. need to go back to the first few and revisit. the way they do it is so interesting to me. of course it's very subtle, but also very attuned to every moment. they take the space and embodiment of jazz and rhythm and marry it to the urgenicy of 'song'. each era and album has a few formal experiments with it and then tracks that just go for the bleachers with emotional saturation for fuel.

i know this is the soldier of love thread but just a side note that 'give it up' on stronger than pride is one of my favorite rhythms they've ever recorded, that stopped crash cymbal repeating. it's a shorter track and you'd be tempted to think it was a tossed off thing at the end of the album but i just think it's so intense and spiritual and just rhythmically electrifying.

will i think the 'ibiza' sound has always been strongly identified with sade, in some ways they may have been progenitors. i'm not an ibiza expert. "the sweetest taboo" video comes to mind, sade alternately jamming in the loft and then riding a white horse through the spanish countryside with a free spirited hunk - quintessential ibiza it seems to me.