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Its not like the dude workin' 32 1/2 hours a week at Krogers or Piggly Wiggly is buying his crappy cards.

Considering how cheap a$$ these billionares come off, they must pay their help ok as they should just bludgeon them to death or set them on fire when they go to sleep. Maybe that is why the guy works like 20 hours a day... I guess that is why some are trying to come up with obedience collars for their bunker workers.

earlnash, Thursday, 18 May 2023 00:32 (eleven months ago) link

probably not great that Elon's entire worldview can be reduced to "arbeit macht frei"

frogbs, Thursday, 18 May 2023 13:23 (eleven months ago) link

How do you say that in Afrikaans? Probably about the same, I'd guess...

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 May 2023 14:06 (eleven months ago) link

As John Ganz has pointed out, there's a word in Afrikaans-- baaskap, which roughly translates to "bossism". It's an explicitly Apartheid ideology that also imlies "white people on top, white bosses on top of white people".

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 18 May 2023 16:38 (eleven months ago) link

Always wondered if he hired a voice/accent coach - he always seems to be speaking very carefully so he comes off as your typical Cali tech brah and not a South African mine owner

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 18 May 2023 16:57 (eleven months ago) link

probably mostly organic. a few coworkers moved to the midwest from countries with distinctive accents around the same age Musk did and there's an entire spectrum of merged accents, some that sound local with a slightly noticeable inflection on some words, others with a more noticeable tone

mh, Thursday, 18 May 2023 17:40 (eleven months ago) link

I don't know how many lawsuits he's up to now, but this one has some good details about all the bonkers shit with their leases and unlicensed renovations.

Six former Twitter execs and longtime employees sued Twitter and Elon Musk in US district court in Delaware on Tues, alleging they violated severance agreements. The lawsuit seems to corroborate much of our & others' reporting about the co not paying billshttps://t.co/dEkOJws1o5 pic.twitter.com/UqvHez4kHk

— Ryan Mac šŸ™ƒ (@RMac18) May 18, 2023

This, just for example:

253. Killian was soon instructed to circumvent the landlord's lighting control system, which was motion- sensitive in compliance with California's Title 24 energy code, because the lights were bothering people living in the hotel rooms when their small movements at night would trigger the lights.
254. Killian submitted the service requests to the landlord, who denied them,
255. When the landlord denied Twitter's requests, Killian was instructed to disconnect the lighting himself, which was not safe and which he was not qualified to do.
256. When he objected, Hollander berated him for refusing to do the work himself.
257. She was not satisfied until he brought her in and had her look into the drop-ceiling and see what the electrical system looked like, to understand that he could not safely do the work himself
258. Caught between a rock and a hard place, Killian hired an electrician to disconnect these rooms independently, putting Twitter in violation of both the building code and their lease.
259. It got worse.
260 Killian was instructed to install space heaters in the hotel rooms in further violation of Twitter's lease.
261. Killian was also instructed to place locks on the hotel room doors, a request that betrayed the lie that these were intended to be temporary rest spaces for exhausted Tweeps.
262. California code requires locks that automatically disengage when the building's fire suppression systems are triggered.
263. Killian was repeatedly told that compliant locks were too expensive and instructed to immediately install cheaper locks that were not compliant with life safety and egress codes.
264. Again, Killian protested that no licensed tradesperson would perform work that violated the building code.
265. Killian protested that installing these locks would put lives at risk that in case of an earthquake or fire (the latter of which was made dramatically more likely by the noncompliant electrical work and the presence of the space heaters he had been instructed to install), these locks would remain locked, blocking first responders from being able to access the rooms and the Tweeps within.
266. Nobody cared.
267. On information and belief, the non-compliant locks were in fact eventually installed but not by Killian.
268. Killian quit that day.

Slumlord Billionaire

dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:01 (eleven months ago) link

couldnā€™t they just put ā€œdo not disturbā€ signs on the ā€œhotelā€ doors or was Elon just busting in like the Kool-Aid man and they needed locks to keep him out?

mh, Friday, 19 May 2023 00:48 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, that whole section is fucking wild

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 19 May 2023 00:51 (eleven months ago) link

I love this:

266. Nobody cared.

It's the "Jesus wept" of Elon court filings.

