Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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That there's a part in Culture Club's "The War Song" where someone imitates Clare Torry singing "The Great Gig in the Sky".

lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 27 July 2023 09:21 (nine months ago) link

Ditto.

John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 July 2023 09:22 (nine months ago) link

xps weird to call the cajón, an afro-peruvian invention, a "slave box" and then close the video by saying, "for those whose masters insist on cajóns ... we will all continue to pray for your emancipation"

but yknow i'm predisposed to hate all youtubers, especially ones who try really hard to be funny

budo jeru, Thursday, 27 July 2023 19:07 (nine months ago) link

Xps I remember vague details from WH Auden's book about Iceland and how, during the 1930s, there were (something like) 'women of the wires', employees of the phone company who operated a vast signal board for the entire island's phone network and who would listen to all conversations. (Which leads to Cheever's 'The Enormous Radio' and on and on we go.)

(picnic, lightning) very very frightening (Chinaski), Thursday, 27 July 2023 20:49 (nine months ago) link

budo: Yeah I was not presenting that fellow as an admirable person. Rather, in that moment I was too tired to explain the complexities of my philosophy of how a multi-instrumentalist percussionist should best accompany acoustic musicians.

I do agree with him on precisely two things: (1) the Pearl Short Fuse snare is a delightful little drum, and (2) I don't want to play the cajón.

Personally I live in a world where someone asks me to play the cajón approximately once a week. My hands hurt and my back hurts and I don't think I sound good. For those gigs I prefer to play congas.

To those who like playing and/or listening to a cajón, rock on.

Some people call me Maurice Chevalier (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 27 July 2023 20:55 (nine months ago) link

haha -- no worries, and sorry for your pain

budo jeru, Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:56 (nine months ago) link

That apparently americans play the national anthem before rock gigs?! (re: Sinead/Sinatra beef). Is this really a thing because what is wrong with you people.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 28 July 2023 04:27 (nine months ago) link

i've never been to one where that was played beforehand

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 July 2023 04:31 (nine months ago) link

I remember a bit in the novel London Belongs To Me where a German spy reports back that the English seem very demoralized, "they hardly stand for the national anthem before cinema sessions anymore". Bring that back imo, I'd rather that than the fucking commercials.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 28 July 2023 09:37 (nine months ago) link

They used to play the anthem before movies at a theater I went to in high school, but it was on a Navy base.

nickn, Friday, 28 July 2023 16:13 (nine months ago) link

I was maybe in my 30s when I figured out that in a North American elevator, the star next to the level label meant that was the way out to the street or ground level.

Moritz von Oswald von Wolkenstein (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 28 July 2023 22:52 (nine months ago) link

americans play the national anthem before rock gigs?

I've never encountered this, it might only be at giant stadiums or something? But they still do it at sporting events which I think is fucking stupid

I do remember as a kid that they would play it late at night when TV stations concluded broadcasting at 2am or whatever it was.. but that doesn't happen anymore

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 July 2023 22:56 (nine months ago) link

I was maybe in my 30s when I figured out that in a North American elevator, the star next to the level label meant that was the way out to the street or ground level.

― Moritz von Oswald von Wolkenstein (Boring, Maryland), Friday, July 28, 2023 6:52 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Holy shit.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 28 July 2023 22:57 (nine months ago) link

Caer is the Welsh equivalent to cester/caster/chester. So Cardiff would be called Diffchester if it was in England.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 28 July 2023 23:27 (nine months ago) link

Well I never.

Tim, Friday, 28 July 2023 23:28 (nine months ago) link

wow!

budo jeru, Saturday, 29 July 2023 00:09 (nine months ago) link

i was worried that niall = neil

It is? Or at least it should be, because that's the Irish pronunciation, compare with Niamh for instance - need gyac or darraghmac to confirm though. Anyway it's how the Niall in Niall Ferguson is pronounced.

― John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 July 2023 06:40 (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

would always default niall to ny-al fwiw

if he was snippy about that id ask him where his fada was


Can belatedly confirm, only “Neils” Nialls I have encountered are Scottish. However! Tom D is right that it is closer to the original pronunciation to say Neil, think Ny-al is an anglicisation (much like “Kate-lin”).

a love song for connor wong (gyac), Saturday, 29 July 2023 13:16 (nine months ago) link

TIL: black bears in the San Gabriel and San Bernardino mountains around Los Angeles aren't native - they were captured in Yosemite in 1933 and then imported by a dumbass fish & game commissioner who owned a hotel, had a bear as a pet, and wanted to boost mountain tourism.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 30 July 2023 00:53 (nine months ago) link

So them and the Okies showed up at the same time.

pplains, Sunday, 30 July 2023 05:08 (nine months ago) link

hread title is unbelievably 100% OTM rn. I'm legit shocked. I mean, I learned all about the California grizzly bear in grade school (it was the Woodsy Owl era) and I still remember the date that the last one was killed: 1908 in Orange County. Still, "watch out for the black bears" was something I learned in early boy scouts (and dgaf after because I was far more a desert wanderer than a mountain one). Never once did any one say where they came from.

Again, another rich man's fucking folly blowback. It's all funny ha-ha when it's the peacocks and parrots, then uh-oh it's eucalyptus cause that shit likes to catch on fire. Now the bears? Rewilding is problematic, but it's shit like this that makes me a full-on Liet Kynes jihadist about native plants and ecology.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 30 July 2023 06:27 (nine months ago) link

TIL that most of the time (in the US) when you think you see a ladybug, it’s actually probably an Asian lady beetle.

