Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

need that prayer coin baby

Hard working needler Chotiner on Cannon:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/will-the-judge-in-trumps-case-recuse-herself-or-be-forced-to

Miami-Dade County's former mayor (who did a fine job during COVID) and my current House rep has been busy:

🚨Yes, I played golf with President Trump this week.

We need Donald Trump back in the White House because this country cannot afford another 4 years of Joe Biden! pic.twitter.com/VG5p9KJdRp

— Carlos A. Gimenez (@CarlosGimenezFL) June 12, 2023

Yes, in these challenging times, we need a guy who plays a lot of golf back in the White House.

that new yorker piece is a clear summary, ty for link xp

In these challenging times, why isn’t the White House a really dope-ass golf club?

make america golf again

Putter emails

hey remember how spies from foreign countries kept getting arrested at Mar-a-Lago and it just ended up being one of those weird stories nobody could make heads or tails of

weird coincidence

apologies if this has been addressed in thread, but is there a reason he wanted to keep these boxes so badly? was there some benefit or was it just a bilbo baggins "why shouldn't i keep it?" situation?

Forget it, ums, it's Trumptown.

idk it's still kind of a mystery, given his strange deferential relationship with Putin and Kim Jong Un plus the very shady looking deals Kushner got it wouldn't surprise me if he's just straight up selling government secrets. but also Trump is the one guy who might just take this stuff because he thought it was cool, or maybe out of bitterness, I know for most people it wouldn't matter but in this case I think it will

afaict he did indeed go full Gollum.

“It's not theirs; it's mine,” several advisers say Mr. Trump told them.

Occam's razor in full effect. Why did Trump take them? Because he is a selfish, shortsighted, self-obsessed moron.

what's really funny is Trump was reported as frustrating all the records people when he was in office, because any time he's finished with anything, it was reported he'd habitually crumple up whatever it was he was reading and throw it in the trash. so someone's job was to fish things out and uncrumple them because there are rules about presidential record retention

presumably he needed as many documents as possible because he's wrecking them after waving them around and bragging

The example in the indictment was Trump using the documents to prove that deep state people (i.e. Gen. Milley) were lying about him in the press.

If he has something he thinks he can use against his enemies, he's going to try to hang onto it

hey remember how spies from foreign countries kept getting arrested at Mar-a-Lago and it just ended up being one of those weird stories nobody could make heads or tails of

― frogbs, Monday, June 12, 2023 10:50 AM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

weird coincidence

― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, June 12, 2023 10:51 AM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

That’s so crazy! If only there were a reason we could discern from subsequent events

its pretty funny how much he liked the secret docs considering hes not really a details guy, doesnt seem like he really wanted to do anything with them maybe just memorabilia to him

waving them around to impress people, its very silly, everyone knows you were president you dont really need props

tho tbf i could see how they would help sell the bit

He's probably a bit like that dictator in the Carolyn Forche poem who shows off the ears of enemies to his visitors.

its pretty funny how much he liked the secret docs considering hes not really a details guy, doesnt seem like he really wanted to do anything with them maybe just memorabilia to him

― lag∞n, Monday, June 12, 2023 12:49 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

waving them around to impress people, its very silly, everyone knows you were president you dont really need props

― lag∞n, Monday, June 12, 2023 12:50 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

tho tbf i could see how they would help sell the bit

― lag∞n, Monday, June 12, 2023 12:50 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm, it's not any deeper than it helps feed his massive narcissism as a totem that he was the most important person on the planet for four years.

this is just a divide that is bigger than the biggest divide you can think of. so divide. way divide. how? why?

"Eighty percent of likely Republican primary voters in a new poll think former President Trump should still be able to get back to the Oval Office even if he’s convicted in the classified documents case."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4044648-80-percent-of-likely-gop-voters-think-trump-should-still-be-able-to-be-president-if-convicted/?fbclid=IwAR1l-EaEwQ3_P6mDpZiciOAdswwiaTM_ATKBiJHDZrTel3ot8z5SDM6Bb78

trading ramen noodles for diet cokes. signing bills. working on his swing. writing his prison manifesto. inviting the NCAA championship team to his cell for non-alcoholic toilet wine...

