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My current employer doesn't even have an office. When I started talking to them about work, I kept offering to come in if necessary. They kept saying "no, no need," until finally they told me they don't have an office.

It's possible that at some point this will bite me in the butt but for now I am just going to roll with it.

Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 21:37 (nine months ago) link

Only going in 1 day a week is taking a bit of a toll tbh. Every day feels very samey. Loops. Thank god I have a dog that makes me get off my ass but even then I sort of just take him to the same places. I think 2 days feels just about right. When I started going back 1 day I was like, holy shit this commute is long, how did I ever do this. But I think it's worth it to do a couple of times a week now tbh. That said I am lucky that my office is in the centre of a big bustling metropolis so I can get cool lunches, take care of errands, see people after work for a drink etc. If I had to drive out to some industrial park I would likely be less keen.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 22:02 (nine months ago) link

two days is very nice, depending on commute ofc

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 22:37 (nine months ago) link

I've been back in the office full time since Nov '21, so I have very little sympathy for anyone complaining about having to go in periodically.

I never napped at home but now I'm doing regular work naps on the floor of my office (well, on the mat I use for a standing desk).

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 12:52 (nine months ago) link

I've been wfh since 2005, but in the past it was always with other remote teams, so everyone w'ed fh and we all chatted shit on IM or on our regular calls or whatever. Nowadays I'm more likely to be the only person on the project who's w'ing fh, and that is lonelier. When I had Twitter it was fine, but now I don't have that anymore. But at least I still have you guys, right? RIGHT?

trishyb, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:50 (nine months ago) link

WFH getting slowly stripped away does suck, but probably worth bearing in mind that companies are likely paying a lot for office space and are almost certainly on long-ish leases. Will be interesting to see what happens as these leases gradually run out. Can see a lot of them not getting renewed.

Position Position, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 15:54 (nine months ago) link

companies are likely paying a lot for office space and are almost certainly on long-ish leases. Will be interesting to see what happens as these leases gradually run out. Can see a lot of them not getting renewed.

you can look at downtown San Francisco already for that apparently ...

sarahell, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 16:04 (nine months ago) link

There's a big article about empty corporate real estate in Manhattan out this week that I found fascinating.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 16:12 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, my employer moved to a smaller office space this year. They tried to "highly encourage" most people to go back in a few times a week a couple months ago. Hardly anyone budged. It was so poorly planned because they also wanted everyone to continue with their remote space and desks are still by reservation only. The thing is, there's nowhere near enough space for most people in the new office space. Also, having to accommodate onsite work plus juggle a remote work space is so unrealistic and adds so much complexity.

I highly doubt people are going to go back in, unless they force people back, which is not unlikely because the CEO is this old dude who is disconnected from reality.

Punster McPunisher, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 20:49 (nine months ago) link

I found out about a month ago that my employer got rid of our office which is the only one in the state. Now I just have to hope they don't get bought out for the billionth time by some asshole who wants butts in seats.

I work in tech and never ever understood why we need to be in the office. All of our meetings are conference calls whether it's with coworkers across the country or 10 people sitting just rows away from you. I would go months without speaking to anyone in person.

But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 21:07 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, I work in tech, as well. I have a feeling if people are forced back in, all devs will remain remote, except leadership. Most of my team works across the country, so group coding, meetings, and trainings all happen on Teams and nobody ever bothers turning on their camera. It's pretty chill and it works for most of us, so I don't see that changing

Punster McPunisher, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 21:13 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, we don't do video on teams either but I suspect it's mostly because our computers can't handle the multiple video streams and the company is very opposed to replacing computers no matter how decrepit they may be. I request a new one at least three times a year because Outlook seizes up often so I can't join meetings through the calendar and it takes a good 10 minutes to send an email.

We were, at one point, encouraged to have our photo displayed in Teams but now maybe half of people do and maybe half of those are of tigers or flowers or something. One guy has a pic of him with a lifesize cut out of Chevy Chase. Maybe I should get myself that Danny Devito cut out.

But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 21:26 (nine months ago) link

Another gigantic plus to WFH for me right now is that this is the last summer my kids will be spending their summer at home. Our oldest will be off driving next year, so I assume barely home, then off to college the year after when the younger one starts driving.

Even though they spend most of their time playing video games or chatting with friends, I'm so grateful I get to spend this last golden summer in the same house as them.

15 minutes chatting in the kitchen, 30 minutes sitting next to me while I host a meeting, what feels like an eternity of bugging me to order pizza, an hour or two watching a series or movie. It's all so perfect and blissful to me.

