Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/19/national-conservatism-conference-leftwing-dark-age

This piece hits on some of the points Calzino is making. But I also felt that this was as much about where do the always unhappy racists go after they've been given everything they want through Brexit.

And Brexit was a 25 year project for these freaks. It was laughed at the beginning like this was.

The biggest issues for this to work are decline of newspapers and the decline of the state that gives a sizeable portion of people security and faith in what it does. It just won't deliver pensions and retirement and secure housing.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 21 May 2023 11:54 (eleven months ago) link

The Guardian has treated the Nat-C event with kid gloves mostly, even putting a video on YouTube titled 'The most memorable moments from...'.

nashwan, Sunday, 21 May 2023 12:08 (eleven months ago) link

NEW: Seven women say the columnist Nick Cohen groped them or made unwanted sexual advances while he was at The Observer.

A Financial Times reporter had the story, but her editor killed it. https://t.co/ETopgAUW25

— Jane Bradley (@jane__bradley) May 30, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 07:33 (eleven months ago) link

the wall of silence in UK media from so-called respectable journos and suppression of reportage that enabled and protected an offender for years must seem quite fucked up from the outside. That accompanying NYT pic looked like a Constable painting on my phone.

calzino, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 07:56 (eleven months ago) link

once again the NYT putting the British press to shame, god knows the Grey Lady has its problems but at least it manages to do some actual journalism now and again

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 08:12 (eleven months ago) link

another inevitable angle to this story of evil people revelling in evil

Hearing reports that the "gender criticals" are far less motivated by their opposition to misogyny than by their obsessive hatred of trans people, huge if true https://t.co/LdtPvNtnRZ

— Juliet. (@zinovievletter) May 30, 2023

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 09:00 (eleven months ago) link

is that D L I see on the thread of transphobic journos and degenerate creeps who were dismissing this as a whispering campaign against Cohen? shurely shome mistake

calzino, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 09:13 (eleven months ago) link

"these are false accusations from trans activists and Putinists" is a very normal line to take amongst this whole crowd of monsters

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 09:17 (eleven months ago) link

NC often appears on Podmasters programmes, where DL is also a contributor. Lay the blame for 🐙 continued appearances at the feet of Podmaster in chief/ex-Select editor Andrew Harrison rather than DL.

steely flan (suzy), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 09:24 (eleven months ago) link

when did DL stop posting on here? he was still around when I started. maybe he's still here, who knows?

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 09:30 (eleven months ago) link

xp I don't think anyone *blames* the tv am egg looking prick for anything to do with Cohen. Just pointing out the crowd he's running with. Not like anyone would care if he wasn't an ex-poster here

Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 09:46 (eleven months ago) link

After women complained of Nick Cohen's behaviour, it's embarrassing that Hadley's take is "look how the New York Times is mocking us Brits" pic.twitter.com/10GzthINCu

— RobotMaths (@robotmaths) May 30, 2023

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 13:08 (eleven months ago) link

even if he was constantly pissed for years, what kind of excuse is that? if anything it makes their silence and complicity even worse

calzino, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 13:22 (eleven months ago) link

Feel like this is now a recurring pattern in the Guardian:

Cost of living crisis? Won't somebody think of the shopkeepers?!?!
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/01/one-guy-uses-us-like-a-larder-the-british-shoplifting-crisis-as-seen-from-the-tills

Risk of Labour doing something moderately progressive? Won't somebody think of the smaller private schools?!?!
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/may/31/small-independent-schools-on-labour-private-school-tax-policy

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 1 June 2023 09:18 (eleven months ago) link

NC often appears on Podmasters programmes, where DL is also a contributor. Lay the blame for 🐙 continued appearances at the feet of Podmaster in chief/ex-Select editor Andrew Harrison rather than DL.


He’s been clear enough where he stands on this and it isn’t with the women

Perfectly normal behaviour https://t.co/XuDubJbITb

— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) October 3, 2021

michel goindry (wins), Thursday, 1 June 2023 10:03 (eleven months ago) link

Maybe also why NC got paid off.

It doesn't remotely excuse the organisations who covered up for him, but a not-insignificant reason people (even people he mistreated) kept quiet about Nick is ... pity. https://t.co/HCqhM5PJuZ

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 June 2023 11:14 (eleven months ago) link

One of the people that RT-ed that tweet is one of the victims

Taken me a while to want to comment on this. What I will say is that lots of people have self-disgust and despair. Most of us don't attempt to disseminate that stuff to the people around us. And if we find we have hurt someone, we take responsibility and we say sorry to them. https://t.co/7T8aqWZ9Au

— S Richards (@Sus_Richards) June 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 June 2023 11:23 (eleven months ago) link

15. Reporting on the recent CBI sexual assault charges @guardian quotes former CBI president, “People decided to go to the newspapers and not speak to us directly, which in itself points to something wrong with our culture,” [Damian McBride of CBI]

— lucy siegle (@lucysiegle) June 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:06 (eleven months ago) link

Is that the Damian McBride?

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:40 (eleven months ago) link

apparently the former CBI president is Brian McBride, Graun pieces vmic

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:45 (eleven months ago) link

lol

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:51 (eleven months ago) link

The word you're looking for is 'shot'. https://t.co/Qiq9HxewgD

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 8, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 9 June 2023 08:23 (ten months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/11/labour-opposition-power-keir-starmer-party

Harris considers the possibility that KS might be authoritarian in power.

