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i don't think the global town square is something anyone other than advertisers want

i think this only a minor exaggeration, but not enough people are willing to subject themselves to a true global town square with humility and courage. but enough about me.

i have allowed my love of cycling to nearly destroy me more than once, but had never heard bike-shedding, good to know.

rick james, critical moralist (Hunt3r), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:57 (nine months ago) link

think the term is mostly used in computer programming

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:58 (nine months ago) link

xp "...only a minor exaggeration, because not enough people ..."

more clarity-- i don't mean you should always to do it, i don't mean go to town squares who wanna genocide you, obv.

rick james, critical moralist (Hunt3r), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:00 (nine months ago) link

Guess bike-shedding is just ostracizing the bigots without actually getting rid of bigoted content?

i was going to have an aside in my original message saying that i don't necessarily think bike-shedding is the most appropriate term but a good shorthand. that's because i DON'T consider these issues and conversations trivial or inconsequential. i think a higher level way to describe what i was going for would be "the meta-conversation about the platform"

butch wig (diamonddave85), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:01 (nine months ago) link

or "the meta-conversation about the platform at the expense of the conversation the platform is intended to enable"

butch wig (diamonddave85), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:04 (nine months ago) link

the meta conversation about the platform is a funny constant in online places because the owners of the platform do need users to make good posts thats what makes the platform good, so posters while having no official say do actually have power, the meta conversation posts are not good posts so they function as a threat to the platform encouraging admin to acquiesce

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:08 (nine months ago) link

my praxis? bad skeets to bring the bosses to their knees

mark s, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:09 (nine months ago) link

yeah it's that users vs customers right? "i own this community" "no u don't, we're...the community" "i made this community, you are in my company houses and stores" "byyyyyee"

rick james, critical moralist (Hunt3r), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:10 (nine months ago) link

its the perfect form of collective action you get to 1. make bad posts 2. win

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:10 (nine months ago) link

ive been training my whole life for this

mark s, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:12 (nine months ago) link

also the poster was somewhat jack-adjacent

― mark s, Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:27 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

can you elaborate on this?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:38 (nine months ago) link

bsky's problem seems to be that the users are leftist shitposters and black twitter refugees, and the owners/mods are TPOT/foocamp libertarian cranks. not a good match.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:39 (nine months ago) link

jack was apparently following them (under a previous and not-yet-offensive screen name), or so i understood

mark s, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:42 (nine months ago) link

Sorry vibecamp. Foocamp is for nerds. Vibecamp is for poly libertarian cranks.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:49 (nine months ago) link

I thought bike shedding from context was discovering a flaw in your bike and flinging it onto the pavement, never to use it again.

Happy to see on reading what it actually is that I wasn't even close

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:58 (nine months ago) link

I'm gonna start incorporating bike-shedding into my therapy speak

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:21 (nine months ago) link

I shred mics and you shed bikes

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:22 (nine months ago) link

I wreck mics like my ass wrecks bikes

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:23 (nine months ago) link

(this thread is owning with off topic banter and i am grateful)(i am also stealing that line).

rick james, critical moralist (Hunt3r), Thursday, 13 July 2023 21:24 (nine months ago) link

It won’t end.

https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/pull/1319

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 14 July 2023 00:07 (nine months ago) link

They hate the French (re: retard):

@ferranrego You're completely off base. It has nothing to do with what language you are allowed to use. It's about creating a safe community. Again, as others here have said, whether or not there's another use of the word, it's not commonly used. In English, that word is most commonly used as a pejorative that is abelist and offensive. As Shane commented, I'll ask the same. Why is THIS the hill you choose to die on knowing it is, in fact, a commonly used slur?

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 14 July 2023 00:08 (nine months ago) link

I am fascinated by the Unicode usage in some of these posts:

I just don't believe that this is a serious argument @ferranrego

You're weaponising the idea of cultural / linguistic supremacy but you're also totally cool with the term「 blacklist 」even though someone above pointed out that it's problematic which makes me think that you're kinda full of it

Yeah it's true 「 negro 」 means 「 black 」 and 「 retardo 」 means 「 delay 」 but [ as far as I know ] 「 Black 」 isn't a slur in any language - and if it was then we could disallow it.

「 shabby 」 sounds like「 傻屄 (shǎ bī) 」 in Chinese [ meaning: stupid c- ]

It's not「 cultural supremacy 」by any reasonable definition to say that we can also disallow that and other words that may be racial and ableist slurs in other languages too.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 14 July 2023 00:14 (nine months ago) link

in the logs diffing your slurs

lag∞n, Friday, 14 July 2023 00:15 (nine months ago) link

oh my fucking lord. there are so many levels to this now

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 July 2023 00:35 (nine months ago) link

got tired of reading this thread to hear about Bluesky:
Bluesky an' clear: the social media app that will definitely last forever

rob, Friday, 14 July 2023 13:54 (nine months ago) link

Verified users only make money off each other? What an amazing MLM this is!!!! pic.twitter.com/v3jSwSzDKQ

— AMANDA TRAP HOUSE (@noturtlesoup17) July 14, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 14 July 2023 15:43 (nine months ago) link

