NEIL YOUNG ARCHIVES BOX: IT'S REALLY HAPPENING

live, neil would sing "the wooden ships — y'know like that song by david crosssssssby wink wink — were just a hippie dream!"

"Cocaine Eyes"

Neil Young likes the Beach Boys.

― tylerw, Thursday, May 18, 2023 6:16 PM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I wonder if they hold some totemic value for him as avatars of the Southern CA myth that he bought into on some level.

I mean he wouldn't be the first or last of that era's rock ppl to have an admiration for Brian Wilson's songwriting

I haven't found any live acoustic shows that I like all the way through---if solo, the guitar can be so out of tune that even I can tell.

Are any of the bootleg series crucial? I like Neil a lot and I've got both the archives and most of the classic era live albums. I'm assuming that the boots are for hardcore fans that don't mind a lot of redundancy.

― Cow_Art, Saturday, March 4, 2023 4:12 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Way Down in the Rust Bucket for sure

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, March 4, 2023 4:13 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

No names in "Cocaine Eyes" that I can see.

avatars of the Southern CA myth that he bought into on some level.

xxp Live at the Filmore East has my definitive take of “Cowgirl in the Sand”

oh yeah Fillmore East is so crucial I realize I've stopped thinking about it as an Archive release

Buffalo Springfield played like 100 shows with the Beach Boys, Neil was tight with Dennis Wilson for a while ...

looks like he's having the time of his life here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp97Hijkd10

anyway, i don't think the "long may you run" reference is meant as a "lol the beach boys moment"

and it's a bit sad. i love crazy horse, love the lizard brain caveman energy but there was something about danny whitten version, just having another guy more on neil's level who could push him a bit.

He liked the Beach Boys enough to use "Let's Go Away for Awhile" as the closing theme to Journey Through the Past, and then to put it on the soundtrack album.

archives releases that i most rate: way down in the rust bucket, a treasure, tuscaloosa, tonight's the night at the roxy, and weirdly maybe return to greendale.

also Disc 6 from Archives II, that incredible "Old Homestead" disc - not exactly a standalone but I wish it was

anyway, i don't think the "long may you run" reference is meant as a "lol the beach boys moment"

Agreed! My point was The Bottom Line crowd thinks it is, but Neil is a tru head.

sleeve, I'm sure I listened to Disc 6 at some point, but it didn't grab me as much as Disc 8 (Dume). That one is just incredible to me - I don't think the Powderfinger is better than the released version, but I might like the sound of it better.

But I will listen to Disc 6 tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYbkISdwVYU

Neil was tight with Dennis Wilson for a while

Had a mutual friend with a beard, I think.

epic update from Neil about archives vol 3 (now due out next summer it seems ...). Info nabbed from here: https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/neil-young-launches-online-archives-1st-december-2017.688177/page-921

Across the Water, Part 1 and 2: a two disc set ("albums and movies") that represents the '76 tour previously covered by Odeon-Budokan. He mentioned it contains songs from Odeon-Budokan, his shows in Hammersmith, Glasgow, and "somewhere else which I can't remember."

Hitchhikin' Judy: this covers the fall '76 tour ("which was a solo opening and then an intermission and then Crazy Horse'). He wasn't clear on if it contains both the solo acoustic performances and the CH performances, or even if any of the songs that appear on Hitchhiker (or anything else from this era) will appear.

Snapshot in Time: The "audio verite" audio documentary of him rehearsing with Nicolette and Linda before they began recording the songs that are on side B of American Stars 'N' Bars (a version of "Barefoot Floors" is supposed to be one of the tracks here).

Windward Passage: A live album of Ducks songs recorded live in Santa Cruz

Oceanside/Countryside: The album he made before Comes a Time that he recorded solo acoustic before overdubbing additional guitars. There's 12 tracks (of which only "1 or 2 that have surfaced" previously). Many of the original versions of the songs that are on Comes a Time can be found here.

Union Hall: the Give to the Wind Orchestra rehearsal for their show in Miami.