They said, sir, you have this wonderful system for doing the garlic. I used a razor, and I used to slice it so thin that it used to liquefy in the pan with just a little oil. It was a very good system.

apologies if this has been addressed in thread, but is there a reason he wanted to keep these boxes so badly? was there some benefit or was it just a bilbo baggins "why shouldn't i keep it?" situation?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

based on those transcripts & his general personality, i think he literally just wanted to use them to flex

Going great:

New: Trump expected to leave Bedminster shortly to get to Florida this afternoon. He’s spending the day meeting potential lawyers — though David Markus is said to have already turned him down. Another said to be meeting with Trump is Ben Kuehne, who has previously been indicted.

— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) June 12, 2023

"Eighty percent of likely Republican primary voters in a new poll think former President Trump should still be able to get back to the Oval Office even if he’s convicted in the classified documents case."

They already have their wish. Legally speaking, he's not barred from the office. All he has to do is win a majority of the votes of the electoral college and he's back in.

Perhaps relatedly

APPOINTMENT OF COUNSEL IN TRUMP CASE:

I've seen folks speculating that Trump could have appointed counsel or a public defender. He can't. Appointment of counsel in these cases is under the Criminal Justice Act (CJA). (This is a core area of expertise for me.) 1/ https://t.co/WI69RjkFjY

— Lee Kovarsky (@lee_kovarsky) June 12, 2023

He's so innocent no one wants to represent him. Too easy.

read your bible

"January 6th is gonna look like a playground" - Trump supporter Pat speaks outside of Trump National Doral Miami where Former President expected to arrive for his second Indictment - "All we need is an order, we are ready" pic.twitter.com/IbKyMwnNbz

— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) June 12, 2023

its been said before in this thread but I don't think the right has another J6 in them, the first one went so incredibly poorly

nah, it was all a set-up to lose the dead weight. the next batch of assholes will be extra hardcore.

Just think, if they riot at the courthouse and get themselves thrown in prison then they can be part of Trump's prison gang

its been said before in this thread but I don't think the right has another J6 in them, the first one went so incredibly poorly

yeah, considering it accomplished nothing but getting participants arrested and fired from their jobs, i'm not sure how gung-ho they'd be for a part 2.

Seeing as these folks proudly fly old Dixie and Nazi flags, they obviously don't care about being on the successful side.

last time around they actually had the belief that the Trump-lead military and government was going to be on their side. which of course happened but not to the degree that they succeeded. now they don't even have that.

the average person wants to go to see Zach Brown Band on Saturday and you can't do that dead or in jail

one thing's for sure every time something happens that's unambiguously bad for Trump a bunch of insane right-wing assholes (and the New York Times) will scream about how it's actually good for him

I dunno, man, Trump supporter Pat looks like he's been storing up potential energy on that La-Z-Boy for the past 62 years and waiting like a cobra for the moment to strike.

Did that fuckwad say that if Trump gets indoctrinated January 6 is gonna look like a playground?

At this point there are plenty of extreme right LARPers who'll jabber ominously if you put a camera on them and invite them to tell the world how fearsome they are. My sense is that the more competent leadership, capable of forming a plan of action with a ghost of a chance, the type who have relevant military or police training, have either been indicted & convicted or have burrowed themselves deeper underground and are waiting for a more favorable moment such as might be provided with a close election or Trump back in office.

the first one went so incredibly poorly

I disagree. When you consider how small the central core of the conspirators was and how small a force they had at their disposal, they came unbelievably close to success. They nearly handed Trump a pretext for declaring a state of emergency. They expected him to use that gift to complete their coup d'etat. What they failed to understand was that Trump is incompetent. And very lazy. And by far the wrong person to trust to pull his weight.

admittedly I'm not that well read up on what the plan actually *was* but I thought something like that would depend on Republicans going along with it in lockstep when in fact they were all scared out of their minds

That moron in the clip does have a distinctive voice, he'd be a nice baritone for the next Trump prison-gang song grift.

xxpost That judge was right to emphasize how dangerous someone like Stewart Rhodes is, because he's (apparently) charismatic, smart and driven. Even if one were to concede the first trait in Trump's case, he sure as hell ain't the other two things.

*capitol police officers watching this in the break room* https://t.co/rxe08GWXyd

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 12, 2023

guessing the turnout will be higher than it was in New York but I'm still not sure if there will be more reporters or Trump supporters

Well, it's Florida, for starters.

Is this courthouse on the water? Could be a lot of idiots on boats, they do love a good boat parade.