Yeah, that is definitely in effect. Which is SO DUMB, because Twitter has typically had a lot (no idea how much) of traffic from non-users who follow links. Which is good for advertisers, obviously. And since the blue ticks are obviously not paying any bills, he needs as many eyeballs as he can get. But obviously trying to figure out the "business plan" here is useless, there isn't one.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 3 July 2023 16:42 (ten months ago) link
I mean half the stories that get pushed out feature Twitter embeds that have needed context for the story that the article doesn't make redundant.
today I found a weird one where I went to an article and every embedded tweet showed up as the first ever tweet by Jack Dorsey, "just setting up my twittr", instead of the tweet that was supposed to appear there.
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2023 16:46 (ten months ago) link
Do you pay the $8― Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 3 July 2023 bookmarkflaglink
Imagine paying to use twitter after all this...someone somewhere is doing it.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2023 16:46 (ten months ago) link
plenty of idiots are
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 3 July 2023 16:49 (ten months ago) link
not the most original observation but elon came from industries where you sell things not advertising and he really thinks you should be able to sell twitter but its just not true
― lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 16:58 (ten months ago) link
and its a well established industry truth, but he thinks hes smarter
there's definitely some logic to it if you think doing so will encourage people to sign up, which maybe makes sense if your social network is brand new (like it might make sense for Bluesky, if you wanna see what's going on there we want you to make an account) but Twitter is like 15 years old now, if someone doesn't have an account there by now they just aren't gonna make one. but they still might click on things or look at certain people's feeds (obviously it's still pretty good for say, NBA free agency news), and they will still see ads, so....I can only imagine this is happening because Twitter can't handle the traffic right now
several sites I visit have little widgets which show recent tweets by the author, all those seem to be broken right now, or purposely shut off. idk that seems kinda bad, like one of Twitter's strengths is that everywhere you go online will link to it somewhere, now you're just encouraging people to remove Twitter stuff entirely
― frogbs, Monday, 3 July 2023 17:02 (ten months ago) link
yeah hes killing it, been in a death spiral for a while prob
― lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 17:05 (ten months ago) link
I've barely been paying attention, but where are we currently on the 'dickhead rich guy showing his arse' to 'intentionally breaking something beautiful because too woke' spectrum?
― Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Monday, 3 July 2023 17:16 (ten months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0INKOEaMAAMbbQ?format=jpg&name=medium
― lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 17:47 (ten months ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, July 3, 2023 12:05 PM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
for sure...there's a reason the previous owners were so desperate to ensure the deal went through, from what I'd read Twitter's new user signups were not where they needed to be and social media networks by and large do not have a way to reverse things once the numbers start dropping. still what Elon is doing is just jaw dropping stuff, while I don't think he's *trying* to kill Twitter the fact that people are suspecting that may be the case is not exactly a good sign
― frogbs, Monday, 3 July 2023 17:53 (ten months ago) link
fwiw i dont think it was in a death spiral before elon bought it, which is not to say there werent strategic challenges but thats not the same thing as actually being in the process of dying
― lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 17:56 (ten months ago) link
I don't think he's *trying* to kill Twitter
Unclear tho if he's trying not to.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 3 July 2023 18:01 (ten months ago) link
it's his current plaything. he figures that because he's such a bold genius if he just keeps tinkering with it eventually he'll land on The Perfect Formula That Solves Everything
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 3 July 2023 18:10 (ten months ago) link
my personal theory about Elon Musk's psychology, motivation and core values is that he's a shit cunt.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 3 July 2023 18:12 (ten months ago) link
could be
― lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 18:13 (ten months ago) link
the articles I've read on the subject claimed that Twitter probably could tread water for a while but that the best case scenario is that it would slowly bleed out in the next 10-15 years. no idea how true that analysis is but yeah when I think of a major site going into a death spiral it's not last year's Twitter (which still seemed pretty alive), it's Twitter right now
― frogbs, Monday, 3 July 2023 18:14 (ten months ago) link
btw based on what I'm seeing there's a good chance the 600 tweet "rate limit" never existed and that the site has just been randomly melting down. some people are saying they can't trigger it and others are saying the site's just not working at all
― frogbs, Monday, 3 July 2023 18:23 (ten months ago) link
afaict twitter.com links are no longer on the first page of google results when you search for someone with a twitter account.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 3 July 2023 18:26 (ten months ago) link
google's extreme scraping spree ended at last
― mark s, Monday, 3 July 2023 19:03 (ten months ago) link
― frogbs, Monday, July 3, 2023 2:23 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
its pretty funny how elon tried to spin this as purposeful move but then he just used the name of the actual software thats doing it the rate limiter
― lag∞n, Monday, 3 July 2023 19:21 (ten months ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, July 3, 2023 12:47 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
lmao that this guy's business is giving out financial advice. I personally would not take financial advice from a guy who gives Elon $1400 a month for apparently no reason
― frogbs, Monday, 3 July 2023 20:17 (ten months ago) link
my personal theory about Elon Musk's psychology, motivation and core values is that he's a shit cunt meeeeeeeth.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 3 July 2023 20:28 (ten months ago) link
it's pretty amusing to see even the blue checks turning on him. so much of Twitter rn is just "I really fucking hate Elon Musk"
― frogbs, Monday, 3 July 2023 20:35 (ten months ago) link
If he was on meth he wouldn’t be so puffy
― Crabber B. Munson (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 3 July 2023 22:54 (ten months ago) link
btw based on what I'm seeing there's a good chance the 600 tweet "rate limit" never existed and that the site has just been randomly melting down
i think most likely is that they tried to implement the rate limit, but that broke everything and it doesn't work properly because the rate limiter was really not meant to be used like this - some former twitter engineers were talking about that.