Needs an Elon crying/laughing pic

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 19 May 2023 14:18 (eleven months ago) link

why are broā€™s opinions about working from home being reported on like important news? :-(

brimstead, Friday, 19 May 2023 19:19 (eleven months ago) link

I thought Elon was sleeping in a closet at Twitter headquarters, doesn't that mean he is working from home? So he is a total hypocrite who should put his head in a toilet and let people take turns flushing it (just like old times, no doubt).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 May 2023 19:32 (eleven months ago) link

why are broā€™s opinions about working from home being reported on like important news? :-(

the only opinions being reported are about the loss of 'water cooler synergy' and 'team building', we never hear the 'well, our employees enjoy living in rural montana and not driving every morning, getting more sleep, spending more time with their families and pets, not polluting by commuting, saving money on lunch, crapping in their own bathrooms etc etc etc"

Feels like a vast conspiracy to pull us back into the rat race

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 19 May 2023 20:29 (eleven months ago) link

Feels like a vast conspiracy to pull us back into the rat race

Yes it's about control.

octobeard, Friday, 19 May 2023 22:03 (eleven months ago) link

Someone has pointed out that not only can Twitter Blue subscribers now post files up to 8GB, there's no limit on how many they can post, making Twitter effectively a piracy machine (people are posting whole movies left, right and center) and an unlimited storage service for just $8 a month. There's no way this lasts.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:53 (eleven months ago) link

someone posted shrek in its entirety a day or so ago. total mess.

Fizzles, Saturday, 20 May 2023 19:00 (eleven months ago) link

never cared for it much either.

ź™® (map), Saturday, 20 May 2023 19:13 (eleven months ago) link

how the... how is that in any biz model, it's so dumb? do i not understand it?

Laurie Andersonā€™s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Saturday, 20 May 2023 22:24 (eleven months ago) link

I mean, he's not running it like a business. I don't know what he's running it like. Like he hates Twitter and the people who use it. Seems pathological.

I think Elon genuinely wants to make it a right wing social media site like Parler or Truth but popular. Of course, by making it explicitly RW (and being a fascist anti-Semite who wants to be King of Mars) he will drive away the people (and with them the advertisers) that made Twitter actually fun and popular and thus just turn into Gab.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 20 May 2023 23:44 (eleven months ago) link

I think he's mostly throwing a tantrum because it became painfully obvious that he's not universally loved and respected.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 20 May 2023 23:53 (eleven months ago) link

Like, if he was so upset about ā€œfree speechā€ why didnā€™t he just fuck off to Parler or Truth? Because thereā€™s no one there to torment. Everyone thinks the same. No fun!

Because heā€™s an idiot, he thought for some reason he could keep all the ā€œwokeā€ users at Twitter and keep respectable advertisers while letting the Nazis run amok. They wanted playthings.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 20 May 2023 23:54 (eleven months ago) link

Feels like a vast conspiracy to pull us back into the rat race

Yes it's about control.

OT but I think there is also an element of, if people arenā€™t commuting, they wonā€™t care so much about gas prices, making our elections harder for OPEC to manipulate.

epistantophus, Sunday, 21 May 2023 01:56 (eleven months ago) link

So itā€™s about control?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 21 May 2023 03:15 (eleven months ago) link

It's about control. Through dominance.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 21 May 2023 03:18 (eleven months ago) link

I was wondering since Twitter was a tool in the Arab Spring that the Saudi money backing Musk was just as much to buy it and kill it as anything. Don't exactly quite get why the oil sheiks would want in business with the battery car guy, but between Musky's hugging up to them and the Russians it sure seems that way.

earlnash, Sunday, 21 May 2023 14:45 (eleven months ago) link

Feels like a vast conspiracy to pull us back into the rat race

See also: the monthly articles from NYT about how people want to go back into the officeā€¦ which only quotes managers/supervisors/CEOs. One of the few times I read the comments, since they are almost exclusively people disputing the articlesā€™ premise and giving it the finger.

blatherskite, Sunday, 21 May 2023 16:40 (eleven months ago) link

Bosses are panicking that white collar labor in the US, for a brief shining moment in this post-union age, has some leverage.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 21 May 2023 16:47 (eleven months ago) link

More than a little of the forcing people back into the office thing seems like it has a lot to do with trying to justify the expensive office rental contracts and business leasing agreements, doesnā€™t it?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 21 May 2023 17:35 (eleven months ago) link

Which is especially weird in Muskā€™s case since he apparently refuses to pay rent for office space. Youā€™d think heā€™d want people to work from home ā€” itā€™s basically outsourcing real estate costs to the employees.

also, MASSIVE IGNORANT GENERALIZATION ALERT, a lot of managers donā€™t do shit except big their employees and talk loudly and now they donā€™t have anything to do

brimstead, Sunday, 21 May 2023 18:01 (eleven months ago) link

bug not big

I think every single one of my posts in the past week has had a typo

brimstead, Sunday, 21 May 2023 18:01 (eleven months ago) link

Working from home has been a big issue for cities that have large office building infrastructure and the businesses that depended on the lunch trade. Property tax revenues from office buildings had been a mainstay for DC and adjacent jurisdictions (office buildings bring in more tax revenue than cities spend in revenue to service their infrastructure). In this area, despite our best efforts at creating mixed use neighborhoods, we have some areas that are office canyons that in pre-pandemic times kind of rolled up those sidewalks at 5 pm. Businesses that depended on errands by office workers or lunch have suffered, not to mention the tax revenue such businesses raise have declined.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 21 May 2023 18:33 (eleven months ago) link

Objectively yr correct but the problem is that these facts are being used to justify the continued ennobling of all of the worst parts of work in late capitalism rather than, yknow, trying to figure out new ways of organizing society that would be more humane and ecologically sound.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 21 May 2023 19:34 (eleven months ago) link

If you let workers work from home but then you replace the worker with AI, can you make the AI work in the office?

