Dr said at that level, it’s really only ozempic or insulin.
When I was first diagnosed, my A1C was crazy high (13). I did insulin & metformin for a few months until it was back under control, and then my dr switched me to Jardiance & metformin.
If you go on insulin, it may only be temporary if you respond well to it.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 10 August 2023 03:57 (one year ago) link
Welp, last night my bf had a really bad hypo attack. Its weird - he's never had one before, often been cheeky with not eating/having booze, never any repercussions. His fingerprick test dropped from 3 to 2 despite chowing on lollies and sugar water, he was a shaky sweaty delirious mess. Anyway we couldnt get it to get better. Ambulance came, they couldnt either, so they have taken him to hospital. I couldnt go with cos the kids are here today, but fuckn yay. I am hoping he'll be ok I havent heard from him yet.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 11 August 2023 00:39 (one year ago) link
My dad (who was Type 1) used to chug orange juice when he had an attack like that.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 11 August 2023 00:42 (one year ago) link
yeah the irony is due to us both being beetusy, all the drinks in the house are sugar free lol. The ambos said thats a common thing when they attend hypos.
But I tried everything else my limited knowledge knew - cups of sugar water, a handful of glucose gummy bears, a bit of bread. It was weird it didnt budge the numbers one bit. Now I'm worried.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 11 August 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link
shit trayce - sending good thoughts, that’s so scary!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 August 2023 00:46 (one year ago) link
...I spoke too soon he just txted me, his bloods have bounced back now (too far the other way haha, stands to reason with what we did).
No more drinking sessions on empty tummies!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 11 August 2023 00:48 (one year ago) link
My sister deals with the same thing quite often - I really worry about her passing out while she’s alone. But she also has Graves’ disease which complicates things. Is your bf on insulin or something else?
I messaged my sis to tell her about my diagnosis and that I was getting on ozempic and she had never heard of it - odd, because she’s been diabetic since age 12 AND she’s a big fan of the kardashians. I explained what it was and that it was either that or insulin and she was like “avoid insulin at all costs”.
Anyway I spoke with my PA today and she went to bat for me and got ozempic approved with my insurer.
― just1n3, Friday, 11 August 2023 01:14 (one year ago) link
Thats good news J I hope it will work well for you!
B ended up being overnight in hospo but is better now aside from a cold it seems he picked up while in there.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 13 August 2023 09:26 (one year ago) link
can recommend this as a good pasta option if like me you fucking DESPISE all the chickpea/lentil/nonsense pastashttps://www.aldentepasta.com/shop/carba-nada.htmleats very close to normal pasta, if slightly firmer & you can eat a pretty decent helping of it24g net carbs, 16g protein - semolina flour, egg yolks, wheat protein etc readily available here in Sac at at least two large grocery chains
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 August 2023 04:08 (one year ago) link
terrible name though lol ugh
I saw yr FB post about it hehe. I thought we were ok to eat pasta in modest quantities as long as balanced with aprotein? I thought rice was the no no.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 14 August 2023 04:54 (one year ago) link
Actually looking at its ingredients I think thats precisely why it works! It seems to have boosted protein :)
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 14 August 2023 04:55 (one year ago) link
Lol veg, ignore my Instagram comment, now I’ve seen the answer!
― just1n3, Monday, 14 August 2023 06:20 (one year ago) link
Rice and beans/lentils form a complete protein iirc?
― just1n3, Monday, 14 August 2023 06:21 (one year ago) link
Yeah when I do have rice I make sure its basmati and i eat it with chickpeas, lentils, eggs, tofu or chicken anyway.
I used to eat PILES of rice though. I'm training myself to go "a couple of spoonfuls is ENOUGH dammit".
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 14 August 2023 07:05 (one year ago) link
Xp to veg, re depression symptoms:
So for about the 3.5yrs I’ve been feeling like I have what I call “benign depression” - like, emotionally I feel fine but my body is just so tired and mentally I’ve felt sort of shut down, like I can’t engage with anything too thoughtful or deep. Until I moved to chicago, I spent literally all my time in bed, unless I had to go to work. Sitting on the couch was too taxing. Things improved after moving (I move from bed to couch at night, I go grocery shopping, I go out on the weekends) but the fatigue is still there, I just feel a bit more motivated to push through it. But dr thinks it might be diabetes causing it. I hope that’s the case because I’ve been putting off having to mess with my psych meds again (a super slooooow and frustrating process).
