Twitter C/D

didn't quite work, but thx!!

― rick james, critical moralist (Hunt3r), Thursday, July 13, 2023 12:28 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Someone snagged it! 😂

dbvisel!

THERE ARE THIEVES ON ILX

these are worthy causes and real issues that should be addressed in a "global town square" platform. but this seems to be going down the same path as the fediverse where a majority of "the conversation" ends up being #fediblock bike-shedding instead of like people hanging out with people. i don't think the global town square is something anyone other than advertisers want and we're just drawn to it through various dark-patterns. tbh i think small unfederated-by-default communities of like-minded folks is the only healthy twitter-style social media

Ok that is p lol, i feel bad! My ilx linked email should work also, not sure how ilx dm emails are done tho either. Thx again!

This ep inspired me to go sorta actually almost surf on my mastodon tho

and it was reasonably fun tbh, first time i’ve been able to say that other times have been a bit too much drag

these are worthy causes and real issues that should be addressed in a "global town square" platform. but this seems to be going down the same path as the fediverse where a majority of "the conversation" ends up being #fediblock bike-shedding instead of like people hanging out with people. i don't think the global town square is something anyone other than advertisers want and we're just drawn to it through various dark-patterns. tbh i think small unfederated-by-default communities of like-minded folks is the only healthy twitter-style social media

― butch wig (diamonddave85), Thursday, July 13, 2023 1:04 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

OTM and I think issues like blackness and queerness are ideal but you’re absolutely right that it is naturally reduced to bike-shedding (especially in an environment where status is so valued). This has, however, been a nice reminder to appreciate spaces like ILX and Messages.app (and the proliferation of “Group Text”).

we should be using the global town square to encourage people to take up biking, not to shed them >:(

i was for whatever reason thinking of the term bikeshedding then i open this thread and boom there it is haha plate plate of shrimp

Plate…or shrimp.

Can someone plz enlighten me about the meaning of bike-shedding?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality

Not enlightening.

Guess bike-shedding is just ostracizing the bigots without actually getting rid of bigoted content?

bikeshedding is spending time on the inconsequential parts of a problem because theyre easier, eg building a nuclear power plant but mostly worrying what color to paint the bike shed

i don't think the global town square is something anyone other than advertisers want

i think this only a minor exaggeration, but not enough people are willing to subject themselves to a true global town square with humility and courage. but enough about me.

i have allowed my love of cycling to nearly destroy me more than once, but had never heard bike-shedding, good to know.

think the term is mostly used in computer programming

xp "...only a minor exaggeration, because not enough people ..."

more clarity-- i don't mean you should always to do it, i don't mean go to town squares who wanna genocide you, obv.

Guess bike-shedding is just ostracizing the bigots without actually getting rid of bigoted content?

i was going to have an aside in my original message saying that i don't necessarily think bike-shedding is the most appropriate term but a good shorthand. that's because i DON'T consider these issues and conversations trivial or inconsequential. i think a higher level way to describe what i was going for would be "the meta-conversation about the platform"

or "the meta-conversation about the platform at the expense of the conversation the platform is intended to enable"

the meta conversation about the platform is a funny constant in online places because the owners of the platform do need users to make good posts thats what makes the platform good, so posters while having no official say do actually have power, the meta conversation posts are not good posts so they function as a threat to the platform encouraging admin to acquiesce

my praxis? bad skeets to bring the bosses to their knees

yeah it's that users vs customers right? "i own this community" "no u don't, we're...the community" "i made this community, you are in my company houses and stores" "byyyyyee"

its the perfect form of collective action you get to 1. make bad posts 2. win

ive been training my whole life for this

also the poster was somewhat jack-adjacent

― mark s, Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:27 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

can you elaborate on this?

bsky's problem seems to be that the users are leftist shitposters and black twitter refugees, and the owners/mods are TPOT/foocamp libertarian cranks. not a good match.

jack was apparently following them (under a previous and not-yet-offensive screen name), or so i understood

Sorry vibecamp. Foocamp is for nerds. Vibecamp is for poly libertarian cranks.