― ufo, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 00:27 (ten months ago) link
Twitter vibe now is sorta “it puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose!”
― rick james, critical moralist (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 01:23 (ten months ago) link
i've been doing the blue check search ( -filter:verified filter:blue_verified ) to block accounts today. "try reloading" blank screen has appeared a few times, but it's still loading now and blue blocker says i've added 3000 tweets to the queue.
― formerly abanana (dat), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 01:39 (ten months ago) link
How are embedded tweets showing up on ILX if twitter no longer allows scraping/unlogged in view?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 01:44 (ten months ago) link
ESP projection
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 01:55 (ten months ago) link
i run three accounts - two for work, and my personal one and still haven't hit the limit on any of them. But I did have trouble following people the other day, from two separate accounts.
― Roz, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 04:20 (ten months ago) link
ILX has previously long continued to embed tweets after the tweet has been deleted, presumably System just made friends with the API
― serving bundt (sic), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 05:56 (ten months ago) link
Meta are apparently launching a twitter substitute called "Threads"* do not for a second trust meta to make a social media app which isn't horrible* don't want to be reminded of nuclear apocalypse every time I open the app
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 08:18 (ten months ago) link
System and Twitter, sitting in a treeInt-er-fa-c-i-n-g
― the best minds of my generation destroyed by woke (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 08:56 (ten months ago) link
So far all the shit Musk has thrown around with Twitter hasn't really affected my usage. Unfortunately the announcement of removing Tweetdeck for free has officially put the nail in the coffin. I guess I have to find something new now.
What a dickhead.
― Ste, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 09:12 (ten months ago) link
xpost pretty sure they decided on “threads” because it’s not an easy word to block on Twitter
― Roz, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 11:42 (ten months ago) link
Lol Camraderie
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 12:34 (ten months ago) link
― stet, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 12:51 (ten months ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 13:41 (ten months ago) link
from a locked account
https://i.imgur.com/xekEMXg.png
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 17:11 (ten months ago) link
Anyone on this thread have a spare bsky invite?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 18:36 (ten months ago) link
same
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 July 2023 18:37 (ten months ago) link
I'm going to predict that Threads will win the soshul meedia wars if anything will, because its a known entitiy, and anyone with an instagram login can start using it right away, so plain old laziness/convenience will win out like it always does.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 06:55 (ten months ago) link
for some reason* it's the winding up of @_primes_ that hits home
*(reason = me being weird, but it was just such a lovely pointless rigorous simplicity of an account: all the prime numbers in order, now we will never know what the biggest one is)
― mark s, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 08:48 (ten months ago) link
did they post an illegal prime number yet?
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 08:52 (ten months ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number#Illegal_primes
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 08:53 (ten months ago) link
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, July 5, 2023 2:55 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
lets see what they come up with, my guess its gonna be bad in some begging ass facebook way, like too aimed at "monetization for creators" or something, twitter isnt like the other social apps its for true posters its gotta promote real sicko behavior, which is in tension with the things competent companies want quality conversation, advertiser friendly content, profitability
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 12:00 (ten months ago) link
bluesky winning the vibe war so far
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 12:18 (ten months ago) link
threads not yet launching in the EU ftb "regulatory concerns" (data protection)
― mark s, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 12:20 (ten months ago) link
yeah apparently they want to bring all the instargram data over
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 12:21 (ten months ago) link