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> gently curving motorways
> is this as opposed to ramrod straight motorways, or motorways with insanely sharp bends?

In the US prairie, for sure. We're always falling asleep at the wheel.

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Terrycoth Baphomet (bendy), Saturday, 20 May 2023 23:20 (eleven months ago) link

Sic, you're not really šŸ˜  about this, are you?

pplains, Sunday, 21 May 2023 03:16 (eleven months ago) link

tbf my kitchen/bathroom sinks had separate taps until circa five years ago

the bathtub taps remain separate, and glitchy

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 May 2023 03:23 (eleven months ago) link

My guess is that seperate taps were common everywhere until the 60s, at which point all countries other than the UK gradually switched to the single tap. My feeling is that the UK is pretty much the only country left where it's common. For reasons unknown.

Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 21 May 2023 03:37 (eleven months ago) link

classic sic

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 May 2023 04:39 (eleven months ago) link

classic sic

pplains, Sunday, 21 May 2023 10:05 (eleven months ago) link

does seem a bit predictable

Stevo, Sunday, 21 May 2023 10:21 (eleven months ago) link

Consensus amongst my Portuguese friends living in London is we've seen more single taps in the UK than back home.

It's also agreed that double taps is somewhat old fashioned but it was still the default for us in the 90's and I'd imagine we're prob not the only ones so "rest of the world got rid of it in the 60's" feels chronologically off.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 21 May 2023 10:32 (eleven months ago) link

Hmmm. I've been going to Lisbon regularly since 1990 but I have to say the status of that great city's taps has never been top of mind. But I think I hold by my feeling that in 2023 at least, the only developed country where seperate taps seems a relatively normal state of affairs is the UK.

Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 21 May 2023 11:41 (eleven months ago) link

certainly grew up with both combines valve taps and two taps in Philadelphia and its suburbs, but the houses are old here, which might explain

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 21 May 2023 12:08 (eleven months ago) link

I work in three university buildings in London, the main one has shiny new mixer taps, the other two still have little sinks with two taps. the AC in all three buildings is laughable, as are the electrics. on the plus side I found a room with an old OHP machine the other week, psyched to try it out now.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 21 May 2023 12:19 (eleven months ago) link

In the late 80s I had a lecturer who had a frame with a long reel of acetate and a takeup spool. She clipped it on the overhead projector and wrote her lecture notes in a continuous stream, had the whole course on there and would occasionally wind it back to revisit earlier points.

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 21 May 2023 12:23 (eleven months ago) link

baller move

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 21 May 2023 12:24 (eleven months ago) link

My childhood bathroom sink (built 1980) had two taps/faucets. Still does! I think I see double taps/faucets all over the place, really, maybe it's ultimately just a style/choice/preference/affectation.

I had heard you let the water run for a bit before drinking not because of bacteria but because of the potential for lead (and nickel) contamination; the longer it's been sitting around (warm) the more lead it might get from the pipes, if you have lead pipes around.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 May 2023 12:28 (eleven months ago) link

Actually, come to think of it, the bathrooms in my current house all have two taps, lol. Wait, are we talking taps or faucets? One faucet, two taps. Is faucet vs. tap a regional distinction?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 May 2023 12:35 (eleven months ago) link

Tap is UK English, faucet is American English

But I assume weā€™re talking about two separate streams of water - not 2 taps/1 flow

just1n3, Sunday, 21 May 2023 13:05 (eleven months ago) link

OK, so we're talking one tap/stream/faucet for hot, one tap/stream/faucet for cold? In which case, no, I don't recall seeing that too often, maybe more often in bathtubs than in sinks. I do think my sister (in the UK) has a powder room with two taps/faucets, but it's a pretty old house.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 May 2023 13:27 (eleven months ago) link

I think you just described the same thing I did yesterday. One outlet, 2 controls. UK style is 2 separate water releasing units, one hot, one cold. So I think you are stuck mixing heats in the receptacle, sink or whatever rather than as it comes out of the outlet. So you can see why it would be something people would progress away from

Stevo, Sunday, 21 May 2023 13:30 (eleven months ago) link

which should have come with an xp since you just described the difference. But I was typing while holdiong my stereo which is in the way but has hopefully just been corrected a bit

Stevo, Sunday, 21 May 2023 13:32 (eleven months ago) link

So does that mean one outlet that only releases water at its hottest and the other water at its coldest? Must be uncomfortable to wash your face/hands!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 May 2023 13:36 (eleven months ago) link

that's what the basin and plug are for.

ledge, Sunday, 21 May 2023 13:38 (eleven months ago) link

Yes I think the original distinction is the number of outputs ie 2 valves each with their own output (ā€œtwo tapsā€) vs 2 valves leading to a single output (ā€œone tapā€). And then there is the truly single unit that pplains mentions where you sort of adjust it like a joystick to control both temperature & pressure

& yes Iā€™d say the first kind is easily the most common (particularly in houses, particularly old houses) but the other 2 are far from unheard of

michel goindry (wins), Sunday, 21 May 2023 13:54 (eleven months ago) link

in practice you just turn on the hot tap and wait for it to warm up and then wash your face and hands quickly before it reaches its blistering apex

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 21 May 2023 13:55 (eleven months ago) link