I thought bike shedding from context was discovering a flaw in your bike and flinging it onto the pavement, never to use it again.

Happy to see on reading what it actually is that I wasn't even close

I'm gonna start incorporating bike-shedding into my therapy speak

I shred mics and you shed bikes

I wreck mics like my ass wrecks bikes

(this thread is owning with off topic banter and i am grateful)(i am also stealing that line).

It won’t end.

https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/pull/1319

They hate the French (re: retard):

@ferranrego You're completely off base. It has nothing to do with what language you are allowed to use. It's about creating a safe community. Again, as others here have said, whether or not there's another use of the word, it's not commonly used. In English, that word is most commonly used as a pejorative that is abelist and offensive. As Shane commented, I'll ask the same. Why is THIS the hill you choose to die on knowing it is, in fact, a commonly used slur?

I am fascinated by the Unicode usage in some of these posts:

I just don't believe that this is a serious argument @ferranrego

You're weaponising the idea of cultural / linguistic supremacy but you're also totally cool with the term「 blacklist 」even though someone above pointed out that it's problematic which makes me think that you're kinda full of it

Yeah it's true 「 negro 」 means 「 black 」 and 「 retardo 」 means 「 delay 」 but [ as far as I know ] 「 Black 」 isn't a slur in any language - and if it was then we could disallow it.

「 shabby 」 sounds like「 傻屄 (shǎ bī) 」 in Chinese [ meaning: stupid c- ]

It's not「 cultural supremacy 」by any reasonable definition to say that we can also disallow that and other words that may be racial and ableist slurs in other languages too.

in the logs diffing your slurs

oh my fucking lord. there are so many levels to this now

got tired of reading this thread to hear about Bluesky:
Bluesky an' clear: the social media app that will definitely last forever

Verified users only make money off each other? What an amazing MLM this is!!!! pic.twitter.com/v3jSwSzDKQ

— AMANDA TRAP HOUSE (@noturtlesoup17) July 14, 2023

More proof that Blue Checks have zero reading comprehension

As Luke Combs's hit cover of Tracy Chapman's "Fast Car" dominates the country charts, it’s bringing up some complicated emotions in fans & singers who know that Chapman, as a queer Black woman, would have an almost zero chance at that achievement herself: https://t.co/7pCIMW5F0N

— Emily Yahr (@EmilyYahr) July 13, 2023

smug about it too

ugh this is why it's a good thing I don't look at Twitter anymore, I'm so annoyed by those replies!!

these trending topics have nothing to do with each other, yet Twitter has grouped them together for some reason pic.twitter.com/hfD0jOwDUO

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) July 15, 2023

these trending topics have nothing to do with each other, yet Twitter has grouped them together for some reason pic.twitter.com/hfD0jOwDUO

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) July 15, 2023

The Tracy Chapman post is incredibly weird, I'm sorry.

"What if Tracy Chapman, a queer Black woman, had made country music instead of folk-pop? And also instead of writing a Top 10 pop hit, she wrote a country song? And *also* instead of Elektra successfully marketing a pop song across radio and MTV, they instead marketed a hypothetical country song to the narrow world of country stations. Also, for the purposes of this argument, it might be 2023 instead of 1988"

It's a huge leap into the imaginary that sidesteps how the racist, sexist, homophobic machinations of the music industry actually work. And I'm sorry if blue-check dullards have trouble following this logic to comment intelligently.

As T.I. and Rihanna's hit interpolation of "the Numa Numa song" dominates the hip-hop charts, it’s bringing up some complicated emotions in fans & singers who know that O-Zone, an all-white Moldovan eurodance trio, would have an almost zero chance at that achievement themselves.

Like, the music industry has like a billion concrete examples of being racist and/or sexist and/or homophobic, you don't have to imagine a scenario

are they phasing out twitter threads? when i see a tweet that's part of a thread, there's no indication it's part of a thread, and half the time when i click on a tweet that clearly is part of the thread it doesn't load the rest of the thread just the one tweet in isolation

Musk's war on Threads continues

The book I just read about Vince McMahon affirms that some assholes thrive on being the heel.