More proof that Blue Checks have zero reading comprehension

As Luke Combs's hit cover of Tracy Chapman's "Fast Car" dominates the country charts, it’s bringing up some complicated emotions in fans & singers who know that Chapman, as a queer Black woman, would have an almost zero chance at that achievement herself: https://t.co/7pCIMW5F0N

— Emily Yahr (@EmilyYahr) July 13, 2023

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Saturday, 15 July 2023 14:25 (nine months ago) link

smug about it too

lag∞n, Saturday, 15 July 2023 15:33 (nine months ago) link

ugh this is why it's a good thing I don't look at Twitter anymore, I'm so annoyed by those replies!!

jaymc, Saturday, 15 July 2023 18:33 (nine months ago) link

these trending topics have nothing to do with each other, yet Twitter has grouped them together for some reason pic.twitter.com/hfD0jOwDUO

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) July 15, 2023

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Saturday, 15 July 2023 18:37 (nine months ago) link

these trending topics have nothing to do with each other, yet Twitter has grouped them together for some reason pic.twitter.com/hfD0jOwDUO

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) July 15, 2023

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Saturday, 15 July 2023 18:37 (nine months ago) link

The Tracy Chapman post is incredibly weird, I'm sorry.

"What if Tracy Chapman, a queer Black woman, had made country music instead of folk-pop? And also instead of writing a Top 10 pop hit, she wrote a country song? And *also* instead of Elektra successfully marketing a pop song across radio and MTV, they instead marketed a hypothetical country song to the narrow world of country stations. Also, for the purposes of this argument, it might be 2023 instead of 1988"

It's a huge leap into the imaginary that sidesteps how the racist, sexist, homophobic machinations of the music industry actually work. And I'm sorry if blue-check dullards have trouble following this logic to comment intelligently.

sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 July 2023 22:06 (nine months ago) link

As T.I. and Rihanna's hit interpolation of "the Numa Numa song" dominates the hip-hop charts, it’s bringing up some complicated emotions in fans & singers who know that O-Zone, an all-white Moldovan eurodance trio, would have an almost zero chance at that achievement themselves.

sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 July 2023 22:13 (nine months ago) link

Like, the music industry has like a billion concrete examples of being racist and/or sexist and/or homophobic, you don't have to imagine a scenario

sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 July 2023 22:15 (nine months ago) link

are they phasing out twitter threads? when i see a tweet that's part of a thread, there's no indication it's part of a thread, and half the time when i click on a tweet that clearly is part of the thread it doesn't load the rest of the thread just the one tweet in isolation

flopson, Sunday, 16 July 2023 09:27 (nine months ago) link

Musk's war on Threads continues

Alba, Sunday, 16 July 2023 12:31 (nine months ago) link

The book I just read about Vince McMahon affirms that some assholes thrive on being the heel.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 July 2023 13:30 (nine months ago) link

a friend of mine used to work for WWE, they have a gym there. in his first week some guy got fired because he was new C didn't understand that when the gym starts blasting "hell's bells" by ac/dc that's the sign that Vince is coming to work out and you should clear out. he stayed and ended getting fired because Vince was annoyed he was making too much noise lifting weights.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 16 July 2023 17:14 (nine months ago) link

jfc

lag∞n, Sunday, 16 July 2023 17:18 (nine months ago) link

saved by the dumbbell

rick james, critical moralist (Hunt3r), Sunday, 16 July 2023 17:22 (nine months ago) link

lol

I knew a guy who worked for UFC and Dana White is also a piece of work, to put it lightly

mh, Sunday, 16 July 2023 18:27 (nine months ago) link

In the book it said that Vince would go lift at home during every commercial break when watching TV with friends, returning from each break more sweaty and pumped and with more skin exposed.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 July 2023 23:27 (nine months ago) link

When you're spending six figures a year on designer steroids and growth hormone, might as well get your money's worth.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 16 July 2023 23:55 (nine months ago) link

tbf ppl who are loud about lifting are deeply annoying

that said, i'll bet vince was the fuckin loudest

mookieproof, Monday, 17 July 2023 00:50 (nine months ago) link

What’s the book Josh?

Xpost - I think in this case "too loud" means "existing as a human being"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 July 2023 20:14 (nine months ago) link

Like, the music industry has like a billion concrete examples of being racist and/or sexist and/or homophobic, you don't have to imagine a scenario

― sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, July 15, 2023 6:15 PM (two days ago)

I just want to say that the actual article in question is, no surprise, a lot sharper than the tweet summary: https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2023/07/13/tracy-chapman-luke-combs-fast-car-cover/

rob, Monday, 17 July 2023 20:38 (nine months ago) link

Pretty good piece.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 July 2023 20:48 (nine months ago) link

Xpost The McMahon book is called "Ringmaster." Pretty solid summation of his life and ethos. Spoiler alert: he is pretty much a piece of shit and part and parcel with Trump in more ways than many may know.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 July 2023 21:37 (nine months ago) link

wasn't his wife in the trump administration?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 July 2023 21:46 (nine months ago) link


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