Along the way he naturally asserts that JC was similar.

the pinefox, Sunday, 11 June 2023 11:45 (ten months ago) link

absolutely insane paragraph to publish pic.twitter.com/CDVBF46jYF

— Horace Goodwill, tonicke purveyor (@eff_hey) June 11, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 June 2023 22:16 (ten months ago) link

the gulag is too good for these

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 June 2023 23:57 (ten months ago) link

Say what you like about Hitler, at least he had rules

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 12 June 2023 00:47 (ten months ago) link

having statistical preferences when selecting one's victims hardly amounts to "having rules"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 12 June 2023 00:51 (ten months ago) link

oh this pumper is the guy who wrote a book about how the Putin regime (unlike Western democracies where governments are transparent and honest as the day is long) use lies and misinformation to melt reality.

calzino, Monday, 12 June 2023 06:12 (ten months ago) link

There was another hysterical column in the Guardian about Russia/Ukraine a few days previously, real Russians have horns stuff.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Monday, 12 June 2023 06:38 (ten months ago) link

It is amusing to see which comments the Guardian chooses to highlight under an article. Beneath Wurzel's latest offering the Guardian pick is

In opposition the Labour party has to face the hostility of the right wing press, the skepticism of the city, the lies of the brexiteers told over and over again to a worried electorate. If they need to be cold, cynical and paranoid in order to get the current shower out of office, that's fine by me.

Piedie Gimbel, Monday, 12 June 2023 08:15 (ten months ago) link

the selective myopia of GTTO never gets old for some people. If they have throw every vulnerable minority under a bus and starve disabled people to death to get this evil party out of office, then that'll do for me

calzino, Monday, 12 June 2023 08:30 (ten months ago) link

It is amusing to see which comments the Guardian chooses to highlight under an article.

I blame ILX poster Alba !!

the pinefox, Monday, 12 June 2023 09:01 (ten months ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/14/labour-tory-uncosted-policies-free-childcare-green-new-deal

ZW still thinks that the people in charge of Labour are good people.

"My happy place is to default back to the question: when will Labour realise that you cannot inspire voters by ceaselessly counselling caution? But you cannot consider that seriously without making a proper reckoning of how much the Conservatives have polluted the ecosystem of campaigning."

You have not made a reckoning of how Labour have polluted campaigning and public life.

"How does an opposition party meet that challenge? With secrecy? By floating decoy ideas? How do you insist on this fundamental difference between your parties, that you are sincere and they are not?"

They are not sincere.

If you think the people running Labour are good sincere people then you have not paid attention to anything they have said or done.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:35 (ten months ago) link

abject nihilism, her and everybody still cheering for them

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 16:41 (ten months ago) link

there is some half-hearted gentle criticism of Labour in there about their fiscal caution. But no mention of austerity because it doesn't exist any more to most Graun writers, apart from Aditya C I think.

calzino, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 17:33 (ten months ago) link

This article was amended on 5 June 2023 to remove references to James Shackell’s jaffle maker being made of cast iron.

ledge, Friday, 16 June 2023 09:57 (ten months ago) link

'james shackell's jaffle maker' is an exquisite collection of sounds

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 16 June 2023 10:41 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Save yoga from Guardian writers.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/05/after-20-years-of-yoga-im-hanging-up-my-mat-for-good

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 14:13 (ten months ago) link

It's probably v. horrible of me to laugh at this but the report on the aftermath of the Wimbledon school crash contains this amazing paragraph:

On Friday afternoon, a black-cab driver pulled up outside the school, stood quietly facing the scene for a few moments, said a few words to himself, then got back in his cab and drove away.

NickB, Friday, 7 July 2023 16:48 (nine months ago) link

It's like something out of Maigret

NickB, Friday, 7 July 2023 16:51 (nine months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/9ygs053.jpg

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 July 2023 16:17 (nine months ago) link

Guardian writers to go ballistic.l over this.

This was always a cruel ruling based on bigotry. Much like the trans ban (though Caster Semenya isn’t trans). Forcing a cis woman to take drugs to compete, changing the rules only for her events. I hope she sues ⁦@WorldAthletics⁩ and ⁦Lord Coe. https://t.co/ziOwxAxt9D

— India Willoughby (@IndiaWilloughby) July 11, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 13:39 (nine months ago) link

Click on this link for a laugh:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/18/heatwave-floods-save-planet-children

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 10:37 (nine months ago) link

No sense of how we mitigate climate collapse beyond Biden's name being mentioned at the bottom of this. Oh and the author has a book out.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 10:42 (nine months ago) link

put a cork in Biden's piehole, that will cut down greenhouse gases! She doesn't seem to appreciate that the meteor might have delivered a blink of the eye coup de grace to the dinosaurs. But they would have noticed hundreds of thousands of years of climate change related wipeouts and volcanic ash carnage from the Deccan eruptions. It wasn't like they were having a dino party before the rock hit the bay of mexico - they were already deep into a mass extinction event. No I am not a top geo scientist, but I've namedropped Biden so this ill informed post will get published.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 11:35 (nine months ago) link

Amused and impressed by Calzino's knowledge of Jurassic pre-history !

the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 11:54 (nine months ago) link

been a top dino expert since the age of 6. Then went through a period of being obsessed with mass extinctions in my 40's! But to be brutally honest I'm not an expert more of an idiot - but my point was that published writer in the Graun sounds like an idiot as well.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 12:24 (nine months ago) link

I can't remember which book it was but the late Jurassic earth's climate was described as a "post-apocalyptic greenhouse". there weren't any "acceptance and reconstruction" options available like Gaia Vince is talking up - it was locked in and vast regions of the planet would become uninhabitable - same thing happening now. But yeah let's just embrace it.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 12:38 (nine months ago) link

Wait, Gaia... did the planet Earth write this?

the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 17:13 (nine months ago) link

Slightly more plausibly, is she anything to do with Dale Vince?

the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 17:14 (nine months ago) link


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