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Yeah, I think they paused it because they had an overwhelming rush of people signing up, for some reason.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:28 (ten months ago) link

it seems to be working fine today theyll prob turn reg back on soon

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:30 (ten months ago) link

hell is empty and all the shitposters are here (on bluesky)

mark s, Sunday, 2 July 2023 15:39 (ten months ago) link

caek otm.

There’s no reason to believe this is related to their Google Cloud infrastructure. In addition to caek’s point that it wasn’t used for essential services, it’s, as far as I know, unprecedented for an account of Twitter’s size to be immediately suspended by _any_ cloud provider. Especially on Google Cloud as Google has the reputation of trying to save every possible deal. Nevertheless, it’s a useful reminder that cloud providers, for whatever reason, don’t have anything close to the regulatory framework other utilities do, so I think it’s still possible for them to immediately suspend customers.

I think the story isn’t more complicated than a cascading failure that’s extremely challenging to debug when the people who wrote the systems are MIA. I imagine this is why the engineers want to rewrite.

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 2 July 2023 16:03 (ten months ago) link

apologies, but does anyone here happen to have a Bluesky invite they might be willing to share with ... uh ... me?

― alpine static, Sunday, July 2, 2023 5:02 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I’ve been getting some every few days. I’ll post them when I have them. But maybe they’ll slow down sending invite codes for a few days?

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 2 July 2023 16:07 (ten months ago) link

the weird rate limit was a nice little window into how twitter hydrates user timeline caches and what is/isn’t pre-populated

mh, Sunday, 2 July 2023 16:08 (ten months ago) link

Some real high school vibes at Twitter right now, everyone on the site is actively celebrating the it’s demise while plotting ways to break it further

frogbs, Sunday, 2 July 2023 17:42 (ten months ago) link

Yeah GCP doesn’t just cut off customers that spend hundreds of millions a year on the first of the month at midnight UTC.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 2 July 2023 17:44 (ten months ago) link

There’s apparently a specific service to do with the creation and modification of load balancing/network abuse rules that ran on GCP. Unexpected loss of that could have triggered this problem but seems more likely that they shut it down deliberately last month to save money and effectively tied their hands behind their back when whatever actually caused this problem (which admittedly could have been actual abuse like musk seems to think) started off. These systems are so complicated and interconnected and it’s so hard to reason about whether it’s safe to remove a service. I can see why a rewrite is tempting when the only people who had a chance of reasoning like that are on a beach somewhere.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 2 July 2023 17:50 (ten months ago) link

i will make them a new website i think i understand react server components now

lag∞n, Sunday, 2 July 2023 17:55 (ten months ago) link

I love doing my job at Twitter, where I am CEO. My job is liking the tweets of my CTO, who is also my boss. I have made no formal statement about my company effectively shutting down on a holiday weekend, and have left this up to my CTO/boss, who seems confused all the time pic.twitter.com/3wE713ff03

— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) July 2, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 2 July 2023 19:32 (ten months ago) link

Funny bcz it's true.

All of us still on Twitter as it gets worse and worse every day pic.twitter.com/6eASJtPJLn

— Sophie Hall (@SophLouiseHall) July 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 July 2023 19:52 (ten months ago) link

THE FIRST MAN IN LINE GRAB A TWEET. THE SECOND MAN GRAB REPLIES. WHEN THE FIRST MAN IS RATE LIMITED, THE SECOND MAN PICKS UP THE TWEET AND POSTS pic.twitter.com/VSKyD5yUSp

— Zane Schacht - Voice Goblin 🐀 (@VoicesByZane) July 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 July 2023 19:54 (ten months ago) link

You may think Twitter is dying but when there’s a Man Utd fan releasing a 1 hour 49 minute film of his own goalkeeper’s mistakes then I can assure you this app has never been more alive. https://t.co/OgHINCcyMF

— Hank Azulinger (@iammrazul) July 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 08:22 (ten months ago) link

You may think Twitter is dying but when there’s a Man Utd fan releasing a 1 hour 49 minute film of his own goalkeeper’s mistakes then I can assure you this app has never been more alive. https://t.co/OgHINCcyMF

— Hank Azulinger (@iammrazul) July 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 08:22 (ten months ago) link

Twitter's stopped me liking posts this morning.

serving aunt (stevie), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:57 (ten months ago) link

On some level I'm glad as I don't enjoy the platform and am using it out of habit / to distract from a sentence that's proving difficult to construct.

serving aunt (stevie), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:58 (ten months ago) link

And now I can't post either. I might actually get some work done today!

serving aunt (stevie), Monday, 3 July 2023 08:59 (ten months ago) link

third day of this shit going on when has a major site ever been broken for three days its crazy

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 12:39 (ten months ago) link

one would think theyd try to roll back whatever they did to cause this but perhaps elon doesnt want to

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 12:40 (ten months ago) link

I still haven't hit a limit.