But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 21:35 (nine months ago) link

i love that post, ss

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 23:12 (nine months ago) link

tabes otm, lovely post sunny <3

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 July 2023 00:34 (nine months ago) link

wow, I remember when beeps was born <3

jaymc, Thursday, 20 July 2023 01:01 (nine months ago) link

Feels like maybe 8 years ago :(

But who are we doing it versus? (sunny successor), Thursday, 20 July 2023 14:00 (nine months ago) link

The work trip I was very much not looking forward to has been moved from August 7-9 to September 27-29, which actually works a lot better for me; I've got stuff going on here right now that will be long since resolved by then. Of course, now it's going to coincide with some kind of offsite team-building exercise (trust falls, rounds of shots), which, ugh. (I'm pretty sure there won't actually be rounds of shots as my big boss is a Mormon.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 26 July 2023 03:03 (nine months ago) link

virgin jello shots

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Wednesday, 26 July 2023 03:05 (nine months ago) link

four weeks pass...

back in the office for the first time since initial covid shutdown (to meet a mate for lunch who is leaving today)

having the whole floor to choose from i ended up sat 10ft from a woman who has a) conference called without headphones b) used speakerphone to talk to amazon

my mate hasn't turned up yet, he's only really coming to return his laptop

and i can't do much in the way of work because i appear to be on the guest wifi. i can see a lot of things, just not aws, which is where i need to be. still, now might be the time to download those system patches and those autechre live sets, save me having to do it over 3g.

koogs, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 12:13 (eight months ago) link

work coffee dreadful, the air conditioning was nice though

koogs, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:10 (eight months ago) link

farting on mute - the most dangerous game

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:51 (eight months ago) link

there's that meme of the french teacher that accidentally farted while recording audio questions for a French test and accidentally made it part of the question.

I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 August 2023 14:58 (eight months ago) link

chat je pete

sarahell, Friday, 1 September 2023 17:09 (eight months ago) link

Student emails me irate that they got a 0 on an assignment when they just added the class. It's remote and asynchronous, so I had no idea they had just joined. I email them to tell them I will change their grade. They have already dropped the class.

Good riddance.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 1 September 2023 17:58 (eight months ago) link

Geez, what an impatient clown.

Neanderthal, Friday, 1 September 2023 19:48 (eight months ago) link

virtual work has helped me not miss a ton of time during my dad's debacle, but it always seems a 'tale of two cities' when it comes to how I'm supported when out.

on the seasonal project I'm on now, not only did they step in and run everything almost without interruption, they were actually begging me to log off and be with my dad.

for ongoing issues on my core team, if I disappear, and tech things come up, they don't even bother to try and fix on their own and just figure they'll wait until I'm back. and these are things I've told them how to handle over and over again.

like one of them today asking me if 'we' did anything with the website issue he reported yesterday, and I'm like....did you see in the chat yesterday where I announced I was leaving for the day 7 minutes after you told us about it? You know the name of the contact, message them, you're here, I'm not!

i think sometimes with virtual work there's this thought of 'maybe he'll log back in later' which doesn't happen in an office environment. But no, I do not log in later when I log out for day.

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 15:45 (seven months ago) link

considering I've missed less time than anybody else on the team, it gets a bit frustrating. like for all intents and purposes I shouldn't have worked Friday at all but I tried to in order to give myself a distraction, and it failed.

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 15:46 (seven months ago) link

i wouldn't want to work in-person at my job again (hell, i don't want to work at all at my job these days), but doing this in-person intensive outpatient group has helped me. i feel like just need some sort of reason to leave the house regularly and be around a specific group of other people in a safe and healthy environment... my life has really been lacking structure and routine since we went remote and i'm continuing to struggle with it. i've tried doing regular co-working, but my friends keep losing their jobs and becoming homeless so it's difficult. :(

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:41 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

https://zoomescaper.com

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 19:17 (six months ago) link

i have to attend professional organization webinars every few weeks. i just join with no audio or video and do whatever. they always send me the certificate for credit afterwards. thanks guys!