― just1n3, Monday, 14 August 2023 23:12 (one year ago) link
oh ok that’s interesting!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 August 2023 23:22 (one year ago) link
Trayce;
I saw a thing online yesterday that might make you happy - when you cook and then cool rice, it creates resistant starch, which lowers its glycemic index quite significantly. So if you want to keep enjoying rice, just cook it the day before you want to eat it! (You can reheat it, it doesn’t reverse the process). Apparently this also goes for potatoes and some other starches I can’t remember.
― just1n3, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link
I started ozempic a week ago. No side effects at this dose. It really does switch off the food noise in your head. I have a terrible addiction to sweet drinks and I was really stressed about the process of quitting but I was immediately able to cut down to half a can of coke a day (that’s mostly for the headache I get every day from quitting the caffeine in coke).
― just1n3, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link
Look for some sugar-free iced tea if you can:
https://assets.shop.loblaws.ca/products/20324399/b1/en/side/20324399_side_a06.png
That's Canadian, but you might be able to get something similar. No sugar, no carbohydrates, no calories.
That's great about the rice--will try that.
― clemenza, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:33 (one year ago) link
(Oops--the photo is of the regular, not the sugar-free.)
― clemenza, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link
x-post
The cooling / reheating rice thing also works for dried pasta, fwiw. For both, you'll obvs get the best effects the more you rinse and drain the excess starches.
Usually stick to ILM and didn't realize there was a Diabetes thread on here.
Tried Ozempic not long after it hit the market-- I have a cousin who's pretty high-up at Novo Nordisk. Attempted to titrate up to the minimum therapeutic dose, but I ended up doing only 50% of that dose every other week-- so, essentially, 1/4 of what was the established clinical minimum effective dose-- and it made me so violently ill and nauseous that I contacted my Endo to discontinue after 8 weeks. Dropped 14 lbs, and my blood sugar was never over 110.
So, it *worked*, but the cost to quality of life and overall health did not make it worth it for me. Godspeed to folks who can tolerate it well, though.
― jon_oh, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link
I drink SO MUCH unsweetened iced tea. Pure Leaf is my favorite but Gold Peak is pretty good too.
― read-only (unperson), Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link
I’m not American so the cold tea thing is unpalatable to me. I love sweet and milky English breakfast in winter but I use Lakanto for that because it tastes exactly like real sugar - I absolutely hate the taste of artificial sweeteners and stevia.
― just1n3, Saturday, 26 August 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link
many x-posts
I didn't really like brown rice either, but I found that cooking it in an instapot pressure cooker (rather than my regular rice cooker) significantly improved the taste. YMMV obv.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link
B-b-but what about cauliflower rice?
― The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:37 (one year ago) link
it’s good but i think i’d rather just eat chunks of cauliflower
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 26 August 2023 22:48 (one year ago) link
Justine I'm so glad the ozempic's been ok for you so far!I'm still on the 0.25 dose and my guts seem to be settling down. Wether that's because I'm intentionally cautious with portion control now I'm not sure. My sugars arent quite as under control as I'd like but I'm speaking to the diabetes clinic again on tuesday and they might just tell me to up the metformin (I'm only taking 1000mg)
Yes I'd read about the cooled carbs/resistant starch thing too! As it happens I often eat rice after its been cooked and fridged anyway, so thats good. I guess I could try Doongara rice too but I do like basmati the most.