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Monday, 3 July 2023 14:16 (ten months ago) link

it was fine for me yesterday but down today

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 14:19 (ten months ago) link

All fine both yesterday and today.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 14:20 (ten months ago) link

Not sure some dude ever still posts to ilx, but he's saying all of his tweets from the month of June have vanished.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 3 July 2023 14:26 (ten months ago) link

lol gdamn

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 14:28 (ten months ago) link

420 dimensional chess

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 3 July 2023 15:22 (ten months ago) link

can somebody erase all my tweets too please

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 July 2023 15:25 (ten months ago) link

All fine both yesterday and today.


Do you pay the $8

Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 3 July 2023 15:41 (ten months ago) link

mine is back up now

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 15:48 (ten months ago) link

I haven't run into any of these issues this week, is that because I only go on via desktop? I deleted my app months ago. (Also I never post, I just lurk.)

i use the website mostly too

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 15:51 (ten months ago) link

I have never registered an account and certainly now never will, and I am unable to see any tweets.

Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 3 July 2023 16:04 (ten months ago) link

well that part of Elon's plan worked then

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Monday, 3 July 2023 16:13 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, that is definitely in effect. Which is SO DUMB, because Twitter has typically had a lot (no idea how much) of traffic from non-users who follow links. Which is good for advertisers, obviously. And since the blue ticks are obviously not paying any bills, he needs as many eyeballs as he can get. But obviously trying to figure out the "business plan" here is useless, there isn't one.

I mean half the stories that get pushed out feature Twitter embeds that have needed context for the story that the article doesn't make redundant.

today I found a weird one where I went to an article and every embedded tweet showed up as the first ever tweet by Jack Dorsey, "just setting up my twittr", instead of the tweet that was supposed to appear there.

sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2023 16:46 (ten months ago) link

Do you pay the $8
― Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 3 July 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Imagine paying to use twitter after all this...someone somewhere is doing it.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 16:46 (ten months ago) link

plenty of idiots are

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 3 July 2023 16:49 (ten months ago) link

not the most original observation but elon came from industries where you sell things not advertising and he really thinks you should be able to sell twitter but its just not true

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 16:58 (ten months ago) link

and its a well established industry truth, but he thinks hes smarter

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 16:58 (ten months ago) link

there's definitely some logic to it if you think doing so will encourage people to sign up, which maybe makes sense if your social network is brand new (like it might make sense for Bluesky, if you wanna see what's going on there we want you to make an account) but Twitter is like 15 years old now, if someone doesn't have an account there by now they just aren't gonna make one. but they still might click on things or look at certain people's feeds (obviously it's still pretty good for say, NBA free agency news), and they will still see ads, so....I can only imagine this is happening because Twitter can't handle the traffic right now

several sites I visit have little widgets which show recent tweets by the author, all those seem to be broken right now, or purposely shut off. idk that seems kinda bad, like one of Twitter's strengths is that everywhere you go online will link to it somewhere, now you're just encouraging people to remove Twitter stuff entirely

frogbs, Monday, 3 July 2023 17:02 (ten months ago) link

yeah hes killing it, been in a death spiral for a while prob

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 17:05 (ten months ago) link

I've barely been paying attention, but where are we currently on the 'dickhead rich guy showing his arse' to 'intentionally breaking something beautiful because too woke' spectrum?

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Monday, 3 July 2023 17:16 (ten months ago) link

yeah hes killing it, been in a death spiral for a while prob

― lag∞n, Monday, July 3, 2023 12:05 PM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

for sure...there's a reason the previous owners were so desperate to ensure the deal went through, from what I'd read Twitter's new user signups were not where they needed to be and social media networks by and large do not have a way to reverse things once the numbers start dropping. still what Elon is doing is just jaw dropping stuff, while I don't think he's *trying* to kill Twitter the fact that people are suspecting that may be the case is not exactly a good sign

frogbs, Monday, 3 July 2023 17:53 (ten months ago) link

fwiw i dont think it was in a death spiral before elon bought it, which is not to say there werent strategic challenges but thats not the same thing as actually being in the process of dying

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 17:56 (ten months ago) link

I don't think he's *trying* to kill Twitter

Unclear tho if he's trying not to.

it's his current plaything. he figures that because he's such a bold genius if he just keeps tinkering with it eventually he'll land on The Perfect Formula That Solves Everything

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 3 July 2023 18:10 (ten months ago) link

my personal theory about Elon Musk's psychology, motivation and core values is that he's a shit cunt.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 July 2023 18:12 (ten months ago) link

could be

lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 18:13 (ten months ago) link

the articles I've read on the subject claimed that Twitter probably could tread water for a while but that the best case scenario is that it would slowly bleed out in the next 10-15 years. no idea how true that analysis is but yeah when I think of a major site going into a death spiral it's not last year's Twitter (which still seemed pretty alive), it's Twitter right now

frogbs, Monday, 3 July 2023 18:14 (ten months ago) link


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