Boarding House 1 and Boarding House 2: now a two disc set, with Boarding House 2 including his session with DEVO that he did in the afternoon before one of his shows at the venue

Sedan Delivery: covers the Rust Never Sleeps period, but "it's different tracks selected from RNS," and it has a "wacky cover."

Coastline: covers the Hawks & Doves and Re-ac-tor era from July 1980-July 1981. It has "a lot of songs on it."

Trans EP and Johnny's Island: another two disc set. The Trans EP will be the vocodor tracks from the album isolated on their own ("it takes you to that place and you stay there").

Evolution: covers Jan 83-Jan 84.

Touch the Night: a compilation of the two shows from Feb 7th, 1984 with Crazy Horse.

Grey Riders: another two disc set that covers June 1984-September 1985.

Road of Plenty: It seems like the focus has shifted to covering the Landing on Water/Life period, based on the tracks Neil mentioned
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Summer Songs: This closes out the set.

...wow

dang, neil!

thanks for passing that on tylerw! is there anything in there that's particularly unheard or unannounced before? hitchhikin' judy sounds great to me

a ton of stuff that's unheard ... most of this had been mentioned over the years by Neil, but it was always unclear what would actually be included. This seems to be a more or less finalized plan ... the idea of more DEVO stuff is amazing, but I'm not sure whether it'll just be the "Hey Hey My My" that we've already heard. Would be cool if they did "Sedan Delivery," seems like a no-brainer to me.

yow! go Neil go!

I think archives 1 got reissued recently if anyone cares

holy shit!

Trans EP and Johnny's Island: another two disc set. The Trans EP will be the vocodor tracks from the album isolated on their own ("it takes you to that place and you stay there").

so I'm a little bummed out by this -- and please correct me if I'm misremembering tyler -- but i sweat in shakey mcdonough refers to the fact that there were more synth songs that were left off of trans in favor of the conventional rock stuff...i specifically remember a mention of a synth "razor love" which later surfaced on silver + gold

do you remember that?

i think the synth "razor love" was from later — I'm guessing it'll be on that disc entitled "Evolution"

ahh interesting, i figured i misremembered

Yow!

I listened to the Dume disc off of Archives II while driving up the coast and visiting Topanga Beach, Point Dume/Zuma Beach, and El Matador State Beach. Really great music and setting experience. It's put me on a big Neil kick.

I was listening to Somewhere Under the Rainbow, the "official" bootleg of a Tonight's the Night show from England. Neil gives all the regular Miami Beach raps, but he goes on an extended rap about how Bruce Berry lost a guitar and he fired him which leads to his death and overdose. Is Neil transposing what happened with Danny Whitten (sent him home from the tour) to Bruce Berry? Regardless, it's devastating.

According to Shakey, Bruce Berry stole a strat from David Crosby during the Byrds reunion in '73, and Crosby--who'd been led to believe that Berry had it together--fired him. Berry later overdosed on some bad heroin he'd acquired as part of coke deal he set up for another (unnamed) Rock star.

There's a similar story about Danny Whitten stealing a battered acoustic from Danny Hutton from Three Dog Night, who was extra-angry because that was the guitar he'd written his first hit with.

I forgot that from Shakey - it's been a long time since I read it. But given that it's Crosby that fired Berry, it doesn't make sense that Neil is feeling guilty. This is from the Whitten wiki:

Whitten lagged behind, figuring out the rhythm parts, though never in sync with the rest of the group. Young, who had more at stake after the success of After the Gold Rush and Harvest, fired him from the band on November 18, 1972. He gave Whitten $50 ($364 in 2023) and a plane ticket back to Los Angeles. Later that night Whitten died from ingesting a combination of diazepam, which he was taking for severe knee arthritis, and alcohol, which he was using to try to get over his heroin addiction.

Which is almost exactly the story that Neil gives in his rap about Berry, but replacing Whitten not being able to play guitar with Berry losing a guitar. Innaresting.

the 73 byrds reunion didn't tour at all so not sure where Berry was supposed to be stealing from, the studio or Crosby's house? maybe from a Crosby/Nash gig around the same time?

Iirc, it was in the studio during the album sessions, as Berry had been hired as Crosby's personal tech/roadie.

it's all in a short paragraph here btw