The worst is public toilets in pubs or wherever that donā€™t work properly & have a sign on them that says ā€œCAUTION WATER EXTREMELY HOTā€ meaning ā€œno seriously this water is way too hot to use and will scald youā€

How am I supposed to exercise this caution except by not using your broken tap?! How is the sign a solution to anything?

michel goindry (wins), Sunday, 21 May 2023 14:03 (eleven months ago) link

Public toilets often have those taps you push down and which, once pushed down, take ages to stop running and so waste a shitload of water.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Sunday, 21 May 2023 14:09 (eleven months ago) link

I work in a state of the art of 1995 green building, and the faucets are the ones with the little optical sensors that only turn on when you put your hand under them. And Iā€™d say about 30% of the time they donā€™t turn on for me at all, and I briefly have thought ā€œam I a vampire, am I a ghost, who just doesnā€™t knowā€¦?ā€

Terrycoth Baphomet (bendy), Sunday, 21 May 2023 15:48 (eleven months ago) link

Re: optical sensors

The time clock face scanner at work also takes temperatures. If the weather outside is below, say, 60Ā°F, the scanner reports my temperature as something like "Invalid temperature: 85.6Ā°" It rarely happens to other people. So I'm probably undead.

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 21 May 2023 22:14 (eleven months ago) link

It's nice to know there's ways of finding out if you're unsure like.
Liminality such a nice word.
But I'm sure immortality must get boring after a while.

Stevo, Monday, 22 May 2023 08:25 (eleven months ago) link

during the first wave of covid I started using an electronic thermometer and found out I've got a permanently hypothermic/undead body temperature. But I thought fuck it, it'll be reet - there is enough other stuff to worry about etc..

calzino, Monday, 22 May 2023 08:41 (eleven months ago) link

This latest exchange reminded me of the last stanza of Ian Duhig's poem, 'Goths' - appropriately, since it is, apparently World Goth Day

Black sheep, they pilgrimage twice a year to Whitby
through our landscape of dissolved monastery and pit,
which they will toast in ciderā€™nā€™blackcurrant, vegan blood.
They danse macabre at gigs like the Dracula Spectacula.
Next day, lovebitten and wincing in the light, they take
photographs of each other, hoping they won't develop.

Piedie Gimbel, Monday, 22 May 2023 08:54 (eleven months ago) link

curiously there are multiple goth books out at the moment

koogs, Monday, 22 May 2023 09:04 (eleven months ago) link

does seem a bit predictable

looking fwd to Mystic Stevoā€™s further predictions of things Iā€™ll post

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Monday, 22 May 2023 09:33 (eleven months ago) link

I'm looking forward to you copping onto what a complete douche I think you are..

Stevo, Monday, 22 May 2023 09:42 (eleven months ago) link

Lads

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 22 May 2023 09:43 (eleven months ago) link

Tom D otm.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 22 May 2023 09:46 (eleven months ago) link

XP I think I need to get around to reading that book on emotional vampires I picked up a few months back

Stevo, Monday, 22 May 2023 10:27 (eleven months ago) link

The time clock face scanner at work also takes temperatures...

ā€• Hideous Lump, Sunday, May 21, 2023 5:14 PM

The what?

pplains, Monday, 22 May 2023 14:15 (eleven months ago) link

[working with international students in the UK, this is absolutely one of the top complaints they have, it is not normal outside the UK.

ā€• the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, May 20, 2023 3:56 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Actually, the only place ive seen NOT have hot and cold taps is the USA. (Of course ive only been the australia and europe)

But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Monday, 22 May 2023 14:23 (eleven months ago) link

And that fucking stick that turns the water from bath to shower. Fuck that stick.

Also, your tiny toilet pipes. Fuck those too.

But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Monday, 22 May 2023 14:24 (eleven months ago) link

I think I've gone my whole life believing that internment referred to both imprisonment and burial. Turns out interment is not a spelling mistake, but the correct way of referring to burials.

emil.y, Monday, 22 May 2023 16:10 (eleven months ago) link

putting into the ground like.

Stevo, Monday, 22 May 2023 16:13 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, I've always been aware of "the body has been interred" etc, but for some reason my brain just rejected "interment" as a viable word.

emil.y, Monday, 22 May 2023 16:19 (eleven months ago) link

Terra = earth is how I remember this

she works hard for the monkey (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 22 May 2023 17:27 (eleven months ago) link

hard to forget that when you've done tedious exams with questions about the earthing arrangements of electrical distribution systems, like Terra-Neutral combined etc...

calzino, Monday, 22 May 2023 17:47 (eleven months ago) link

Make that "time clock/face scanner"

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 04:10 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, I've always been aware of "the body has been interred" etc, but for some reason my brain just rejected "interment" as a viable word.


Terms of interment

Alba, Tuesday, 23 May 2023 08:20 (eleven months ago) link

I think I've gone my whole life believing that internment referred to both imprisonment and burial. Turns out interment is not a spelling mistake, but the correct way of referring to burials.

ā€• emil.y, Monday, May 22, 2023 5:10 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

WHAT

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 08:43 (eleven months ago) link

oh ffs

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 08:43 (eleven months ago) link

When wiring a UK 3-pin plug, you can remember which wire goes on the left and which on the right because it's bLue on the Left and bRown on the Right.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 09:13 (eleven months ago) link


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