The US govt introduced the ALB in the 70s to help agriculture, because they kill a lot of pests (the same pests that LBs feed on). But they’re stronger than LBs, they contain a parasitic fungus, and their larva are poisonous to LBs (who eat the larva). They also emit a chemical when they become defensive that possibly causes breathing problems in humans.

Due to the competition for resources, LBs became endangered.

And now we’re stuck with them. We can’t get rid of them because it would have hugely negative effects on agriculture.

just1n3, Sunday, 30 July 2023 10:22 (nine months ago) link

Root beer is sassafras flavored (mostly artificial these days).

Deflatormouse, Sunday, 30 July 2023 13:46 (nine months ago) link

xp should probably get some cane toads in to take care of the ALBs

mookieproof, Sunday, 30 July 2023 16:47 (nine months ago) link

what could go wrong?

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 30 July 2023 17:19 (nine months ago) link

not sure if sassafras is legal in the u.s., known carcognogen iirc

brimstead, Monday, 31 July 2023 00:23 (nine months ago) link

There's still root beer made from real sassafras with the carcinogen filtered out or something.

Creedence Clearwater Revival are from northern California?! What??

Deflatormouse, Monday, 31 July 2023 01:31 (nine months ago) link

Born on the Bayou of Berkeley

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 31 July 2023 01:37 (nine months ago) link

heckin bamboozled tbh

Deflatormouse, Monday, 31 July 2023 01:45 (nine months ago) link

The carcinogen is called safrole, iirc.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 31 July 2023 02:21 (nine months ago) link

There's still root beer made from real sassafras with the carcinogen filtered out or something.

Creedence Clearwater Revival are from northern California?! What??


What town did you think “Lodi” was referring to?

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 31 July 2023 16:31 (nine months ago) link

Seems like if you were really from NoCal seeking your fame and fortune, you'd make it to at least Modesto. Getting stuck in Lodi more like a rookie mistake made by someone from Acadiana.

pplains, Monday, 31 July 2023 16:52 (nine months ago) link

What town did you think “Lodi” was referring to?

New Jersey, of course!

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 31 July 2023 16:59 (nine months ago) link

Into the 90s one could purchase Pappy's sassafras syrup and make tea with it (or, if you were clever, a variant of root beer). Sarsparilla is a variant, properly made with a different plant but very similar in flavor.

Sassfras is of course a ubiquitous wild plant in much of the US; I have some in my yard. I could find bunches more in any local woods (and have done). Look for the leaves that look like mittens. If you want to use the roots you have to pull the saplings pretty early - knee-high or so. It is a lovely smell and a lovely flavor and I will never not love it. But maybe you shouldn't, as cancer is kind of a bummer.

Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 31 July 2023 17:04 (nine months ago) link

They used to sell sasparilla on Walthamstow high street when I was young. I think as a cordial you diluted.
I was wondering if Vimto was an attempt to mimic the flavour using berry ingredients more local to the UK.

Stevo, Monday, 31 July 2023 17:08 (nine months ago) link

They used to sell sasparilla on Walthamstow,
high street when I was young.

Rejected CCR lyrics.

pplains, Monday, 31 July 2023 17:12 (nine months ago) link

is it possible to choogle a sasparilla? asking for a friend

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 31 July 2023 17:17 (nine months ago) link

True story: I am an American human. In approximately 1995 I stumbled into a pub in Cambridge (the one in England) and asked for bourbon and ginger ale. It was utterly delicious. The spiciest ginger ale I'd had up to that point (including the "Jamaican-style" ginger ale one can get here).

I asked what kind it was, and was shown the bottle. It said, "American-style ginger ale." Yet another example of things on the other side of the ocean being a funhouse mirror.

Life is like a box of chocolates.

Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 31 July 2023 17:22 (nine months ago) link

What town did you think “Lodi” was referring to?

New Jersey, of course!

― but also fuck you (unperson)

LOL, that's the only Lodi I know of. I always thought of it as like the Springfield of the Simpsons.

Does sarsaparilla taste like root beer? Been wondering the last couple of days.

Deflatormouse, Monday, 31 July 2023 17:26 (nine months ago) link

LODI

Lodi is based on Fogerty's days as a minor league baseball player and he dreaded playing out there.

― Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

SMalkmus wrote a song about his rival high school in Lodi (Linden Lions) and Yanks slugger Aaron Judge is from said highschool.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 31 July 2023 17:56 (nine months ago) link

so Fogerty told u that story at a show? amazing.

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, 31 July 2023 18:00 (nine months ago) link

Ok, learning point here…always assumed Lodi was his shorthand way of saying Low Dive i.e. a scummy venue. Never knew it was a place in California until now.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 31 July 2023 18:12 (nine months ago) link

I prefer my misinterpretation.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 31 July 2023 18:12 (nine months ago) link

lol, also amazing

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, 31 July 2023 18:17 (nine months ago) link

Creedence Clearwater Revival are from northern California?! What??

I know, right? If you didn't know, you'd guess . . . almost anywhere else.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 31 July 2023 18:20 (nine months ago) link

Weirdly, I knew they were from California. Lumped in with The Band as Northerners who could evoke the South even better than Southerners.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 31 July 2023 18:27 (nine months ago) link

keep on toinin

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 31 July 2023 18:28 (nine months ago) link

I've always known they were from California, I must have read it somewhere when I was young.

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Monday, 31 July 2023 18:37 (nine months ago) link

... sleevenotes on first album perhaps?

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Monday, 31 July 2023 18:38 (nine months ago) link

They were from Choogleston

Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 31 July 2023 18:40 (nine months ago) link

... from what I can make out from images of the first album, the sleevenotes are all about CCR being part of the San Francisco music scene.

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Monday, 31 July 2023 18:44 (nine months ago) link


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