Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

Meanwhile Yglesias is SURPRISED that some of the people in the White House were actually ACTING like they were trying to steal an election.

WTF did he think they were doing?

This reveals a more serious level of real planning for a seizure of power than I’d guessed was happening. pic.twitter.com/k9o0pxl8v8

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) August 1, 2023

(I know, dunking on Yglesias should be confined to the Yglesias thread. My bad.)

I was always a big fan of Bethany beach.

I think the part about this that various people are reacting to is that they were planning to use the military to enforce the overturned election.

Andy the Grasshopper at 6:10 1 Aug 23

As a west coaster, Rehoboth Beach sounds very Lovecraftian to me

I spent a few summers down in those parts, it was nice.

(well, weeks spread out among a few summers)

Also: I feel like the revelation of these goons wanting to use the military isn’t that surprising. Fascists are fascist.

The more surprising thing was how resistant the military was to it. At least the senior leadership. Not the kind of thing I take for granted. But of course, Trump spent his entire term trashing them, so they probably weren’t feeling very coup-y.

you have to lay the groundwork for this sort of thing you cant just call up the army last minute all like what are you doing right now, the police wouldve been a better choice anyway

extremely poor plan altogether, staging a coup was a tall order anyway, stealing an election on the other hand is doable under the right circumstances, i wouldve focused on that

I was thinking of Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre and how it took him so many tries to find someone who’d fire the prosecutor

Trump ended up with a parallel problem, fired any guy who showed a spine at any point at all. Can’t really coup when everyone in your circle is either spineless or a pure opportunist. Or Pence. Pence was just there because he wanted to be VP despite having the least swag since Dan Quayle

It was all very half-assed, like everything Trump does. Coup on the cheap. Good point about the cops, that's definitely more his base than the military (or at least than the senior military, there's inevitably fascists in the ranks).

good (LONG) breakdown thread here
if you are into other ppl reading long legal indictments for u like I very much am

lemme see what we got.

— fooler initiative (@metroadlib) August 1, 2023

“Rehoboth/Dewey has been one of my family's go-to family gathering spots for decades, it's nice in a classic Atlantic Seaboard way.”

It’s wonderful. I’ve been there a bunch and spent a long, mellow weekend in Dewey back in April. For people in this area it’s kind of the chilled out version of Ocean City, Maryland.

Is this where we're talking about this?

Okay Rehoboth is gays and lesbians (per my daughter at 13: "yay! SO gay!") plus families with kids. Dewey is 20somethings who drink beer. Bethany is families with kids. Ocean City is basically nonstop Spring Break.

I have a few thoughts about Cape May and northward, and Virginia Beach and southward, but I will hold those in reserve for now.

I mean if we’re going to have this conversation, I submit that most beachy locales in the mid-Atlantic are kind of disgusting, and that good beaches only begin Virginia Beach and south and Connecticut and north.

I am in Bethany Beach right now with my wife's family. We have visited here every year for the last 15 years. It's nice and quiet if a bit crowded on the weekend. Only thing I dislike is the drive to/from Long Island.

The sweet corn this year is amazing, fyi.

I mean if we’re going to have this conversation, I submit that most beachy locales in the mid-Atlantic are kind of disgusting, and that good beaches only begin Virginia Beach and south and Connecticut and north.

Basically, Delaware beaches rule, New Jersey beaches drool. Though per table, I don't really like most mid Atlantic beaches that much, at least not for actual beach stuff like going in the water. Up north it gets pretty, down south it gets warm, but all said and done I'd rather be in Michigan.

The sweet corn this year is amazing, fyi.

― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, August 2, 2023 8:05 AM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is the kind of reportage i appreciate, i went to the cape this year, first time in a while i had a proper east coast beach vacation, went wild on some sea food, harvested my own oysters

never been to a mid atlantic beach, closest is the jersey shore, a hilarious place

I have deeply considered this most recent run of posts but I’m sorry I still find Donald Trump to be a Dud.

never been to a mid atlantic beach, closest is the jersey shore, a hilarious place

― lag∞n,

https://i.imgur.com/hRPfwBC.jpg

ayye dis fuckin guy

the level of italian americaning happening on the jersey shore is unbelievable, the media does not exaggerate, even in the scenic non party towns, i wish people from colorado etc could go there just to appreciate ethnic white culture

Is this the right thread to ask about how a person might pronounce “LIRR”?

you just say the letters individually

East Coast beaches do not seem like beaches (as I know them).

i grew up spending every summer camping on beaches from Baja to Big Sur and now for the last 20 years Cape Cod and down to the Outer Banks. There's so much to enjoy in all those places for different reasons.

East Coast beaches do not seem like beaches (as I know them).

how so?

East Coast beaches are nice if you are able to temper your expectations about what a beach is supposed to be

They seem like national parks or nature preserves or amusement parks, but I haven't been to many. The sand doesn't seem as fine-grained, and the waves and the water are different. That is not to say that any kind of beach is better or worse.

Conversely, growing up on East Coast beaches I find West Coast beaches all weird and cold and dramatic. East Coast beaches are warm and you can just wade into the surf without being knocked down, they're mostly very friendly.

yeah west coast beaches arent as much about going in the water which is too bad cause i like going in the water

West coast beaches have cool dead stuff on them

Donaldlo Troomps is a dud

Maybe there needs to be "Beach, please" thread where we all get to uncloak our takes on intersections betwixt sea and sand. Personally I have said what I wish to say and I am tired.

Also Trump blows dead bears, so there's that.

(I think it's just that everyone is nervous and waiting.)

the mediterranean is in many ways the best overall body of water but the beaches get a deduction for rockiness

When I was a kid and learning to swim, I took lessons out at the local lake. It was one of those two week boot camp style things. Anyway, on the last day we were supposed to have a swimming test at the beach, and I walked two blocks down and about a hundred yards beyond the swim area there was a boat going around in a circle with no one at the helm. Apparently, whoever had been at the helm somehow fell overboard and the boat boomeranged back around and went over him and he died instantly. So his body was floating out there with the boat kind of circling around it and I guess sometimes over it, and the authorities had yet to arrive to stop it. So I never did have that last swim lesson. Never went in the water there again. It wasn't a very nice beach anyway. For Midwest beaches I always preferred the ones I'd go swimming in while vacationing in minnesota.

Where in Minnesota did you go?

holy shit, i'm sorry you witnessed that

I went up to a couple lakes all the way by Ely, white iron lake and garden lake. vv nice spots.

It was pretty messed up but unless I totally blocked it out I don't recall seeing anything particularly grisly. It's one of those memories I forget but then something sparks it.

you just say the letters individually

Nope. It's pronounced "L-I-double-R." Even TV newscasters say it like that.

ive never heard anyone say that but i didnt watch the local news much when i lived in new york

it does sound like something long islanders would say tho tbf

actually you know what i just repeated both to myself in a long island accent and just saying the letters was better

tbf people in new york dont talk about the el eye are are that much but sometimes they do it stopped close to my place i took it at least once

Is this the right thread to ask about how a person might pronounce “LIRR”?

― a love song for connor wong (gyac), Wednesday, August 2, 2023 6:08 AM

I lived in NYC for ~10 years and honestly think I've only ever hear it pronounced as "the train"

Sorry to derail back to the indictment but VG that was a good Twitter thread.

The indictment itself is damning and sickening in how brainwashed and culty the inner circle was. For example, Co-Conspirator 4, a DOJ official who tried to "fire" his supervisor for not permitting a letter to go out to "contested states" on DOJ letterhead etc.

Sadlol at Paragraph 26, quoting one 45 campaign emailing another:

26. . . . As early as mid-November, for instance, the Senior Campaign Advisor had informed the Defendant that his claims of a large number of dead voters in Georgia were untrue. With respect to the persistent false claim regarding State Farm Arena, on December 8, the Senior Campaign Advisor wrote in an email, When our research and campaign legal team can't back up any of the claims made by our Elite Strike Force Legal Team, you can see why we're 0-32 on our cases. I'll obviously hustle to help on all fronts, but it's tough to own any of this when it's all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership.