Things you were shockingly old when you learned

I was quite surprised when I went to live in Italy (25 years ago) that there was no such thing as 'bolognaise/ese'.

― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Tuesday, August 1, 2023 9:43 AM

In Bologna they just call it spaghetti.

What do they call bologna? Lunch meat?

I guess not all bologna has a first name.

https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/video-jon-stewart-gives-pepper-spray-cop-anthony-bologna-his-own-tv-show

Baloney

Spray Bol

That "mod cons" doesn't mean indoor flush toilet!

I guess not all bologna has a first name.

Post of the day.

I always thought spag bol was a Ben Elton thing, I remember him saying it in a routine on that Ch4 Saturday Live thing in the mid 80s

there are pockets of Australia where the abbreviation has degenerated to "spag bog"

Ha I thought it was just me saying spag bog because I like saying dumb things. But yeah I feel like Aussies say Spag Bol a lot and can get away with it more cos its... like, what we do.

What do they call bologna? Lunch meat?
By the way why is that pronounced "baloney"? I thought they were 2 different words until reasonably recently.
Here, you've got yer mortadella, of course. but theres also devon, luncheon, lunchmeat. Depends where u live. "Fritz", in Adelaide apparently which I have just now learned upon reading the wiki about it.

it was Spag Bog in our house. Spag Bol will forever sound posh to me.

Spag bol drives me nuts. Also saw something a few months ago where the comments revealed that a high percentage of people thought it was spag bowl and didn't know it was bolognaise.

it was Spag Bog in our house. Spag Bol will forever sound posh to me.

oooh putting on airs saying "spag bol" like he's a real Italian

oh so someone suddenly thinks they are Antonio Carluccio!

one thing I just learned was about the Andrea Doria/Stockholm collision. When the icebreaker went full steam into the starboard side of the AD obv all the passengers in that impact section of the hull didn't make it. Apart a young girl who was actually found dazed and with a broken arm amongst the crumpled wreckage of the Stockholm bow. They were like who is this? she's not on our passenger manifest ... oh!

wikipedia says she was catapulted from her bed onto the other ship -- and also that her dad, a famous radio broadcaster, had already delivered a story on the collision without letting his audience that he was himself still awaiting new of his daughter, at that time missing among the survivors (because she was now on the other ship)

wasn't her mother killed in the collision? I'm not sure if I misheard that bit. But ships can falter but the airwaves can't!

Trayce, wait till you hear about New Haven pizza being pronounced "ah-beetz," or the various dialect-specific things like mozzarella being pronounced "mots-a-dell."

Language weirds language

her mother was injured, stepfather and half-sister were killed, fuller story here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Morgan

my first thought was that her dad was a callous mofo, but on the other hand him not making the story all about himself could also be seen quite admirable.

when my uncle was badly injured in a motorcycle crash involving another motorcycle and a car. The other motorcyclist had his 14 yr old son riding pillion and he died. My uncle was in the same ward as him and said he was repeatedly boasting about how fast he was going. Now that's callous.

anyway youtube algorithm is serving up endless maritime disaster vids at the moment, some real nightmare fuel but also addictive.

(xp) Some kind of tortured metaphor in there for the approach to climate change being followed by the two main political parties in the UK.

Ugh

holy shit

I'd wish a grisly end to all them knaves in UK parliament. But perhaps nothing as bad as the Iranian divers who were still in the decompression chamber when their ship sank and then had to slowly choke out in there for days on the sea bed.

that urge to be a deep-sea diver really is something, like: good day at work today - I didn't almost die in some horrible and grisly fashion 300ft down.

heights scare me way more, construction workers in bucket lifts 60 stories high, or climbing up scaffolds (shudder), that looks absolutely terrifying.

the sea is a sort of a mix of height and depth but with added pressure, the idea of looking down and seeing 100's of ft of depth tapering into darkness - that would terrify me.

also it's full of hideous creatures with bulbs on their head and such

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81d4l9cCvdL._RI_SX480_FMwebp_.jpg

there are some hideous creatures down there alright!

my first thought was that her dad was a callous mofo, but on the other hand him not making the story all about himself could also be seen quite admirable.

some real Howard Hawks shit imo, a man must be a professional and a professional gets his job done in a stoic manner no matter what the pain

there wasn't much Howard Hawks spirit from the ship's crew, many of them donned passenger life jackets and were amongst the first ones to get the fuck out of there!

the sea is a sort of a mix of height and depth but with added pressure, the idea of looking down and seeing 100's of ft of depth tapering into darkness - that would terrify me.

you're right, of course. i have these moments doing long distance open water swims by myself where i feel so unthreatened and in my element and suddenly it hits me, like "you are a human, you belong on the land you stupid fuck, the shore looks really far away, why aren't you terrified? this is reckless behavior." but it passes after a few minutes lol

been diving and enjoyed it but i'm too scared to climb a fire escape, it is totally irrational.

I've worked at heights when I was youngish - wouldn't be able to do it now. Got a much clearer idea of what The End looks like and how easy it is to reach it these days.

Personally I only want thrills that I am in control of.

My beloved wife likes roller-coasters and amusement park rides and wants to do escape rooms and such. I confess that I just don't get it.

Like, I will do pretty demanding hikes and climbs and caves and bike rides and cross-country skiing. Because the speed and thrills come from ME. If it demands skill, it demands MY skill.

But a waterslide? That's plastic plus gravity. Skydiving? Gravity plus nylon.

By the way why is that pronounced "baloney"?

I am guessing it's just a mangling of the Italian pronunciation, but I honestly don't know. This might be something I learn today.

Can we do an ILX fundraising drive to build our own submarine?

Thinking 1k should be enough.

We all live in a neandosubmarine

won't be living in it for long if I'm the captain

Captain Nemanderthal

Or maybe: 77 Leagues Under the Sea

DJP Boot

Nemo Raggett

C or Das Boot

The Hunt for Raggettober

just give me a cardboard bix and a sharpie

POXtober

i once made a gravity bong out of a bathtub and an office water cooler jug, it felt like a scuba mission. investigative and exploratory.

i have seen workers on scaffolds doing insane daredevil acrobatics these last couple of years, it's shocking and horrifying. honestly playing baseball on a scaffold would be way safer.

I'm very confused about the baloney/bologna thing upthread. I've got no idea what it actually is, it's just a word I heard in American cartoons and films when I was a kid that seemed to a polite way to say 'bullshit'. Now this thread seems to be telling me that there is no such word as 'baloney', just 'bologna' pronounced very weirdly, but it doesn't mean the Italian city or bolognaise sauce, it means...?

it's a kind of cured pork and beef sausage -- also called polony and (in parts of australia) "fitz"

Well, I'm shockingly old to learn that