B is fine now after his weird hypo incident and we really dont know why that happened. I mean the cause was there (booze after no food all day) but hes done that before to no ill effect? OH well. Bodies , hey.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 27 August 2023 00:25 (one year ago) link
glad he’s ok Trayce - scary thing to happen!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 27 August 2023 00:32 (one year ago) link
Oh! BTW after your pasta find upthread Veg I went looking and found we have one here too:
https://cdn0.woolworths.media/content/wowproductimages/medium/117547.jpg
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 27 August 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link
oh good!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 27 August 2023 00:51 (one year ago) link
Diabetes humor!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsMqZFvvIxQ
― read-only (unperson), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 00:23 (one year ago) link
I bought some Chapman's no-sugar-added ice cream:
https://voila.ca/images-v3/2d92d19c-0354-49c0-8a91-5260ed0bf531/6bb107e2-bd28-4504-9777-4bcf884302c5/500x500.jpg
Does that seem reasonable for someone with Type II (and levels that seem to be stable in the 5.5-6.0 range)?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 01:55 (one year ago) link
seems like it would be ok! caveat: as long as sugar alcohol doesn’t have an adverse effect on your digestion i generally avoid myself as they reliably give me anything from bloating/cramps to full on diarrhea
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 02:43 (one year ago) link
My problem with all the sugarfree/low fat snacks is they all use gross shit like sorbitol or stevia and idc what anyone says I can TELL. I dont like the taste :(
Even monkfruit sugar has a bit of a funny aftertaste.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 05:01 (one year ago) link
yeah samethe only one i can handle (in small amounts) is erythritol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 05:20 (one year ago) link
Yeah I think thats the monkfruit one. I can do a flat spoonful in a cuppa thats about it. A good thing anyway, that shiz is pricey!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 06:58 (one year ago) link
I think maybe I have PTSD from my highschool best friend whose family all guzzled old-school diet coke and ate nothing but nugs.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 06:59 (one year ago) link
I’m supposed to be testing my fasting blood sugar every morning but the first time I did it, it was 273dl/mg which didn’t seem right, but my monitor didn’t come with any control solution so I couldn’t be sure. The solution finally arrived, the monitor is apparently working correctly, so I tested today and it was 274 :/
― just1n3, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 07:44 (one year ago) link
Yeah thats quite high :( dont worry, it can go up cos of stress, cos of starchy food... and the meds will take a while, it took me like at least 3 weeks on the metformin.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 10:07 (one year ago) link
yeah trayce otm - it’s scary at first bc the numbers feel like a judgement or some kind of failure etc but try to remember they’re only data points for a moment in tume, you’re starting to do the things that are needed to help get your #’s down but it can take time. chin up, keep at it
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link
Yeah I guess I knew it would still be high but my diet has been so drastically different the last 3 weeks I thought it wouldn’t be *that* high.
When I googled the number the results were like “that is super bad” but lol I feel the same as I always feel, which is “normal” at this point.
― just1n3, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link
I don't know what that 274 number means...the only one I understand is the finger-prick number.
I tried the ice cream last night--thought it was quite good. I just have to discipline myself to stop after seven or eight spoonfuls.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 16:20 (one year ago) link
it's the same test, divide the reading in mg/dl by 18 to convert to mmol/L
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 August 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link
Meaning 274 = 15.2 for a finger-prick?
― clemenza, Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:56 (one year ago) link
for a blood sugar measurement, yeah
― k3vin k., Thursday, 31 August 2023 02:25 (one year ago) link
Best home-reading in a month, 5.3. I've cheated here and there...these things are very unpredictable.
― clemenza, Friday, 1 September 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link
Past couple days I've felt a little "off" at various points during the day (particularly the morning), and my natural assumption for these situations now is "huh I bet my sugar's low." But then I tested (finger-prick) and it was just fine, so maybe I'm just coming down with a bug.
The instinct to immediately assume every little thing is diabetes-related is something I'm still learning to navigate.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Friday, 1 September 2023 01:58 (one year ago) link
yeah same, the added complications of pms & perimenopause blood sugar spikes & hot flashes & shit is like, ok it could literally be ANYTHING
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 September 2023 02:13 (one year ago) link
Danish pharma giant Novo Nordisk, who commercializes Wegovy / Ozempic in the US, has reached 300B on the stock exchange, relatively close to the national GDP (380B). The pharmaceutical sector contributes to a third of Denmark's GDP, pushing up the balance of payments and the value of the Danish Krone compared to the euro, thus forcing their central bank to a range of actions to avoid currency inflation. Some commentators are making comparisons to Finland's Nokia in terms of structural importance and impact of hypothetical downfall.
― Nabozo, Friday, 1 September 2023 08:10 (one year ago) link