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Sunday, 21 May 2023 19:35 (eleven months ago) link

XP I agree, table. One part of the solution will be for city planners and leaders to encourage the conversion of office buildings to much needed housing.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 21 May 2023 20:15 (eleven months ago) link

Apparently it is often prohibitively expensive to convert office to residential because of the different plumbing needs of the two uses and how they are normally addressed.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Sunday, 21 May 2023 21:07 (eleven months ago) link

Thatā€™s true too. Apparently 1960s-70s buildings are easier to convert cause they have smaller floor plates. Our community has done a couple. The fact that office and residential buildings have very different Building codes (much more stringent regulations, understandably, for places where people sleep) make it harder to convert in some cases

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 21 May 2023 22:18 (eleven months ago) link

Yā€™all are using talking points from the real estate industry.

Such conversions are expensive but can work and significantly revitalize parts of citiesā€” the residential population of downtown Philly between 2000 and 2020 went up 54% as a result of office to residential conversions. The industry is holding out on office work coming back (itā€™s not) or on getting sweetheart tax abatements (like the one in place in Philly) to do the conversions. There are obvious problems with the abatements, duh, but the housing crisis perhaps justifies swallowing a nasty pill. If done ethically and with safeguards in place, it can work.

All that said, conversions wouldnā€™t add a significant number of units in most places.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 21 May 2023 22:25 (eleven months ago) link

Hey Elon tried to add much needed residential units inside the Twitter offices but the landlord and the city were all like ā€œlease violationā€ and ā€œfire trapā€ and ā€œpeople may die.ā€ Small-minded bureaucrats.

Well DC is starting to try tax abatements, so would be interesting to see the results.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 22 May 2023 01:02 (eleven months ago) link

older office buildings, despite plumbing etc, are likely easier code-wise due to the fact we made use-specific housing codes that let builders de-emphasize good general use building practices

or, as my architect friend used to lecture me (heā€™s moved from pure architecture to structural concerns), architects leave too much to engineering and donā€™t bother to work beyond the recommended minimums in code, despite whether theyā€™d actually be the best in the building

honestly the same goes in software but idk thatā€™s also why I moved to infrastructure

mh, Monday, 22 May 2023 02:37 (eleven months ago) link

I think Elon genuinely wants to make it a right wing social media site like Parler or Truth but popular. Of course, by making it explicitly RW (and being a fascist anti-Semite who wants to be King of Mars) he will drive away the people (and with them the advertisers) that made Twitter actually fun and popular and thus just turn into Gab.

ā€• Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 20 May 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Don't think he can make twitter "explicitly RW", the guy cannot execute a plan.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 May 2023 09:20 (eleven months ago) link

i do think blue tick prioritisation leans heavily towards it though. you have to wade through a garbage fire of blue tick answers to any particular thread to get any sort of through line of discussion.

iā€™ve always been fairly relaxed about it. itā€™s a commercial site, and you can more or less get what you want out of it. but in the last few weeks iā€™ve noticed it becoming unusable, in terms of how i use it anyway - defaulting to ā€œfor youā€ is an absurd piece of friction to introduce. and generally as an information aggregator itā€™s becoming epistemically extremely degraded imv.

however, i do think a lot depends on how you use it. a lot of the issues that have driven others away were invisible to me.

Fizzles, Monday, 22 May 2023 10:23 (eleven months ago) link

My twitter mostly goes to "following".

"i do think blue tick prioritisation leans heavily towards it though. you have to wade through a garbage fire of blue tick answers to any particular thread to get any sort of through line of discussion."

I don't know if answers to a popular thread have ever yielded much, but yes you see the blue ticks mostly first in line, but some are more 'liberal' sounding people.

I think if I were to join now it might be harder to find good people. Because I have already built a good list it's still ok at the moment. As it hasn't gone in a puff of smoke I reckon death will be slow.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 May 2023 10:51 (eleven months ago) link

I don't know if answers to a popular thread have ever yielded much, but yes you see the blue ticks mostly first in line, but some are more 'liberal' sounding people.

Doesn't matter. If they've paid for a blue check, they're idiots and marks. Block or mute anyone who has one.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 22 May 2023 13:28 (eleven months ago) link

Don't really care to block or mute anyone. I'm a grown-up.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 22 May 2023 13:44 (eleven months ago) link


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