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 19:38 (six months ago) link

I've now somewhat officially been told I'm probably never teaching classes again, now permanently supervising them. That is only making official what had already essentially be true for the last 1.5 - 2 years, but while I would have balked at this a year ago, I willingly accepted this offer today. (my job isn't changing, nor am I getting a raise, just I'm being pulled from the mix of instructors permanently)

It sucks, because I came over here because I genuinely liked teaching, but I'm realizing I'm suffering a form of PTSD from the last 3 years, that didn't really hit me in full force until dad died. Just talking to people (with the exception of close friends/family) feels like a chore now - it stresses me out.

so something that I used to flourish at, like training, now bums me out. it's not just work. when I sang a song at a fundraiser last month, my whole body went rigid and started shaking while singing, feeling abject terror with hundreds of eyes staring at me - despite having done theatre/singing for over 25 years.

perhaps this move will be good for me. which is why I ask why in the FUCK they gave me this class to teach immediately upon returning from bereavement. I got about 4 days to ease into it, but I was not in good shape to teach this class and frankly they should have fucking asked me first. I'm doing an ok job of bullshitting it but I sound like someone who is miserable and trying to fake it.

on the plus side, sounds like it's my last one, ever, so....I'll go out with a whimper.

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:26 (six months ago) link

I got observed during training yesterday and got (extremely undeserved) perfect marks and it felt like being an aging pop singer who can't hit any of the high notes anymore getting a cloying, insincere ovation. I mean I'll take it and hey, sometimes seniority helps when it comes to benefit of the doubt, but ...ugh.

sometimes i think working at home, which was a huge benefit before, is a hindrance now, given my current mental state. I live too far from the office to drive there regularly though (plus a waste of gas for little benefit).

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:32 (six months ago) link

always nice when mom goes to report dad's passing to Spectrum and they re-open our internet under a new account and promise us that they won't shut the old one down until we set up the new one but they shut it down anyway, towards the end of one of my training classes, so it takes me 45 minutes to restart it, and then ten minutes into the new connection, it goes down again....because mom for no apparent reason decided to change the Wifi password I'd just set 5 minutes ago.

sigh. this is the only downside to working from home.

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 October 2023 21:40 (six months ago) link

lolz - so today we had a virtual Halloween party that was actually a secret baby shower for one of our managers. it was actually a really nice event for her.

but then one of the hosts decided we were going to play Family Feud over MS Teams and it took like a half hour and everybody kept getting confused as to whose turn it was, how to buzz in, and the host took like 5 minutes to confirm whether answers were correct.

it was pretty cringey but inoffensively so.

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 17:09 (six months ago) link

i've gone from phoning it in to basically doing what Peter Berg's character did in Office Space. it doesn't feel great. I'm not that kind of employee. I'm finding it impossible to focus though. in or out of work.

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 21:47 (five months ago) link

I hear that man... I get done what's expected of me, but I don't go looking for anything extra

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 23:35 (five months ago) link

WFH sucks when its a 30degC day and I'm in my NON AIRCONDITIONED HOUSE. >:|

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 01:17 (five months ago) link

do they not have that in Australia generally or wtf

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 05:34 (five months ago) link

No, I just live in a crappy house.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 06:44 (five months ago) link

Oh, but apparently our housing is badly made, we just dont do proper insulation or double glazing, I hear a lot of complaints from like, canadians who come here and say theyve never been so cold?!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 06:45 (five months ago) link

Also houses in Australia do not generally have air conditioning, no

vashti funyuns (sic), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 08:04 (five months ago) link

well, that sucks!

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 13:43 (five months ago) link

What, plenty of people have aircon, what you mean. I regard it as outlier that I dont! (rental property with cheapass landlord), but in summer the whole street is humming with HVAC.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 November 2023 05:49 (five months ago) link

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ in my life I can only remember being inside one free-standing house in Australia that had built-in air conditioning

vashti funyuns (sic), Thursday, 9 November 2023 07:33 (five months ago) link

(and that was one I lived in for seven years, a former stablehouse that had been converted to flats, where if I turned on the AC in my room for 71 seconds on a 42°C (107℉) night, or played music on computer speakers, the tenant above would pound on the floor with a sledgehammer or s/t. my next-room neighbour eventually moved out when he made the ceiling cave in on her bed one night.)

vashti funyuns (sic), Thursday, 9 November 2023 07:40 (five months ago) link

a SLEDGEHAMMER o_0

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 10 November 2023 00:00 (five months ago) link

in order to get working air conditioning you must defeat AIRCON MAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xovc6DymOEE

what? no, you're thinking of air man. you cannot defeat air man.

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 10 November 2023 00:28 (five months ago) link

No A/C in Darwin? Alice Springs? seems like you would die

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 10 November 2023 00:38 (five months ago) link

Actually in a lot of those places you have slat windows and a lot of ceiling fans. Its too humid to bother with AC I suspect.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 10 November 2023 04:43 (five months ago) link


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