thats a common misconception iirc, and somewhat of a retrofit
the phrase is actually traced most reliably back to the seafaring peoples of the volga trade routes: sove, dvs der im en gammel hest
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, 19 June 2023 22:52 (ten months ago) link
― Dan Worsley, Monday, 19 June 2023 22:33 (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
tyrone by this
buts lets be real, the word to use here is mispronounced tbf
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, 19 June 2023 22:56 (ten months ago) link
I learned something new today about horsey teeth!
I always assumed “long in the tooth” had something to do with rodents teeth. If a rabbit doesn’t have something to gnaw on, their teeth will grow so long they can’t close their mouths or eat.
But the horse thing makes more sense.
― Cow_Art, Monday, 19 June 2023 23:06 (ten months ago) link
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, June 19, 2023 5:52 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
you need to cite your sources
― budo jeru, Monday, 19 June 2023 23:22 (ten months ago) link
cards on table, the day i code and host a mock website as a source in order to underpin a classic ilx reference as a meta comment on how a discussion has unnecessarily grown quite ridiculous legs, that's the day i know the free time has reached a dangerous level altogether*
*i considered it
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, 19 June 2023 23:35 (ten months ago) link
...I thought "long in the tooth" was a reference to receding gums?
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Monday, 19 June 2023 23:48 (ten months ago) link
Can we just maybe quantify how often you get given a horse? Not that often.
Being given a car (while perhaps more comprehensible) seems about as rare.
If you have a though time thinking about how often someone has an extra horse and just fuckin decides to give it to you?
Imagine how many times in your life you have had a few too many cars, and the most sensible course of action is to give one or two away.
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 00:50 (ten months ago) link
*tough time
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 00:51 (ten months ago) link
The sentiment is perhaps better described in my father's favorite saying: "If it's free, it's for me."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 00:55 (ten months ago) link
My mum gave me her old car as a surprise gift a few years ago. Because the car was really pretty old and well used (100,000+ miles on the odometer at the time) there did in fact ensue a number of joking gift horse/car conversations between us in regard to tax, insurance, MOT and repair costs, as well as how it was to drive, especially at anything over 50mph.
― brain (krakow), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 07:54 (ten months ago) link
Ok, one car, cool.
Is there anybody here who has been given a horse?
Or given someone a horse (presumably one of their extra horses)?
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 08:10 (ten months ago) link
Trone Poor, i think you'll find.
― fetter, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 08:13 (ten months ago) link
Sorry YMP! It was funny though that thinking back my mum basically did tell me not to look a gift car in the MOuTh.
― brain (krakow), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 09:21 (ten months ago) link
I knew a Spanish guy when I was first in Galway who was given a mini van/car and then had it seized by the gards when they stopped him in the centre of town and realised he had no license or insurance. So it does happen, may depend on the circles one hangs around with.
― Stevo, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 09:26 (ten months ago) link
"I've never seen him take to a new rider like that. Look at them together, they're almost one and the same! Tell you what, Robbins, you take that bank deed back to the fire pit and I'll see if your little girl can keep that horse. Gonna have to talk to the boss first."
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 13:13 (ten months ago) link
This is solidly in the “interesting facts I found on the internet” category but anyway…
The songwriter Fred Ebb (Cabaret, Chicago, etc) was instrumental in the arrest of the murderer whose crime inspired the novel and then film Looking for Mr. Goodbar.
Ebb was somehow friends with the guy who was out drinking with the murderer on the night of the murder and to whom the murderer immediately confessed.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 21:06 (ten months ago) link
!
― Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 21:21 (ten months ago) link
I've been given a horse. I worked on a farm that bred Appaloosas when I was in high school. They gave me a brood mare in foal when I graduated. I did not check her mouth.
― Jaq, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 22:05 (ten months ago) link
lol amazing
so did you also get a foal? I'm not 100% sure of the terminology there!
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 22:07 (ten months ago) link
Yes, a little filly - so 2 for 1 deal. Just what every engineering college freshman needs!
― Jaq, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 22:47 (ten months ago) link
― budo jeru, Monday, June 19, 2023 6:22 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, June 19, 2023 6:35 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
wait ... this was a "sleep, that's where i'm a viking" joke?
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 02:14 (ten months ago) link
i think i thought you were the other british person who types in all lowercase, but you're the one who makes cryptic jokes and he's the one who would actually know about some random etymology
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 02:15 (ten months ago) link
the only not annoying way to use this website is never to post on it
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 02:20 (ten months ago) link
oooh british— u r having me on? etc
― rick james, critical moralist (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 02:53 (ten months ago) link
did someone call dmac british dialing 9-1 right now and holding my finger over the 1
― mh, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 03:05 (ten months ago) link
mark s is the uk knower about things but also the one who makes cryptic jokes
― Grandall Flange (wins), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 06:21 (ten months ago) link
Also knows about cryptids, it’s a whole mess
Hibernia? That's where I'm a Briton!
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 06:35 (ten months ago) link
British Isles, innit?
― Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 June 2023 06:38 (ten months ago) link
Didn't know that Bing Crosby recorded a special 'NATO Song' to mark NATO's 10th anniversary on 4 April 1959 (article about it here).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WJIB8hbiYM
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Thursday, 22 June 2023 09:11 (ten months ago) link
kingo coleo
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 June 2023 12:50 (ten months ago) link
Bobby Fischer, a name I knew only because it was in a movie title but the person was famous for chess.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 25 June 2023 03:29 (ten months ago) link
Among other things, yes. Or maybe "infamous" for other things.
But he could play the hell out of chess, that's for sure.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 25 June 2023 03:31 (ten months ago) link
well, also amy's dad
― mookieproof, Sunday, 25 June 2023 03:31 (ten months ago) link
When Bobby played Boris Spassky for the world championship it got in depth coverage from Sports Illustrated. Ofc, due to the Vietnam War/Cold War the whole 'showdown between American & Russian masterminds' was a big angle to gin up interest, plus Fischer was the personification of the unpredictable and unstable genius. It was a great drama, I gotta say.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 25 June 2023 04:02 (ten months ago) link
and then we got an actor who loved to joke about genocide and has since become a saint
― mookieproof, Sunday, 25 June 2023 04:03 (ten months ago) link
Fischer was the personification of the unpredictable and unstable genius. It was a great drama
Yeah but Nabokov had already written The Luzhin Defense 40 years earlier.
― pomplamoose and circumstance (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 25 June 2023 04:23 (ten months ago) link
A podcast on Medeival Sexuality talking about pligrimages being opportunities for collecting sins that one is likely to get allowances for once one arrives at teh pilgrimage site .& how medeival women on pilgrimages may be wearing badges that might now seem NSFWhttps://i.redd.it/gcsxkl5jr9u51.jpghttps://www.ecosia.org/images?q=medieval%20badges%20of%20vulvas%20with%20hats#id=8A6C4C10EDA9BBED333A8E2DE8486BE60218E83C
Looks like some of these are being made again
― Stevo, Monday, 26 June 2023 11:19 (ten months ago) link
sorry should have done thishttps://cdn.historycollection.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/penis-tree-marginalia-to-roman-de-la-rose-14th-century.jpg
which was another image described in the episodehttps://open.spotify.com/episode/0VeOZyyeuxJQsIE3LQ8qzI?si=226b9628f02d47dd
― Stevo, Monday, 26 June 2023 11:24 (ten months ago) link
That blini (the little pancakes) are of Russian origin.Maybe 2 years ago? Previously I thought they were Indian. A combination of only ever buying them to eat at home, rather than ordering them in a restaurant, plus wrong association with other foods ending in 'i' - bhaji, biriyani etc - being the reason.
― Grandpont Genie, Monday, 26 June 2023 13:26 (ten months ago) link
somehow I only just learned the story behind Macron's marriage o_O
― rob, Saturday, 1 July 2023 19:26 (ten months ago) link
That there was a University gig network in ireland in the mid 70s until the late 80s.I'd wondered what the story was on arriving fro. Hitching around gigs in the UK and colleges being a significant network. Just got told today that there had been one set up and ended when continual assessment and other academic focus became a significant factor. So I'd missed one by a couple of years rather than it never existing.
There was a talk on gigs from late 70s and early 80s in Galway this afternoon.So that came out in that. I had wondered though.Plus with setting up stadium gigs like the venue that had been the Point and has been a few other things since. Meant that instead of having to work out logistics for a series of smaller gigs around the country they could get audience to all go to one point.Interesting talk tied in with an exhibition of posters from the time.
― Stevo, Sunday, 2 July 2023 00:05 (ten months ago) link
there was a film on bbc1 last night (actually right now!) that might've covered this called Good Vibrations. seems to be the story of Terri Hooley, so more Belfast-based. it's from 2012 but i don't think I've seen it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05569p9
― koogs, Sunday, 2 July 2023 00:45 (ten months ago) link
I don't know if Belfat would be part of same network since education system different in Northern Ireland. It would make sense to coordinate since a band would be in vague geographical proximity.But border may create problems up to a certain point. Goods were smuggled across that border to escape duty up until some legislation change, not sure what Brexut has meant since not been up since 2009.
I think Good Vibrations was a good documentary. I could never remember if I had been in the shop concerned. Which is an oversight. But I was broke and didn't have a real base when I was up in Belfast in the early 90s so wouldn't be looking for records.
― Stevo, Sunday, 2 July 2023 05:47 (ten months ago) link
Burt Lancaster’s career started as a circus acrobat.
― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 21:53 (nine months ago) link
that's where he learned to chew the scenery
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 22:10 (nine months ago) link
I just learned today that Debbie Harry and Chris Stein have not been a couple since 1987. I don’t keep up with that kind of stuff much at all, but still: 36 years ago.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 22:47 (nine months ago) link
That the dude behind Dave's Killer Bread (he sold the company in 2015) was a goddamn maniac and multiple felon. (The bread is excellent.)― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 25 May 2023 04:29 (one month ago) link
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 25 May 2023 04:29 (one month ago) link
this got me fearful of the Heidelberg bread backstory.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 9 July 2023 05:55 (nine months ago) link
Lego Feet is considered part of the autechre discography?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autechre_discography
― koogs, Monday, 10 July 2023 11:21 (nine months ago) link
Johnny Marr is a stage name
(Born John Maher)
― Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 10 July 2023 11:34 (nine months ago) link